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Offline245willow19

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Why nice guys can't get girls/laid?
    #19041485 - 10/27/13 04:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I've been called a nice guy and some girls don't dig that and the ones who do dig it, form a weird obessession with me and continously call/text me and I just play along, lest I break their heart or offend them somehow :sad:. It frustrating, I feel like a 15 year old kid. I hate being nice, I say racist jokes now and then to break the ice, but generally, I give hugs and become more of a brother than a friend. What do you think I am doing wrong? Any advice? I've gotten laid...but was it out of pity or obessession?

I am reassuring and make people comfort and feel good about themselves. I guess I know how to be that 'brother' or special friend.

I want to marry this foreign girl over in a third world country, but because of the language barrier and cultural issues and my dry humour and also my family won't be too happy with it for obvious reasons.

Anyway, why do you think nice guys can't get girls/laid? The nice guys I know never get laid/girls and end up depressed and/or attempt suicide. It's sad.


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Re: Why do you think nice guys can't get girls/laid [Re: 245willow19] * 4
    #19041494 - 10/27/13 04:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Nice guys should get laid because they finish last
don't girls like it when you last the longest?


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Re: Why do you think nice guys can't get girls/laid [Re: dontknow]
    #19041505 - 10/27/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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dontknow said:
Nice guys should get laid because they finish last
don't girls like it when you last the longest?



I do last longer than most. I actually thought that was a bad thang :grin:


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Re: Why do you think nice guys can't get girls/laid [Re: 245willow19] * 7
    #19041509 - 10/27/13 04:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm nice and I get laid all the time

theres a difference between being kind and being spineless


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Re: Why do you think nice guys can't get girls/laid [Re: NWlight]
    #19041516 - 10/27/13 04:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm nice and I get laid all the time

theres a difference between being kind and being spineless



Go on...

I can get laid, no doubt about that, it's just I hate being forceful, though, girls like that. They want lads to make the first move...I guess I am too much of a skinny ass pathetic gentleman


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Re: Why do you think nice guys can't get girls/laid [Re: 245willow19] * 5
    #19041523 - 10/27/13 04:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Treat em like a princess

fuck em like a slut


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Re: Why do you think nice guys can't get girls/laid [Re: 245willow19] * 3
    #19041524 - 10/27/13 04:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Women go for the alpha male. You'll see this in every animal species. Denying this trait is denying the very thing that makes us animal. Its all pre programmed instinct to seek out the strongest and bread making super babys you won't take shit and keep the gene pool going.

You can be an alpha male without being a dick. Just don't take anyones shit.

If you act spineless women will sense this and pay no attention because well, a spineless guy might as well have a pussy.


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Re: Why do you think nice guys can't get girls/laid [Re: Mescalean] * 5
    #19041527 - 10/27/13 04:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Confidence + not taking shit + taking pride in your appearance. Dress well and work out.


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Re: Why do you think nice guys can't get girls/laid [Re: Mescalean] * 4
    #19041541 - 10/27/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:gombypls:

Didnt OP scream out random shroomery members names when banging some junkie cop in the WC?


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Re: Why do you think nice guys can't get girls/laid [Re: NWlight]
    #19041544 - 10/27/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

NWlight said:
Treat em like a princess

fuck em like a slut



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Re: Why do you think nice guys can't get girls/laid [Re: psyconaught]
    #19041551 - 10/27/13 04:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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trekie said:
:gombypls:

Didnt OP scream out random shroomery members names when banging some junkie cop in the WC?




Lol what?


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Re: Why do you think nice guys can't get girls/laid [Re: Mescalean]
    #19041557 - 10/27/13 04:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

if you realize nice guys cant get laid, the pussy was made long ago


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Re: Why do you think nice guys can't get girls/laid [Re: trekie]
    #19041560 - 10/27/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

trekie said:
:gombypls:

Didnt OP scream out random shroomery members names when banging some junkie cop in the WC?




That was a foreign student...she fucking awesome...still friends with her and said she will return next year for round 2 but made me promised not to shout out random shit like 'sheekle' and 'shlong' :lol:. It was very funny


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Re: Why do you think nice guys can't get girls/laid [Re: 245willow19] * 2
    #19041565 - 10/27/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Nice guys don't finish last, lame guys finish last. A lot of times "nice guys" get this mixed up.


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Re: Why do you think nice guys can't get girls/laid [Re: 245willow19] * 1
    #19041584 - 10/27/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

What I don't get is if you notive nice guys get laid less often then change and quit white knighting.

