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The More I do Shrooms...
    #19039265 - 10/27/13 03:27 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

the more of a nihilist i become
the more of the matrix i see
the more i see humans as poor and pathetic
waking up sucks.


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For years on end I have been sitting here,
impatiently awaiting potency: some explosive revelatory surge
that will carry me away and permit no looking back.
But this moment of deliverance has not arrived,
and I have done nothing to hasten it.
Perhaps it doesn’t matter.
Perhaps I wasn’t meant to do anything.
In which case, I have succeeded admirably.



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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Apollop] * 1
    #19039285 - 10/27/13 03:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

thats how weed made me view life. Then I ate shrooms and realized, we are all warped by our perception. Everybody sees everything out of there own special pair of glasses. Yes it's a fucked up place, but thats what we got. The best thing we can do is do what we can to make it better instead of being selfish and self-centered.

As an individual, it may initially seem hard to put any hope into humanity since you have so little power, but making efforts to help those around you creates a satisfaction that money can never bring. Too bad most people are ignorant of this fact.

And I strongly believe what goes around comes around. I see it everyday, whether it be me or someone else. I personally believe in God but whatever you believe in, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Sacrifice just a little bit of what you have and you will receive something greater in return. Likewise, you will only suffer for selfish actions and end up with less then you were trying to gain through selfishness.

Life Is What You Make it


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: gman7104]
    #19039320 - 10/27/13 04:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah i try to do all that. I think i'm a good person, and I do my best not to cause any harm to anyone, and a very strong believer of karma. I'm just talking about the big picture; the general feeling of pointless and role-playing we are immersed in... shrooms make me see it more... they wake me up and sometimes i wish i had never awaken... people of faith and people who are so attached to their roles seem to functioning better, of course in relation to their mental state and level of awareness...


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: gman7104]
    #19039340 - 10/27/13 04:14 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm trying to grasp as well how to approach these things usefully. Of course they offer a great feeling of satisfaction. Honestly I haven't really felt anything like that before not even sex... (wow... sex on shrooms must be wild :O)

But I think I'm slowly stearing towards what gman is saying.

Peeling of the layers of fake in life is great and personally enlightening and rewarding, but gospelling it is like telling a group of kids eating lollipops that candy is bad for them.

One thing I have to agree with McKenna in is that culture is our enemy. Sure, I've had some great concerts, but in general, the media frenzy serves only to douse the masses... keep them from uprising.
Just look at old Rome. Gave the people games that lasted for months to wind down political instability.

So what to do? I think the best way might just be to silently enjoy the happiness that shrooms can offer you. Try to remember the first time... how happy and light you felt.
That's the feeling, that's what you want to sell to people.
But you shouldn't do it actively... you should just try to be that way, incorporate it into your life. Distance yourself from what is making you feel bad or hateful.

Much like action / reaction you can take a look at "the secret" and work from that. What you think of is what you get. Focus on politicians being corrupt ass holes that cause people harm and you'll suddenly surround yourself with unhappy people.
But if you focus on how great the trees look today, the rays of the sun, the innocent smile of a kid, then you'll suddenly get those things back. The kid will smile back at you, it's mother will smile as well, you toss a friendly remark and she gives one back and so.

That's the potential, that's what you COULD use shrooms for.

I don't think shrooms were meant as much to remove the fakeness of the world, as they are here to make you aware of the fakeness and make you act accordingly to it.

I spent way too much time posting political rants on Facebook... linking Ron Paul, anti-apartheid against Israel and so on... and slowly, people stopped paying attention to my posts, even some of my positive posts.

If you deal in negativity, you get negativity back. :smile:

So yes... acknowledge that the world is fake, that people are somewhat happily ignorant of it, and then help them and the world, by making yourself and the people around you happy. It could really be as little as holding the door for a strange, picking up the package that fell out of the grocery bag, giving a homeless person a sandwich instead of money and so.

That way, waking up could suddenly become a treat of good will and positive reactions.

Your life is indeed what YOU make it :smile: Make it a good one...


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Apollop]
    #19039349 - 10/27/13 04:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The more I do them I realize there is no answer in the shrooms. The answer is within us already.

I find them therapeutic if not entertaining now.


