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ipappnasei



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omg guys help me i got a drying problem
#19040824 - 10/27/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i was planning to dry with my fruit dryer but i didnt test it and its like a heating fan. hot as fuck... now i got nothing to dry and like 200g fresh mushrooms here... any ideas?
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: ipappnasei]
#19040890 - 10/27/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: huxley_hound]
#19040991 - 10/27/13 02:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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hey guys so i put it in this drying thingy and put rice on the bottom. the fan is blowing cold air from the top down to the mushrooms. will this work?
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: ipappnasei]
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: ipappnasei]
#19041264 - 10/27/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Should be fine... Depending on the humidity and your area, the fan alone should be enough to get them cracker dry! Unless you live in the rainforest or something. Give it a try.
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: ipappnasei]
#19041304 - 10/27/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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They'd be better being fanned in open air where all the moisture has somewhere to go. The rice is pointless in that setup because it cant absorb moisture from anything in the surrounding area, because its constantly being replaced by the fan with relatively humid air.
Is that a dehydrator the fans sitting on? Why not just use it to dehydrate the mushys at 125F? Thats what most of us do here. The actives in them wont break down from the heat of a dehydrator. Of course i fan dry a bit first before dehydrating so they dont stick together.
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: OregonMushys]
#19041367 - 10/27/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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OregonMushys said: Why not just use it to dehydrate the mushys at 125F? Thats what most of us do here.
Most of us just use the dehydrator at the highest temp, not 125F.
I have never heard of anyone drying at that temp.....the more heat you use, the faster they will dry, and the less potency loss there will be.
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: PussyFart]
#19041422 - 10/27/13 03:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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OregonMushys said: They'd be better being fanned in open air where all the moisture has somewhere to go. The rice is pointless in that setup because it cant absorb moisture from anything in the surrounding area, because its constantly being replaced by the fan with relatively humid air.
Is that a dehydrator the fans sitting on? Why not just use it to dehydrate the mushys at 125F? Thats what most of us do here. The actives in them wont break down from the heat of a dehydrator. Of course i fan dry a bit first before dehydrating so they dont stick together.
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OregonMushys said: Why not just use it to dehydrate the mushys at 125F? Thats what most of us do here.
Most of us just use the dehydrator at the highest temp, not 125F.
I have never heard of anyone drying at that temp.....the more heat you use, the faster they will dry, and the less potency loss there will be.
well i read that the heating will destroy the psylocebine and i cant regulate the temperature. and its srsly hot as fuck... should i still do it? its just as hot as a regular hair fan...
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: ipappnasei]
#19041428 - 10/27/13 03:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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ipappnasei said: well i read that the heating will destroy the psylocebine and i can regulate the temperature. and its srsly hot as fuck... should i still do it?
Yes.
The actives in mushrooms don't break down until FAR past 300F.
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: PussyFart]
#19041451 - 10/27/13 03:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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well then im just going to trust you and put the lid on it. how many hours should i let it run?
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: ipappnasei]
#19041520 - 10/27/13 04:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Until they are cracker dry.
This is variable depending on the size of the fruits.
I run mine for 18-24 hours usually, cram packed.
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: PussyFart]
#19041531 - 10/27/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You dont get all your mushys stuck together from dehydrating freshly picked? When i dehydrate freshly picked, they always stick entirely together in a big disc. Unless you got straight completely nothing but closed caps, then it might be a bit easier to seperate them since the caps are still solidly connected to the stems.
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: OregonMushys]
#19042020 - 10/27/13 06:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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OregonMushys said: You dont get all your mushys stuck together from dehydrating freshly picked?
No, because I take my time and organize them like so.
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: PussyFart]
#19042037 - 10/27/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have found that cutting out pieces of window screen to line your dehydrator trays works really well. When they are dry you just pick up the screen off the rack, fold it in half, and dump them in the bag
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: Stromrider]
#19042097 - 10/27/13 06:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Notahacker is right on all this. The heat in your fruit dryer is ok and wont hurt anything. They dont get hurt till the heat is above 300F
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: rumfor69]
#19042173 - 10/27/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I did learn the hard way, that putting them into the food dryer straight after picking, they will get real ugly because the tissue is still active and reacting to the heat (turning dark). After 2 days of normal drying that doesn't happen anymore and they can be crisp-dry in no-time in the food dryer. This might not happen at more expensive models with adjustable temp, but watch out with a cheap ass one like I have that only has a on/off button.
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: monoculture]
#19042226 - 10/27/13 07:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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monoculture said: I did learn the hard way, that putting them into the food dryer straight after picking, they will get real ugly because the tissue is still active and reacting to the heat (turning dark).
Bruising is not the actives reacting to the heat.
Bruising and potency have nothing in common.
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monoculture said: After 2 days of normal drying that doesn't happen anymore and they can be crisp-dry in no-time in the food dryer. This might not happen at more expensive models with adjustable temp, but watch out with a cheap ass one like I have that only has a on/off button.
Mine only has an on/off switch, and it get's to about 160F....I harvest them and put them straight into the dehydrator, usually for 18-24 hours.
The longer it takes them to get dry, the more potency loss will occur.
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: rumfor69]
#19042252 - 10/27/13 07:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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rumfor69 said: Notahacker is right on all this. The heat in your fruit dryer is ok and wont hurt anything. They dont get hurt till the heat is above 300F
QFT.
I put mine right into a dehydrator for 8-12 hours (whatever it takes, really.) Mine come out bone dry and 0 complaints about potency.
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: PussyFart]
#19042253 - 10/27/13 07:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
The longer it takes them to get dry, the more potency loss will occur.
I've dried em straight picked into the food dehydrator and i've left them in front of fans for a couple days then finished em in the dehydrator. I've never noticed a difference in potency. I do notice they look way better when they fan dry some first. They dont shrivel up like raisins so much.
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: rumfor69]
#19042277 - 10/27/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's not something you would really notice.
But there is potency loss from oxidation.
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: PussyFart]
#19044602 - 10/28/13 07:41 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bruising is not the actives reacting to the heat.
Bruising and potency have nothing in common.
Sure, but that is not what I said. I am sure they will still work fine when I eat them, but they just don't look like it should. The dehydrator I have has the same temp as yours, so I wonder why I get a different result. I did just set it up with one fresh mushroom in there to see what happens.
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: monoculture]
#19044609 - 10/28/13 07:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Most people on here make drying mushrooms so much more complicated than it needs to be. It's not that hard guys. You pick the mushrooms, you put them in a food dehydrator with the heat turned way up, and pull them out about 12 hours later (or whenever they are cracker dry) and stick them in a sealed container. Gee whiz!
If you don't have a dehydrator then go buy one! You'll be glad you did 
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: Stromrider]
#19048141 - 10/28/13 07:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well my fresh mushroom did dry perfectly, makes me mull what went wrong when they came out very shrunken and black. I do agree a food dehydrator is the easiest and fastest way to dry.
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: monoculture]
#19049091 - 10/28/13 09:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I had a ton of mushrooms turn black as hell trying to dry them with a fan too