Hear this though, coming from a "dick", its easy to get random tail. But it is much harder to act right when you do find the right girl. I'm figuring this out now. Now I'm trying to be nice.


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Re: Why do you think nice guys can't get girls/laid [Re: Mescalean]
    #19041600 - 10/27/13 04:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Im figuring out all this shit now. I think being assertive is important. Sometimes nice guys like myself can be too passive.

This guy makes some points on this


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Re: Why do you think nice guys can't get girls/laid [Re: jewunit]
    #19041606 - 10/27/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

chicks always seek some guy that "can't" to be their confident/best friend.

reduce your ego that you need to be treated like the chick's best friend, or father, or even respected friend.

lay it on thick with tact; get it in there and make her scream.  don't downplay your abilities, be like a massive storm - rage when it is time and quiet when it is not.

and dun get heartbroken if/when it doesn't happen again.  GIVE GIVE GIVE like it's your job, or a chance to gain experience having an athletic sexual experience.  don't expect to be pampered or taken care of like a baby.

u know, like a really hot prostitute who needs a job.


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Re: Why do you think nice guys can't get girls/laid [Re: brokentv] * 1
    #19041614 - 10/27/13 04:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Acting sleazy or like a player will get you down a girls pants. But being genuine and caring will get you into their heart. Just the way it is.


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Re: Why do you think nice guys can't get girls/laid [Re: Global_Roaming]
    #19041619 - 10/27/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Acting sleazy or like a player will get you down a girls pants. But being genuine and caring will get you into their heart. Just the way it is.




This


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: 245willow19] * 2
    #19041713 - 10/27/13 05:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

theres a code...

when you first meet a chick you must follow this.

ass hole... nice... ass hole... ass hole... ass hole... nice... nice... ass hole... nice...

from then on its your choice.


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Re: Why do you think nice guys can't get girls/laid [Re: hidenseek1]
    #19041727 - 10/27/13 05:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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hidenseek1 said:
if you realize nice guys cant get laid, the pussy was made long ago



and here


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: Poor Boy]
    #19041733 - 10/27/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If you want a variety of pussy dont be a white knight fgt. this reminds her of her brother. Most girls dont fuck their brother. Most..


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: NWlight]
    #19041735 - 10/27/13 05:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: HermitCrabsOnE]
    #19041990 - 10/27/13 06:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

All you have to do is distance yourself and then she'll show interest. Just don't overdue it. Don't be a dick just tell her you have shit on your mind. Easy lay, bro.


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: 245willow19]
    #19042121 - 10/27/13 06:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I am a nice guy, and I don't get laid, I don't think that's the main reason I don't get laid though.

I don't get laid because I'm a bitch when it comes to interacting with members of the opposite sex, because I'm like a 2.5/10, and because I don't get out often enough.


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19042128 - 10/27/13 06:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

it takes a balance between being assertive and compassionate.


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19042142 - 10/27/13 06:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Buy the ladies some beer goggles, ladies love beer goggles


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: dontknow]
    #19042153 - 10/27/13 07:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Buy the ladies some beer goggles, ladies love beer goggles



i prefer tequila goggles


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: psyconaught]
    #19042212 - 10/27/13 07:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

eat celery.  pheromones for daysss


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: King Klick]
    #19042225 - 10/27/13 07:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Esekon Kelly said:
Anyway, why do you think nice guys can't get girls/laid?




Quote:

Mescalean said:
Women go for the alpha male. You'll see this in every animal species. Denying this trait is denying the very thing that makes us animal. Its all pre programmed instinct to seek out the strongest and bread making super babys you won't take shit and keep the gene pool going.

You can be an alpha male without being a dick. Just don't take anyones shit.




^^ This
The problem with nice guys is they're too nice. When a 'nice guy' meets an attractive girl for the first time; they'll treat her like a princess, buy her drinks and ask her about what she does for a living ect. This is all very needy behavior.
You've identified that you're not getting sex, so stop being like it and try something else and see if you get better results that way.
The reason all that behaviour is needy is because when you first meet a person, in this case an attractive woman you shouldn't be buying her stuff. Let me put it this way, if you're buying things for strangers, i'll come meet you, and you cn buy me a car. People don't buy things for strangers unless they're trying to get something. It's sneaky and in this case the 'nice guy' is bribing her for her time. Woman are repelled by this behavior, but won't deny the offer because it gives her something for free, plus an ego boost.
'Nice guys' also usually jump straight into talking about meaningful things; such as "so what do you do for a living?". When two people are strangers they don't give a damn what the other person does unless it can affect them in some way. Same goes for other meaningful subjects, like how many siblings they have ect. Strangers don't care! The correct way to talk to a stranger, especially if she's a beautiful woman, is to talk about shit that doesn't matter. Tease them, or play dumb games like 'fuck, marry, kill' (I play that one, it's good).