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Apollop]
    #19039362 - 10/27/13 04:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

yeah I understand that. The world is depressing but its all because people are so deceived. It's all a result of our instincts and our innate behavior, which modifies our rational conscience behavior.

cigarette, cocaine or heroin addiction is a model of how money and power effects our brains. You take a line of heroin, you feel an intense rush of pleasure as a result of the increase in dopamine. That pleasure is what all humans are wired by nature to strive for in never satisfying amounts, so that we would be motivated to hunt for food and have sex. Dopamine is a thirst that can never be fully quenched.

Therefore, it manipulates large business owners into going to whatever lengths they can to make that extra dollar, even if it means deceiving or harming everyone else. The power of the dopamine craving is intense enough to remove our moral compass. Business owners know what catastrophic events they are causing just to get richer, but the drive for more money allows them to sleep at night with no guilt.


Yeah im tripping sorry for drawing this out but the only relevant fact is that we obviously can't change this fucked up place, but understanding it brings comfort, because it all makes perfect sense. The only way to be happy is to fulfill your purpose. Everyone has one, some follow it and some let it slip away because they got caught in the world's grasp


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: gman7104]
    #19039368 - 10/27/13 04:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It's funny because I can sometimes notice myself struggling or bartering with my ego...

"Enlightened" me - I wanna quit all this joke working as a commercial photographer and become self-sufficient.

Ego-me - Yeah right, wont work, you're better off making easy money renting out your gear.

"Enlightened" me - Are you sure? Because I can see myself being really happy and pleasant rebuilding an old farm and sow vegetable fields and so on...

Ego-me - How will you support your family eh?

"Enlightened" me - How do you think you support them by spending time away from them to make money to pay off the loans......=

Ego-me - Ambitions mate... fame... today tin cans on white background... next week: IMDB.

"Enlightened" me - And what would that give me and my family?

Ego-me - .....ok, well maybe you can still do my thing at the same time? I mean... just a small barn with gear and so on???

"Enlightened" me - Shhh

Ego-me -  You know I'm right....

and so on and so on.


A constant battle waged between the natural notion of being a free spirit in a world of peers and the ambitions that culture has forced down over my head.


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: beforeIgetold]
    #19039416 - 10/27/13 05:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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beforeIgetold said:
I'm trying to grasp as well how to approach these things usefully. Of course they offer a great feeling of satisfaction. Honestly I haven't really felt anything like that before not even sex... (wow... sex on shrooms must be wild :O)

But I think I'm slowly stearing towards what gman is saying.

Peeling of the layers of fake in life is great and personally enlightening and rewarding, but gospelling it is like telling a group of kids eating lollipops that candy is bad for them.

One thing I have to agree with McKenna in is that culture is our enemy. Sure, I've had some great concerts, but in general, the media frenzy serves only to douse the masses... keep them from uprising.
Just look at old Rome. Gave the people games that lasted for months to wind down political instability.

So what to do? I think the best way might just be to silently enjoy the happiness that shrooms can offer you. Try to remember the first time... how happy and light you felt.
That's the feeling, that's what you want to sell to people.
But you shouldn't do it actively... you should just try to be that way, incorporate it into your life. Distance yourself from what is making you feel bad or hateful.

Much like action / reaction you can take a look at "the secret" and work from that. What you think of is what you get. Focus on politicians being corrupt ass holes that cause people harm and you'll suddenly surround yourself with unhappy people.
But if you focus on how great the trees look today, the rays of the sun, the innocent smile of a kid, then you'll suddenly get those things back. The kid will smile back at you, it's mother will smile as well, you toss a friendly remark and she gives one back and so.

That's the potential, that's what you COULD use shrooms for.

I don't think shrooms were meant as much to remove the fakeness of the world, as they are here to make you aware of the fakeness and make you act accordingly to it.

I spent way too much time posting political rants on Facebook... linking Ron Paul, anti-apartheid against Israel and so on... and slowly, people stopped paying attention to my posts, even some of my positive posts.

If you deal in negativity, you get negativity back. :smile:

So yes... acknowledge that the world is fake, that people are somewhat happily ignorant of it, and then help them and the world, by making yourself and the people around you happy. It could really be as little as holding the door for a strange, picking up the package that fell out of the grocery bag, giving a homeless person a sandwich instead of money and so.

