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nicechrisman
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Re: Ayahuasca or peyote? [Re: Heisenburn]
#19039496 - 10/27/13 06:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well they are very different types of teachers who will teach different things. Hard to give advice on such a thing. I would do as much research as you can about these plants and their active ingredients, read a lot of trip reports, and figure it out on your own.
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Heisenburn
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Yeah ok
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openmind
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Re: Ayahuasca or peyote? [Re: Heisenburn]
#19041132 - 10/27/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Eywa_devotee said: Why not just take a hit of DMT that lasts only 15 minutes or so before jumping into a 8-36 hour commitment with aya or peyote respectively. If you can get peyote, you should do so and save it for a rainy day, as that't pretty hard to find.
I would do DMT if it weren't a crystal chemical
What do you mean you won't do dmt because it's a "crystal chemical" ?
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Re: Ayahuasca or peyote? [Re: openmind]
#19041213 - 10/27/13 02:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: Well they are very different types of teachers who will teach different things. Hard to give advice on such a thing. I would do as much research as you can about these plants and their active ingredients, read a lot of trip reports, and figure it out on your own.
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Heisenburn said:
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Eywa_devotee said: Why not just take a hit of DMT that lasts only 15 minutes or so before jumping into a 8-36 hour commitment with aya or peyote respectively. If you can get peyote, you should do so and save it for a rainy day, as that't pretty hard to find.
I would do DMT if it weren't a crystal chemical
What do you mean you won't do dmt because it's a "crystal chemical" ?
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I agree nicechris
and yea what you talking about heisenburn lol
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modern.shaman
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Eat the peyote raw as you will lose many of the other alkaloids when extracting. Mescaline is not the only active ingredient in peyote and eating raw is the only way to take peyote. You can save on peyote and take pedro/bridgesii/torch with a few buttons rather than just peyote on its own.
EDIT: I fucked on the posting was meant for another thread. I THINK
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MagicalOrangutan
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Modern shaman, is peyote really as visual as the cartoon in your sig implies? Lol
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modern.shaman
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I believe it is but I've yet to try it; maybe in a year or two I may try it.
Even high mescaline dose will be very visual. My field of view changed to a single hue and also saw rainbow/hologram at certain times on 18+ inches of non-pc pedro.
Something I will like to try in the future is Ayahuasca AND Peyote/Cactus. These are said to be a great combo. Ayahuasca is Grandmother and Peyote is Grandfather. You take Peyote/Cactus first due to the long come up then drink the Ayahuasca afterwords. It would be a crazy journey and very visual together.
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nicechrisman
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I had a dream about peyote last night. This thread just reminded me
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ShroomDoom
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MagicalOrangutan said: Modern shaman, is peyote really as visual as the cartoon in your sig implies? Lol
You have to ingest quite a bit for it to get as visual as a high dose mushroom/aya experience. Im talking 8 fist sized adult buttons at least. Maybe 14-16 of the silver-dollar sized ones. I've had some powder from mexico that I sat and ate with a Huichole medicine man on the solstice last year. Could see intricate patterns of geometric lattices and grids that would undulate and change form whenever he sang. I had my eyes closed for a lot of the experience and kind of zoned out into a trance. With my eyes open things were pretty much recognizable except the fire was super bright and shot off tiny streaks of rainbow-colored beams as it flickered.
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Re: Ayahuasca or peyote? [Re: ShroomDoom]
#19050292 - 10/29/13 03:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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OP, I think ayahuasca is best taken in a ceremony, not at home having no idea at all what to do. The awesome stories you hear are usually about ceremonies, not people just taking it at home.
In your place I'd take the Peyote first, then consider ayahuasca. With the Peyote, see if you can get informed about the way natives take it. The drums, the chanting, whatever they do sound-wise to go with it. No need to copy but at least get an idea of that. Much of it is in fact Peyote-inspired so it goes well with it.
Also to get a bit enthusiastic about the visuals of the mescaline, view some Huichol and Tepehuano art. Should give you an idea of what to expect 
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For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it. - Matthew 13:16
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Kiya_Star427
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modern.shaman said: Eat the peyote raw as you will lose many of the other alkaloids when extracting. Mescaline is not the only active ingredient in peyote and eating raw is the only way to take peyote. You can save on peyote and take pedro/bridgesii/torch with a few buttons rather than just peyote on its own.
EDIT: I fucked on the posting was meant for another thread. I THINK 
how do you eat it raw? just take off the spikes, and use a potato peeler to take off the skin then eat it?
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ShroomDoom
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Kiya_Star427 said:
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modern.shaman said: Eat the peyote raw as you will lose many of the other alkaloids when extracting. Mescaline is not the only active ingredient in peyote and eating raw is the only way to take peyote. You can save on peyote and take pedro/bridgesii/torch with a few buttons rather than just peyote on its own.
EDIT: I fucked on the posting was meant for another thread. I THINK 
how do you eat it raw? just take off the spikes, and use a potato peeler to take off the skin then eat it?
Peyote doesn't have spikes it has tufts of hair. You pick out the hairs and just chew it as is. Some people eat it with the hairs and all. Many people dry it and crush it into a powder then consume it raw that way. You can also puree fresh buttons in a blender and make "Holy Guacamole" .
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Re: Ayahuasca or peyote? [Re: ShroomDoom]
#19051055 - 10/29/13 09:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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drink the aya first and once the hard ass peak has settles a bit, then take the mescaline. just did myself saturday night and had soooooo many revelations and really achieved a supernatural type of motivation that hasnt left me yet. but be safe please. i do have lots of experience with psyches but if your meddlings around with aya and mesc then your on my level as well i would assume. just be safe and most importantly remember its all about YOUR SETTING!!!
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