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Global_Roaming said:
Acting sleazy or like a player will get you down a girls pants. But being genuine and caring will get you into their heart. Just the way it is.




^^ What this guy has said actually is quite true. You don't want to get into the heart of a stranger, because that's how you get friend zoned. The key is to do what i told you above, and then only once you've talked shit for a while, move onto talking about meaningful things. This is because she's no longer a stranger. You'll know when the time is right to move onto talking about meaningful things, by her saying something that actually means something.

And that's the main reasons 'nice guys' can't get a woman to sleep with them.


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: Magenta]
    #19042245 - 10/27/13 07:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

its possible to get in a girls heart without being genuine.


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: Magenta]
    #19042560 - 10/27/13 08:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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knightron said:
Quote:

Esekon Kelly said:
Anyway, why do you think nice guys can't get girls/laid?




Quote:

Mescalean said:
Women go for the alpha male. You'll see this in every animal species. Denying this trait is denying the very thing that makes us animal. Its all pre programmed instinct to seek out the strongest and bread making super babys you won't take shit and keep the gene pool going.

You can be an alpha male without being a dick. Just don't take anyones shit.




^^ This
The problem with nice guys is they're too nice. When a 'nice guy' meets an attractive girl for the first time; they'll treat her like a princess, buy her drinks and ask her about what she does for a living ect. This is all very needy behavior.
You've identified that you're not getting sex, so stop being like it and try something else and see if you get better results that way.
The reason all that behaviour is needy is because when you first meet a person, in this case an attractive woman you shouldn't be buying her stuff. Let me put it this way, if you're buying things for strangers, i'll come meet you, and you cn buy me a car. People don't buy things for strangers unless they're trying to get something. It's sneaky and in this case the 'nice guy' is bribing her for her time. Woman are repelled by this behavior, but won't deny the offer because it gives her something for free, plus an ego boost.
'Nice guys' also usually jump straight into talking about meaningful things; such as "so what do you do for a living?". When two people are strangers they don't give a damn what the other person does unless it can affect them in some way. Same goes for other meaningful subjects, like how many siblings they have ect. Strangers don't care! The correct way to talk to a stranger, especially if she's a beautiful woman, is to talk about shit that doesn't matter. Tease them, or play dumb games like 'fuck, marry, kill' (I play that one, it's good).

Quote:

Global_Roaming said:
Acting sleazy or like a player will get you down a girls pants. But being genuine and caring will get you into their heart. Just the way it is.




^^ What this guy has said actually is quite true. You don't want to get into the heart of a stranger, because that's how you get friend zoned. The key is to do what i told you above, and then only once you've talked shit for a while, move onto talking about meaningful things. This is because she's no longer a stranger. You'll know when the time is right to move onto talking about meaningful things, by her saying something that actually means something.

And that's the main reasons 'nice guys' can't get a woman to sleep with them.




^ dude this, this right here. I could not have put in any better. Im rating you man nice explenation.


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: Mescalean] * 2
    #19042604 - 10/27/13 08:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

fuck this topic. fuck nice guys. fuck bitches and sluts. fuck assholes. fuck everyone and our need to consume each other like some commodity. angling and gaming, scheming little shits.

corporeal impulses, fucking like dirt and blood clay. self esteem derived from the validation of strangers. just drop the fucking nukes already

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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: Mescalean]
    #19042614 - 10/27/13 08:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

man i thought it was all about who was either going to give them the most money, or who was gonna make they cum the hardest.

distancing yourself isnt going to do either of those things!!!!!!

buying her stuff could creep her out and keep you in the friend zone if you dun play it right, but...

if you treat her like a goddess and get all "oh god ur my angel, ur like the cutest girl i've ever seen in my life" she will AT LEAST remember you and tell all her friends about you.  and if u fill all awkward silences with "u look so sexy right now" and "god i wonder what u look like when u wake up" and blah blah blah, u could get in there easy unless she's a bitch!!!  jus dun overdo it, and make sure u have a spine so other guys dun wipe their ass with you.

iono about gettn in her heart.  jus make sure u both have the same goals or something so ur helpn each other instead of running in opposite directions.