That way, waking up could suddenly become a treat of good will and positive reactions.

Your life is indeed what YOU make it :smile: Make it a good one...




thank you :smile:


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: gman7104]
    #19039422 - 10/27/13 05:27 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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gman7104 said:
yeah I understand that. The world is depressing but its all because people are so deceived. It's all a result of our instincts and our innate behavior, which modifies our rational conscience behavior.

cigarette, cocaine or heroin addiction is a model of how money and power effects our brains. You take a line of heroin, you feel an intense rush of pleasure as a result of the increase in dopamine. That pleasure is what all humans are wired by nature to strive for in never satisfying amounts, so that we would be motivated to hunt for food and have sex. Dopamine is a thirst that can never be fully quenched.

Therefore, it manipulates large business owners into going to whatever lengths they can to make that extra dollar, even if it means deceiving or harming everyone else. The power of the dopamine craving is intense enough to remove our moral compass. Business owners know what catastrophic events they are causing just to get richer, but the drive for more money allows them to sleep at night with no guilt.


Yeah im tripping sorry for drawing this out but the only relevant fact is that we obviously can't change this fucked up place, but understanding it brings comfort, because it all makes perfect sense. The only way to be happy is to fulfill your purpose. Everyone has one, some follow it and some let it slip away because they got caught in the world's grasp





how can you define your purpose in a non-purposeful existence? im not a believer and i dont follow a religion. i know we came from somewhere but have no fucking clue what it is. how can i find a purpose, one with a strong conviction from my side?


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Apollop]
    #19039468 - 10/27/13 06:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well I think you can learn to live well even with these observations.

That is waking up doesn't need to suck.

I think a lot of Buddhist monks probably think similarly. But they figure out ways to live well and wake up well.

Buddhist ideas essentially say that were all deluded fools, mistaking what is impermanent for permanent, not truly aware of death, mistaking what is unsatisfactory for what is satisfactory, and clinging to a permanent self when there really isn't one.

I'm not trying to spread Buddhism here, but just sharing some thoughts. Anyway, in Buddhism I think views are used (not everybody will agree). So I could have the view that humans are poor and pathetic, but if I do then I should be having it for a reason. Where is it taking me? If its making me depressed then it isn't the right view to have. But if its making me let go and be at peace then its the view I should have.

This relates to something I discovered while tripping. We can believe anything! If were not clinging to truth, then belief is a tool for the developing mind. It might be useful for me to believe in god, regardless of truth. If it produces a truth in change, then that is the truth I see, not the truth of words and ideas. Anyway, this is what I think.


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Confused2289]
    #19039579 - 10/27/13 07:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

but who said the right view isn't depressing? who said that right have view has to be a happy one?


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Apollop]
    #19039623 - 10/27/13 07:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Apollop said:
Yeah i try to do all that. I think i'm a good person, and I do my best not to cause any harm to anyone, and a very strong believer of karma.



Quote:

Apollop said:
how can you define your purpose in a non-purposeful existence? im not a believer and i dont follow a religion.



See the contradiction?


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: liquidlounge]
    #19039662 - 10/27/13 08:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

life, is what you make of it.
the experience is the result..


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to much, you didn't take enough" -
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There is no soul, only the ego dies.
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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: bishlap]
    #19039675 - 10/27/13 08:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Confused2289 said:
Well I think you can learn to live well even with these observations.

That is waking up doesn't need to suck.

I think a lot of Buddhist monks probably think similarly. But they figure out ways to live well and wake up well.

Buddhist ideas essentially say that were all deluded fools, mistaking what is impermanent for permanent, not truly aware of death, mistaking what is unsatisfactory for what is satisfactory, and clinging to a permanent self when there really isn't one.

I'm not trying to spread Buddhism here, but just sharing some thoughts. Anyway, in Buddhism I think views are used (not everybody will agree). So I could have the view that humans are poor and pathetic, but if I do then I should be having it for a reason. Where is it taking me? If its making me depressed then it isn't the right view to have. But if its making me let go and be at peace then its the view I should have.

This relates to something I discovered while tripping. We can believe anything! If were not clinging to truth, then belief is a tool for the developing mind. It might be useful for me to believe in god, regardless of truth. If it produces a truth in change, then that is the truth I see, not the truth of words and ideas. Anyway, this is what I think.