That turned into this

I bought a dehydrator right after that it gets up to like 170 F inside I pack all four trays full of mushies and about 5 hours gets em cracker dry and there potent as fuck would never dry them any other way
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: Cb411]
#19050242 - 10/29/13 03:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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They look exactly the same. I see they are fat-asses, the mushrooms I did see it happen to were fat-asses too but the mushrooms I dried yesterday were not. Maybe that is the difference?
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: monoculture]
#19056595 - 10/30/13 08:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have found that cutting out pieces of window screen to line your dehydrator trays works really well. When they are dry you just pick up the screen off the rack, fold it in half, and dump them in the bag
I wouldn't recommend using window screen mesh. It isn't food safe, and I think I remember reading/hearing somewhere that moisture can cause certain minerals/toxins to leech out of the metal. There are food safe plastic meshes for dehydrators though.
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: Khaleesi]
#19056667 - 10/30/13 09:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I normally fan dry my shrooms for 2-3 days. Then I put them in the top of my of my closet on aluminum foil. I have a few peyote cactus growing on the middle shelf so I have a small space heater in the bottom I keep the heat at 85-87ºf humidity is very low If any at all. Normally in two more days my shrooms are cracker dry ground up in a coffee grinder and capsuled in size 000 works great if you have a spare closet.
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: T-Funkadelic]
#19058610 - 10/30/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said: It's not something you would really notice.
But there is potency loss from oxidation.
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: JMcDoogle]
#19058626 - 10/30/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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JMcDoogle said:
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Notahacker420 said: It's not something you would really notice.
But there is potency loss from oxidation.
I... WANT... DOCUMENTATION.
  
Step 1:

Step 2:

Step 3: PROFIT!
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: PussyFart]
#19058658 - 10/30/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
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JMcDoogle said:
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Notahacker420 said: It's not something you would really notice.
But there is potency loss from oxidation.
I... WANT... DOCUMENTATION.
  
Step 1:

Step 2:

Step 3: PROFIT!
heres the thing, you find it so useful to ridicule people with posts that you've searched, but find it hard to be so prompt to back up this claim..
I'll take it in this case, documentation doesnt exist.
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: JMcDoogle]
#19058671 - 10/30/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I am tired of using the search function for people....
If you think what I am saying is a falsehood, please prove me wrong.
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: PussyFart]
#19058685 - 10/30/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I dont believe you could make it a week without posting a search function simply to ridicule someones statement.
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: JMcDoogle]
#19058717 - 10/30/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok, good for you.
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Re: omg guys help me i got a drying problem [Re: PussyFart]
#19058898 - 10/30/13 05:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Obviously... Duh.
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