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: stimpson]
    #19042621 - 10/27/13 08:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Nice guys need better drugs to release their inner animal


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #19042625 - 10/27/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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fuck this topic. fuck nice guys. fuck bitches and sluts. fuck assholes. fuck everyone and our need to consume each other like some commodity. angling and gaming, scheming little shits.

corporeal impulses, fucking like dirt and blood clay. self esteem derived from the validation of strangers. just drop the fucking nukes already

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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: stimpson]
    #19042627 - 10/27/13 08:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Women want things they can't have usually. So distancing and not acting like her "bff" will do more than befriending her.

Another thing women dig, drive. Get up and go type of attitude.


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: stimpson]
    #19042636 - 10/27/13 08:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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man i thought it was all about who was either going to give them the most money, or who was gonna make they cum the hardest.

distancing yourself isnt going to do either of those things!!!!!!

buying her stuff could creep her out and keep you in the friend zone if you dun play it right, but...

if you treat her like a goddess and get all "oh god ur my angel, ur like the cutest girl i've ever seen in my life" she will AT LEAST remember you and tell all her friends about you.  and if u fill all awkward silences with "u look so sexy right now" and "god i wonder what u look like when u wake up" and blah blah blah, u could get in there easy unless she's a bitch!!!  jus dun overdo it, and make sure u have a spine so other guys dun wipe their ass with you.

iono about gettn in her heart.  jus make sure u both have the same goals or something so ur helpn each other instead of running in opposite directions.




No, I know that comes off as ultra creepy, I have heard many females complaining about this exact thing.


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: Hobozen]
    #19042640 - 10/27/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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fuck this topic. fuck nice guys. fuck bitches and sluts. fuck assholes. fuck everyone and our need to consume each other like some commodity. angling and gaming, scheming little shits.

corporeal impulses, fucking like dirt and blood clay. self esteem derived from the validation of strangers. just drop the fucking nukes already

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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19042699 - 10/27/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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man i thought it was all about who was either going to give them the most money, or who was gonna make they cum the hardest.

distancing yourself isnt going to do either of those things!!!!!!

buying her stuff could creep her out and keep you in the friend zone if you dun play it right, but...

if you treat her like a goddess and get all "oh god ur my angel, ur like the cutest girl i've ever seen in my life" she will AT LEAST remember you and tell all her friends about you.  and if u fill all awkward silences with "u look so sexy right now" and "god i wonder what u look like when u wake up" and blah blah blah, u could get in there easy unless she's a bitch!!!  jus dun overdo it, and make sure u have a spine so other guys dun wipe their ass with you.

iono about gettn in her heart.  jus make sure u both have the same goals or something so ur helpn each other instead of running in opposite directions.




No, I know that comes off as ultra creepy, I have heard many females complaining about this exact thing.




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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: stimpson]
    #19043319 - 10/27/13 11:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Both of you eat LSD and fuck her psychically. Fer realz.


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
    #19043356 - 10/27/13 11:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It's easy, because until a girl is ready to settle down, she wants a badass, risk taking; story creatin' son of a gun!


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: thelanzii]
    #19044528 - 10/28/13 06:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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eat celery.  pheromones for daysss




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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #19044549 - 10/28/13 07:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Remember where we come from. It was only a 7 thousand years ago we were living in caves. Women were not shy about the fact that they wanted to see their men killing, dominating, plundering, and perhaps even raping women from other tribes. Civilization has only forced women to repress their natural urge to open their legs for the biggest, manliest, meanest dude in the pack IN THE OPEN. But I'd be willing to bet money there are not very many girls out there who haven't fantasized about being manhandled (read: raped) by some muscular, dark haired, blue eyed guy with blood running down his chest from his most recent kill.


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: morrowasted] * 6
    #19044649 - 10/28/13 08:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

"Ima nice guy" is always cover for "I have no idea what the fuck im doing"


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 2
    #19044706 - 10/28/13 08:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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"Ima nice guy" is always cover for "I have no idea what the fuck im doing"




I'm tired of this nice guy bullshit. Sorry bro, you're not a nice guy if you're just yrying to get into her pussy. You're just a loser.


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: 245willow19] * 4
    #19045334 - 10/28/13 09:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Nice guys do get laid. Sometimes we just have to wait a little longer in between. The benefits of being nice far outweigh any negative aspects of it. Just be yourself. Don't try to force yourself to be something you are not. Sex is not the most important thing in the universe. Kindness is much more important and rewarding in the long run.