Actually... Dalai Lama has often stated that he could sometimes meet a person that he would initially dislike, but since his is the view of being empathic and understanding, he would force himself to find something positive about that person, hence leading him back to positivity.
Also... imagine the strife that the tibethans had to endure during the chinese invasion. That takes a huge amount of self control, to maintain a clear and balanced head and attitude.

So work on finding positive things about people. Lamas example was that if the person he disliked had hair, then he would think to himself, that man has beautiful hair, I am bald...

Being humble and humility are not necessarily signs of weakness


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: liquidlounge]
    #19039706 - 10/27/13 08:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I like this thread
:popcorn:
Happiness for the win!

Shorty:peace:


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: liquidlounge]
    #19039753 - 10/27/13 08:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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liquidlounge said:
Quote:

Apollop said:
Yeah i try to do all that. I think i'm a good person, and I do my best not to cause any harm to anyone, and a very strong believer of karma.



Quote:

Apollop said:
how can you define your purpose in a non-purposeful existence? im not a believer and i dont follow a religion.



See the contradiction?




there is no purpose there, no? is that really a purpose?


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Apollop]
    #19039763 - 10/27/13 08:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You believe in karma but not really?


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Apollop]
    #19039764 - 10/27/13 09:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

This happened to me after I was getting heavy into psychedelic use. I started tripping, often on high doses and I thought I knew everything and that people were completely lost. I thought I had some "special knowledge" that others didn't. I would rant about hidden meanings in life and explain to people what God is, as if they were going to listen to burnt out psychonaut.

We'll I begun becoming "too" obsessed with tripping. It begun to consume my every thought. I started tripping on LSD once a week, with maybe an occasional 2 or 3 week break in between, but that wasn't usually the case. I didn't care, I'd do it at night while my family was home about to fall asleep, then when I wasn't tripping all I could think about were these "lessons" and "obtaining more knowledge".

What began happening was I started getting a heavy tolerance. And eventually I started losing faith in psychedelics. It started with this one night where I took 2 of these very strong hits that I had saved. I remembered how taking two of these the first time was an incredibly strong trip, so I knew that these should have got me VERY high. Well, once again, it let me down. I wouldn't trip. I mean, I wasn't "sober" but I was by no means in any sort of "experience". It was just dull, meaningless and quite honestly, boring. So I said, "fuck this, I want to trip". So I basically took the rest of my stash on top of what I'd already taken to try and compensate for tolerance. It equaled out to about 6 or 7 more hits of acid.

Worst part is, I still didn't trip, but I was still "high", and while the LSD wasn't making me trip out, I was able to feel, intensely the effect it was having on my mind. I had a tolerance to tripping, but that doesn't mean it isn't effecting me the same physically or mentally. My brain felt like jello and it occurred to me that I was lost. Once again, I wasn't tripping but not "sober" either. It was just free of any "magic" I once saw in it. While being high I just thought about all of this "searching" shit, and how it's all contrived and a recipe for disaster. Trying to find God through drugs, or even without drugs, I realized it was all bullshit. I realized that I have no right to believe that because "I" take psychedelic drugs that I live on some higher plane of existence and knowledge. That is just bullshit.

I remember being put into the complete opposite head space I once had. I was no longer worth shit. I thought back to the people I'd preach my bullshit to, and realize that I didn't know shit, I was just some burnt out loser coming off as a psychopath. I felt that I had, quite literally, lost my mind. I thought back to the innocence of myself as a child, and what I've become, as if I was some sort of enlightened being. Ha, yea right.

However, that was a wake up call in my life, and those feelings existed only out of feeling an extreme disgust in psychedelics and mostly for myself, for awhile. I took a good year break from LSD after this, and only tripped on Mushrooms twice in that year. I needed that break, I started feeling like I had dosed at some point or several points throughout every day. No, I don't mean I'd start "tripping" again, but I'd feel the way I did when I had dosed with a huge tolerance, it felt exactly like that, almost constantly. It sucked.

However, this was a bitter phase in my psychedelic life, and I think it's one that many have come to at some point. I've read many stories on here about going through the heavy psychedelic use phase and realizing less is more with psychedelics, at least as far as frequency of use goes. I for one, still love large doses, but I need that several month break in between now, to me, it isn't worth it to trip too often anymore.

