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skippydude
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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: PussyFart]
#18989790 - 10/17/13 07:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Casing cubes is an unnecessary step that adds an additional risk to the process increasing the chances for contamination. There is one scenario where casing is beneficial with cubes and that is rolling PF cakes in verm, but mono tubs & trays need no casing.
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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: skippydude]
#18989821 - 10/17/13 08:01 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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skippydude said: There is one scenario where casing is beneficial with cubes and that is rolling PF cakes in verm, but mono tubs & trays need no casing.
Unless your growing PE, in which case a casing layer would most likely reduce 1st flush blobbage.
Other than that, unless proper conditions cannot be met, there is no real benefit of having one.
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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: PussyFart]
#18990054 - 10/17/13 09:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lol yea I guess I'm just overthinking everything. At the very least I'll hold off on playing with casings until I have more experience to experiment =)
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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: fleki]
#18990232 - 10/17/13 10:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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fleki said: Lol yea I guess I'm just overthinking everything. At the very least I'll hold off on playing with casings until I have more experience to experiment =)
Good plan, after a few grows, when the outcome isn't as important and you can get your hands on an isolate, do a side by side for yourself. You'll see, the proof is in the pudding. At this point in the game the toughest thing is learning patience.
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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: skippydude]
#18990680 - 10/17/13 12:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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So while reading a bit I came across this http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17231150#17231150. It seems to explain the excessive aeriel mycelium activity I've been seeing and attributes it to poor GE. Is this something I should be worrying about during colonization? I'm just using the imperfect seal of the lid for ge right now.
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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: fleki]
#18990719 - 10/17/13 12:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Personally I like to see a little aerial myc. When I don't see any my humidity is usually too low. A little at the base of the stem and on the surface of the sub doesn't bother me at all. If it were on the caps I'd definitely increase fanning. Is that a no hole mono tub? If so lots of fanning will be required 4-5 times a day and still could show aerial myc.
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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: skippydude]
#18990985 - 10/17/13 01:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Naw it's got the 4 at sub level 2 at top type deal with polyfil. Made the holes a bit smaller since it's a mini. Though I'm done worrying for the time being, gonna try n forget about it for a few days =)
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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: fleki]
#18998714 - 10/19/13 07:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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So I checked my tub when I woke up and it looks like this 10/19

Let me know what you think, I intended to wait through the weekend to fruit but is it rdy now?? Aslo there is a decent amount of condensation on the mycelium itself, should i be worried?
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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: fleki]
#18998732 - 10/19/13 07:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looks kind of funky but go ahead and fruit it. It is as ready as it will ever be.
This is what a healthy tub is supposed to look at 100%

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skippydude
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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: fleki]
#18998985 - 10/19/13 09:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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fleki said: So I checked my tub when I woke up and it looks like this 10/19

Let me know what you think, I intended to wait through the weekend to fruit but is it rdy now?? Aslo there is a decent amount of condensation on the mycelium itself, should i be worried?
It looks great, very rhizo and knotting  The glistening moisture on the sub is a good thing, just watch for pooling
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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: skippydude]
#19015999 - 10/22/13 08:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just an update on my progress, set my tub to fruit on 10/19. It's been moving along nicely. Showing a good amount of what I believe to be knots, unless I'm mistaken. 10/22: Been producing a lot of aerial growth still so I loosened the poly at the top holes. Also haven't had a good light until now, but I got a 6500k fluorescent so I'm not worried. Let me know what ya think =)
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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: fleki]
#19020366 - 10/23/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey, thats my favorite strain, Mazateca!
Glad its getting grown again, makes me smile!
Good Luck with your casing. ~ LC
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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#19022555 - 10/23/13 10:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Got my first pin! That in itself is pretty gratifying =)

Hopefully many more to come!
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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: fleki]
#19024523 - 10/24/13 09:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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fleki said: Got my first pin! That in itself is pretty gratifying =)

Hopefully many more to come!
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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: skippydude]
#19026673 - 10/24/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Obligatory next day pic, I'm fukn amped like a kid on Christmas lmao! More pins, pic doesn't really do it justice there's like 30-40 baby pins pretty evenly spread throughout the tub so I'm pretty stoked =D

I'll wait till there's a bit more action for my next update.
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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: fleki]
#19035125 - 10/26/13 11:07 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Everything seems to be going great got a pretty nice pin set and more are coming in daily =) Also a few neat mutations, pin with another growing off the cap in top right corner of the pic and a few fused pins.

My question is, are there any ways to tell if my tub is drying out or too dry? I don't mist at all, especially now that there is so many pins. The surface still has moisture on most of it but the edges don't seem to have as much of the glistening beads of water on it.
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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: fleki]
#19035183 - 10/26/13 11:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Don't sweat the mutations, they're more potent and very photogenic. Your tub looks hydrated well enough to me  I never mist just because or routinely, always look at the sub and decide. If it's glistening IMO no mist needed. 2nd flush and on, generally require more misting than the first
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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: skippydude]
#19035254 - 10/26/13 11:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Haha I love the mutants, imo thats the nature of any mushroom or fungus. Which is why they are so hardy, they are always adapting and mutating to suit their grow environment. I figured the second flush will require more attention to moisture, just tryin to make these shrooms as happy as possible so they'll return the favor
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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: fleki]
#19040270 - 10/27/13 11:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Some more pics, different angle so you can better see my grow. Woo first actual shroom! I'm so tempted to just pick it n a few bolts and just eat them now lmao

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Re: Mazapatec on Rye (First Grow). Update with question. [Re: fleki]
#19040291 - 10/27/13 11:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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