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: morrowasted]
    #19046152 - 10/28/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Remember where we come from. It was only a 7 thousand years ago we were living in caves. Women were not shy about the fact that they wanted to see their men killing, dominating, plundering, and perhaps even raping women from other tribes. Civilization has only forced women to repress their natural urge to open their legs for the biggest, manliest, meanest dude in the pack IN THE OPEN. But I'd be willing to bet money there are not very many girls out there who haven't fantasized about being manhandled (read: raped) by some muscular, dark haired, blue eyed guy with blood running down his chest from his most recent kill.




This. They will call you an asshole out in public but behind closed doors let you fuck their brains out. Everywoman does seem to have some "gorilla fuck" fantasy.

Think about this too, back in the old days the biggest strongest mother fucker got the bitches why? He could protect them, and take whatever he wants. He could provide safety nourishment and gorilla fucks. People are animals. Take away all the bullshit "morality" thats been forced on people for centuries through religion and you have an extremely intelligent (some will argue the intelligence) monkey.

I was the firstborn child so I had no older brother to talk to me about girl. As soon as I hit the "friendzone" I looked at what I can do different. I looked at the guys who don't get pussy and observed, they never acted clingy or "omg ur so purty". They also worked out.

Out of all the things thats made a difference was putting on 40lbs of muscle. Even now my girlfriend of over a year says I'm the only guy she feels safe with and likes that I'm actually built like a man.


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: Mescalean]
    #19046198 - 10/28/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

These girls very well may think you are gay.

The reason, in my opinion, that girls don't usually fall for nice guys is because they seem boring to them. A guy taking risks and etc seems exciting and releases a natural attraction towards the guy as long as the consequences don't drown out the risk.

You don't treat the girl like an asshole but treat life like an asshole and that may be your ticket.

This being said, don't change who you are to get a girl, because that girl will be attracted to the changed you and you will have to fake that for a long time. Whether it be rare, wait it out.


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: Snotfish]
    #19046227 - 10/28/13 01:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Not giving a shit always worked for me.


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: Mescalean]
    #19046268 - 10/28/13 02:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Remember where we come from. It was only a 7 thousand years ago we were living in caves. Women were not shy about the fact that they wanted to see their men killing, dominating, plundering, and perhaps even raping women from other tribes. Civilization has only forced women to repress their natural urge to open their legs for the biggest, manliest, meanest dude in the pack IN THE OPEN. But I'd be willing to bet money there are not very many girls out there who haven't fantasized about being manhandled (read: raped) by some muscular, dark haired, blue eyed guy with blood running down his chest from his most recent kill.




This. They will call you an asshole out in public but behind closed doors let you fuck their brains out. Everywoman does seem to have some "gorilla fuck" fantasy.

Think about this too, back in the old days the biggest strongest mother fucker got the bitches why? He could protect them, and take whatever he wants. He could provide safety nourishment and gorilla fucks. People are animals. Take away all the bullshit "morality" thats been forced on people for centuries through religion and you have an extremely intelligent (some will argue the intelligence) monkey.

I was the firstborn child so I had no older brother to talk to me about girl. As soon as I hit the "friendzone" I looked at what I can do different. I looked at the guys who don't get pussy and observed, they never acted clingy or "omg ur so purty". They also worked out.

Out of all the things thats made a difference was putting on 40lbs of muscle. Even now my girlfriend of over a year says I'm the only guy she feels safe with and likes that I'm actually built like a man.



this cannot be stressed enough. Women like providers, back in the day it was the biggest strongest cave mother fucker. Now that has changed a bit to include rich people, providers in a different way. But women instinctually like a man who can toss her around and manhandle her. Every single girl i've talked about sexuality with has expressed some desire for a rape 'gorilla fuck' fantasy. My girlfriend is no exception, her favorite position is when she lays on her stomach and i shove her face into the pillow/bed and fuck her hard. A vast majority of women instinctually are attracted to this.


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: psyconaught]
    #19046275 - 10/28/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I really enjoy watching a bunch of guys psychoanalyze the entirety of the female population.


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Re: Why do you think nice guys can't get girls/laid [Re: NWlight]
    #19046290 - 10/28/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm nice and I get laid all the time

theres a difference between being kind and being spineless




This! But, it takes a very long time for some people to learn, and some really never do. Essentially, you treat a woman with respect and all ... not with deference. People don't want to be worshiped.


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: psyconaught]
    #19046293 - 10/28/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

My girl digs the same shit. Same "fuck me raw and muffle my scream" mentallity.

This girl was a virgin when she met me too. Kindest person you could meet always sticks up for the little guy. But has the gorilla fuck fantasy. She asked me to choke her a little the other night for the first time. So happy. Much wow.


