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How do you avoid the "weird" feeling on the come up?
    #19040751 - 10/27/13 01:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So, recently I received a taffy from a friend that had supposedly ~5 grams worth of powdered psilocybin extract. I had only ever shroomed an 8th before that.

Looking back, I'm quite sure it was less than 5 grams. Even though I've only ever dosed an 8th, and this dose was definitely more than that, I don't think it was a full 5 gs. That's supposed to be a pretty heroic dose, and other than the come up (which is what I am here to talk about)I wasn't tripping that considerably harder.

Even on an 8th, during the initial 15-30 mins after ingestion there's some kind of... weird feeling in your body ya know? I'm assuming this varies for everyone but you get what I mean. On an 8th this uncomfortable feeling is pretty mild, to me at least, and usually goes away pretty fast. However, on a higher dose like my most recent one (which I'm estimating at around 4-4.5 grams, probably not 5 unless I have a high natural tolerance or something) the come up was really uncomfortable.

During the 1st 15 minutes of it all I wanted to do was lay on the couch, and not move at all because I just felt so weird. Not even nauseous really, just an uncomfortable emptiness in my stomach almost like being extremely nervous, and kind of a weird tingly feeling in my extremities. I thought I was going to be laying there all trip the way the come up felt, but once we forced ourselves to get up and go for a walk it got better, really turned the whole thing around for me.

My question is, what can/do you do to avoid this weird feeling during the initial 30 or so mins? Or at least keep your mind off it, because what I was feeling was virtually impossible to ignore and really unpleasant. Any thoughts are appreciated :laugh:


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Re: How do you avoid the "weird" feeling on the come up? [Re: jesslet]
    #19040795 - 10/27/13 01:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Kava kava, ashwagandha, holy basil are my three favorite calming/anxiety reducing natural substances. I make extracts out of all 3 using alcohol, and if you want to avoid alcohol you can massage kava kava in water to make the drink as it has been made for a long time where kava kava occurs naturally, or make the other two into tea although I am not a big fan of the taste.

On the unnatural side, I use eszopiclone (Lunesta) to reduce my anxiety during the come up or sometimes during entire trips for DMT. I don't find it necessary with mushrooms, I simply love the feeling of those. Lunesta is a non-benzo but I assume benzos (Xanax, Valium, Ativan, Klonopin, etc, etc) will do the same but probably even better. I know they give benzos to people having psychedelic crises sometimes so I am not sure if it will reduce the effectiveness of the mushrooms, but I assume there is a high chance of this. Also you may feel like laying down or possibly even sleeping after taking these drugs so be aware.

edit: I don't smoke pot anymore (wish I could) but I used to smoke a bowl before consuming mushrooms. Helped with the nausea that I sometimes used to get as well as the anxiety. I think a time or two it may have added to the anxiety but that was more because of my set/setting than anything else.


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Re: How do you avoid the "weird" feeling on the come up? [Re: V1rusH0st]
    #19040950 - 10/27/13 01:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Drink and smoke weed before you dose, either, separate, or together. You will roll into the trip much more smoothly then if you dose up sober.


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Re: How do you avoid the "weird" feeling on the come up? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #19040977 - 10/27/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The uneasiness and anxiousness is a pretty common thing, I think.

Personally I like to make tea and smoke a bowl while it brews. Meditation at the beginning can also really help, at least in my experience.

I've also often wondered how much of the anxiousness is psychosomatic, that is, we anticipate a certain experience and in turn that anticipation yields some impatience, uneasiness, etc


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Re: How do you avoid the "weird" feeling on the come up? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #19040990 - 10/27/13 02:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

yeah i always drink so that i basically forget i ate them kinda


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Re: How do you avoid the "weird" feeling on the come up? [Re: SnowDaze]
    #19041005 - 10/27/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I've never mixed alcohol with psychedelics but I hear people mention it often. Kind of scary idea to me. Maybe in small amounts it might be calming. I just hate the physical feeling that drinking and not continuing drinking gives me. Like a hangover before the night is even over. If I start drinking I usually keep drinking til I ass out.


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Re: How do you avoid the "weird" feeling on the come up? [Re: V1rusH0st]
    #19041126 - 10/27/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I powered through a ton of Russian Standard vodka straight from the bottle one trip, it was going down easy, awesome feeling trip. I can get the hangover while still drinking feeling as well, if i'm just drinking and smoking weed. Shrooms have a powerful body high so that it is a non factor when tripping however.


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