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: jewunit]
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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: psyconaught]
    #19046298 - 10/28/13 02:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Did I say anyone was wrong?


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: 245willow19]
    #19046489 - 10/28/13 03:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It's all about human behavior. Nice guys don't get laid because they make themselves available to the woman they're after. Women, much like men, usually want what they cannot have, this is why they go after the player, alpha, whatever. If they could just get him tonight, maybe they could keep him, change him, and establish massive social value.

A study was done with a pidgeon.

The pidgeon would peck at a metal bar and receive a piece of food, but in different variations of the experiment the pidgeon would get the food at different rates.

When the pidgeon got the piece of food 100% of the time it pecked the bar, the pidgeon took the bar for granted and only returned to it when it needed food.

When the pidgeon never received food it gave up interest in the bar after only pressing it a few times.

When the pidgeon got the food 70% of the time and nothing 30%, it pecked the bar like it's life depended on it. It became a slave to the metal bar.

That is why your Friendzone Fiona sits there and bitches about her man but will never leave him. He makes her peck. You are the metal bar that is taken for granted.


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #19046628 - 10/28/13 03:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
"Ima nice guy" is always cover for "I have no idea what the fuck im doing"




I'm tired of this nice guy bullshit. Sorry bro, you're not a nice guy if you're just yrying to get into her pussy. You're just a loser.



how do you figure?  girls try to get dick often just like guys try to get pussy.  humans are inherently slutty


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: thelanzii]
    #19046731 - 10/28/13 03:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah and they shouldn't dress it up as something else. Be straight about what you want. No girl is obligated to like you or fuck you just because you are "nice." Everyone has their own tastes and if all you are looking for is sex expect the other person to be superficial.


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #19047356 - 10/28/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Im so happy happy a lot of you guys understand. I thought for sure I'd be the only one giving realistic advice. And the pidgeon study is pretty cool.


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: Mescalean] * 1
    #19047714 - 10/28/13 06:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

There's no reason why you can't be a nice guy while also giving off some seriously animalistic sexual vibes. All it takes is one look or a sensual touch and the girl knows you mean business.

Personally, I think the best way to get laid is to first allow the girl to like you (ie. nice, caring, self-assured, but not clingy or dependent, be interested in her) then at the right moment let her know in a non-threatening way that you're a sexual powerhouse who'd dominate her in bed (seriously, all it takes is a flash of eyes and a sensual brush of the hand across her cheek or back) - this can happen in the course of an hour, or over days/weeks.

IMHO, subtext is everything with women.

EDIT: For the record, I didn't understand any of this when I was a young buck (teens to mid-twenties). I'm not particularly handsome (objectively a 6.5/10, but in good shape) and somehow I ended up with a gorgeous girlfriend, but in the last few years (I'm now 35) and since I developed my confidence, I've had women make themselves available to me who I'd previously thought were waaaaay out of my league.


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
    #19047762 - 10/28/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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It's all about human behavior. Nice guys don't get laid because they make themselves available to the woman they're after. Women, much like men, usually want what they cannot have, this is why they go after the player, alpha, whatever. If they could just get him tonight, maybe they could keep him, change him, and establish massive social value.

A study was done with a pidgeon.

The pidgeon would peck at a metal bar and receive a piece of food, but in different variations of the experiment the pidgeon would get the food at different rates.

When the pidgeon got the piece of food 100% of the time it pecked the bar, the pidgeon took the bar for granted and only returned to it when it needed food.

When the pidgeon never received food it gave up interest in the bar after only pressing it a few times.

When the pidgeon got the food 70% of the time and nothing 30%, it pecked the bar like it's life depended on it. It became a slave to the metal bar.

That is why your Friendzone Fiona sits there and bitches about her man but will never leave him. He makes her peck. You are the metal bar that is taken for granted.




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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: 245willow19] * 10
    #19081817 - 11/03/13 06:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This is why I think that most people's social skills stop developing after high school.

This whole "nice guy" vs "alpha-male" idea is just as stupid as the "skater" vs "jock" stereotype; it's a high school mentality.

It's not real.

People live out roles that they create for themselves.

What's interesting, is that there seems to be a belief that whatever "role" you played in high school will stick with you for the rest of your life.

This is why you see 55 year old men wearing Letterman's jackets at high school football games.

It's fucking pathetic.

Real life is nothing like "The Breakfast Club".


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: Poor Boy]
    #19081869 - 11/03/13 06:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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theres a code...

when you first meet a chick you must follow this.

ass hole... nice... ass hole... ass hole... ass hole... nice... nice... ass hole... nice...

from then on its your choice.





And you should always fallow this formula because their is no variance in humans or situation. :willynilly:


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: Mr. Material] * 2
    #19081887 - 11/03/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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This is why I think that most people's social skills stop developing after high school.

This whole "nice guy" vs "alpha-male" idea is just as stupid as the "skater" vs "jock" stereotype; it's a high school mentality.

It's not real.

People live out roles that they create for themselves.

What's interesting, is that there seems to be a belief that whatever "role" you played in high school will stick with you for the rest of your life.

This is why you see 55 year old men wearing Letterman's jackets at high school football games.

It's fucking pathetic.

Real life is nothing like "The Breakfast Club".



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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: Mr. Material] * 1
    #19082127 - 11/03/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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This is why I think that most people's social skills stop developing after high school.

This whole "nice guy" vs "alpha-male" idea is just as stupid as the "skater" vs "jock" stereotype; it's a high school mentality.

It's not real.

People live out roles that they create for themselves.

What's interesting, is that there seems to be a belief that whatever "role" you played in high school will stick with you for the rest of your life.

This is why you see 55 year old men wearing Letterman's jackets at high school football games.

It's fucking pathetic.

Real life is nothing like "The Breakfast Club".




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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
    #19082144 - 11/03/13 07:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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It's all about human behavior. Nice guys don't get laid because they make themselves available to the woman they're after. Women, much like men, usually want what they cannot have, this is why they go after the player, alpha, whatever. If they could just get him tonight, maybe they could keep him, change him, and establish massive social value.

A study was done with a pidgeon.

The pidgeon would peck at a metal bar and receive a piece of food, but in different variations of the experiment the pidgeon would get the food at different rates.

When the pidgeon got the piece of food 100% of the time it pecked the bar, the pidgeon took the bar for granted and only returned to it when it needed food.

When the pidgeon never received food it gave up interest in the bar after only pressing it a few times.

When the pidgeon got the food 70% of the time and nothing 30%, it pecked the bar like it's life depended on it. It became a slave to the metal bar.

That is why your Friendzone Fiona sits there and bitches about her man but will never leave him. He makes her peck. You are the metal bar that is taken for granted.




In my opinion, it's great to keep this in mind if you're dating more than one person at a time. However, if you are genuinely interested in one person, staying aloof and unattainable might just make it easier for them to forget about you. I think this is where honesty, boldness and confidence become crucial. You need to be honest with your intentions (you're not trying to be her friend); and you need to be bold enough to make your intentions known early on - while having the confidence to move on if necessary.

I'm positive that if you're honest, bold and confident - you'll never be in "The Friend Zone" again.


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: broken] * 1
    #19082202 - 11/03/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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closed veil said:
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Poor Boy said:
theres a code...

when you first meet a chick you must follow this.

ass hole... nice... ass hole... ass hole... ass hole... nice... nice... ass hole... nice...

from then on its your choice.





And you should always fallow this formula because their is no variance in humans or situation. :willynilly:




:lol:

This is why I think a lot of people fail at relationships because they are stuck in a rut "playing games" - and don't know how to do much else.

I think this is why we see so many women who only respond to negativity, and so many guys who only know how to treat women like shit.


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: Mr. Material]
    #19083950 - 11/04/13 01:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The example you give of a 55 year old wearing a football jacket is completely irrelevant to this conversation.
The poor guy continues to wear that jacket because he was obviously a player back in high school, and after school he wasn't good enough to advance further and pursue a football carer. Unfortunately he directed all his attention on football while at school and lacked any other skills, knowledge or interest to pursue a different carer. He got a shitty job and constantly says 'if only i could go back and know what i know now.' This is the critical point, instead of growing in an unexpected direction, he keeps looking back on the past, and refuses to grow, and ultimately become quite miserable person.
His son took up football, (probably pressured to do so) and the father relives his glory days through him.

I agree that people do live out the roles they create for them selves. Each woman is different, but the aim in my instructions was inform the op of a way to behave that will be attractive to the majority of women. There exist gender roles, and people are always (there may be some exceptions) attracted to a person that is playing the opposite gender role. Woman usually play the female gender role, and men usually play the male gender role. With this in mind, if a man decides to play the female gender role, he will obviously have a lot less opportunities to have sex.
The 'nice guy' the one that falls into the friend zone time after time does so because he wants the sex so bad, he's willing to do anything for her. By doing anything the girl wants, the 'nice guy' inevitably ends up playing some of the female gender roles, and the woman never gains any attraction for him.

I do not recommend people becoming an asshole, because there is a middle ground that works even better, but 'the asshole' or 'jerk' is able to get woman because he isn't afraid to push the woman away a little bit. He makes the women crave him. It works because he forces the women to do one of three things, either walk away, argue, or become supplicative. If a woman is one of the first two, he's lost out, but if the woman supplicates, then she will also be forced to play some parts of the female gender role. It will make her feel feminine and if the guy knows what he's doing, he can be in.

My instructions were given to instruct the op how to act to play the male gender role, to get maximum positive results. There are a lot of other things to take into consideration that could affect the op's success, but i'm participating on message board, not writing a book.

For the record, I am not a psychologist, and do not claim to be. I am simply a person who used to have poor social skill. I have studied several social dynamics books, and put many of the things into practice. I have pulled my skills up to just above the standard of most individuals, but i also still have a lot of things to learn and many more to perfect.

By the way, i'm pretty sure Poor Boy was joking around.


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: 245willow19] * 2
    #19083987 - 11/04/13 02:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Because 'nice guys' are often not half as nice as they consider themselves to be. They are exactly the same as the bad boys, but more insecure and imbued with a false sense of moral superiority. There's nothing nice about that. The *really* nice guys do get laid, no problem.


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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: koraks]
    #19083994 - 11/04/13 02:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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koraks said:
Because 'nice guys' are often not half as nice as they consider themselves to be. They are exactly the same as the bad boys, but more insecure and imbued with a false sense of moral superiority. There's nothing nice about that. The *really* nice guys do get laid, no problem.



Id say number six of this cracked article way is another good way of saying this
http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-truths-that-will-make-you-better-person/
Hers the part for those of us to lazy to click the link
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#6. The World Only Cares About What It Can Get from You

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Let's say that the person you love the most has just been shot. He or she is lying in the street, bleeding and screaming. A guy rushes up and says, "Step aside." He looks over your loved one's bullet wound and pulls out a pocket knife -- he's going to operate right there in the street.

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"OK, which one is the injured one?"

You ask, "Are you a doctor?"

The guy says, "No."

You say, "But you know what you're doing, right? You're an old Army medic, or ..."

At this point the guy becomes annoyed. He tells you that he is a nice guy, he is honest, he is always on time. He tells you that he is a great son to his mother and has a rich life full of fulfilling hobbies, and he boasts that he never uses foul language.

Confused, you say, "How does any of that fucking matter when my (wife/husband/best friend/parent) is lying here bleeding! I need somebody who knows how to operate on bullet wounds! Can you do that or not?!?"

Now the man becomes agitated -- why are you being shallow and selfish? Do you not care about any of his other good qualities? Didn't you just hear him say that he always remembers his girlfriend's birthday? In light of all of the good things he does, does it really matter if he knows how to perform surgery?

In that panicked moment, you will take your bloody hands and shake him by the shoulders, screaming, "Yes, I'm saying that none of that other shit matters, because in this specific situation, I just need somebody who can stop the bleeding, you crazy fucking asshole."

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"I don't get it. Would it help if I put on a lab jacket? Here, one sec, let me just ..."

So here is my terrible truth about the adult world: You are in that very situation every single day. Only you are the confused guy with the pocket knife. All of society is the bleeding gunshot victim.

If you want to know why society seems to shun you, or why you seem to get no respect, it's because society is full of people who need things. They need houses built, they need food to eat, they need entertainment, they need fulfilling sexual relationships. You arrived at the scene of that emergency, holding your pocket knife, by virtue of your birth -- the moment you came into the world, you became part of a system designed purely to see to people's needs.

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"Here's that shit you needed. Now fuck off."

Either you will go about the task of seeing to those needs by learning a unique set of skills, or the world will reject you, no matter how kind, giving and polite you are. You will be poor, you will be alone, you will be left out in the cold.

Does that seem mean, or crass, or materialistic? What about love and kindness -- don't those things matter? Of course. As long as they result in you doing things for people that they can't get elsewhere. For you see ...

Read more: http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-truths-that-will-make-you-better-person/#ixzz2jfOFHGNX





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Re: Why nice guys can't get girls/laid? [Re: koraks]
    #19084279 - 11/04/13 06:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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koraks said:
Because 'nice guys' are often not half as nice as they consider themselves to be. They are exactly the same as the bad boys, but more insecure and imbued with a false sense of moral superiority. There's nothing nice about that. The *really* nice guys do get laid, no problem.




This is true.


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