Moral of the story? For me, it started with what you said, the beliefs, the knowledge, so on and so on. Then It became complete bitterness and nothingness. Now however, I have reached my comfort zone with using psychedelics, I enjoy the trippy "lessons" WHILE I'm tripping, but I don't become "consumed" by them in life otherwise. What I look for in psychedelics now isn't recreation though. I think the strong point of psychedelics is teaching you about YOU. You may feel connected to everything outside of you, but your mind is creating the experience. Psychedelics cause you to live in a reality completely manifested by "your" conscious mind. How you perceive something during a trip is not necessarily how others do. Eventually with all these beliefs, somebody's going to be disappointed. It becomes like Religion in many ways. I wouldn't say they hold knowledge about the meaning of life, as much as they magnify your thoughts and your mind to the extreme of looking through a microscope, and if you use it more to analyze who "you" are, I think more can be taken from them.

This is just my experience with them though, not everyone feels this way. Just my two cents. I don't say this as a way of lecturing anybody, I made the mistake in those days of abusing them, it just sucked so bad I wouldn't want it to happen to anyone else. :hippie:


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: thormaxim]
    #19039767 - 10/27/13 09:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The more I do them I realize there is no answer in the shrooms. The answer is within us already.

I find them therapeutic if not entertaining now.




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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: liquidlounge]
    #19039789 - 10/27/13 09:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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thormaxim said:
The more I do them I realize there is no answer in the shrooms. The answer is within us already.

I find them therapeutic if not entertaining now.



Quote:

liquidlounge said:
You believe in karma but not really?




oh. yeah i believe in karma. i believe that good energy yields good results. i believe in bad energy and the negative effects it can do to me. what i meant is that i dont believe in religion, afterlife, etc. i mean i dont know. i dont know anything.


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Peace of Mind 1]
    #19039824 - 10/27/13 09:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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This happened to me after I was getting heavy into psychedelic use. I started tripping, often on high doses and I thought I knew everything and that people were completely lost. I thought I had some "special knowledge" that others didn't. I would rant about hidden meanings in life and explain to people what God is, as if they were going to listen to burnt out psychonaut.

We'll I begun becoming "too" obsessed with tripping. It begun to consume my every thought. I started tripping on LSD once a week, with maybe an occasional 2 or 3 week break in between, but that wasn't usually the case. I didn't care, I'd do it at night while my family was home about to fall asleep, then when I wasn't tripping all I could think about were these "lessons" and "obtaining more knowledge".

What began happening was I started getting a heavy tolerance. And eventually I started losing faith in psychedelics. It started with this one night where I took 2 of these very strong hits that I had saved. I remembered how taking two of these the first time was an incredibly strong trip, so I knew that these should have got me VERY high. Well, once again, it let me down. I wouldn't trip. I mean, I wasn't "sober" but I was by no means in any sort of "experience". It was just dull, meaningless and quite honestly, boring. So I said, "fuck this, I want to trip". So I basically took the rest of my stash on top of what I'd already taken to try and compensate for tolerance. It equaled out to about 6 or 7 more hits of acid.

Worst part is, I still didn't trip, but I was still "high", and while the LSD wasn't making me trip out, I was able to feel, intensely the effect it was having on my mind. I had a tolerance to tripping, but that doesn't mean it isn't effecting me the same physically or mentally. My brain felt like jello and it occurred to me that I was lost. Once again, I wasn't tripping but not "sober" either. It was just free of any "magic" I once saw in it. While being high I just thought about all of this "searching" shit, and how it's all contrived and a recipe for disaster. Trying to find God through drugs, or even without drugs, I realized it was all bullshit. I realized that I have no right to believe that because "I" take psychedelic drugs that I live on some higher plane of existence and knowledge. That is just bullshit.

I remember being put into the complete opposite head space I once had. I was no longer worth shit. I thought back to the people I'd preach my bullshit to, and realize that I didn't know shit, I was just some burnt out loser coming off as a psychopath. I felt that I had, quite literally, lost my mind. I thought back to the innocence of myself as a child, and what I've become, as if I was some sort of enlightened being. Ha, yea right.

However, that was a wake up call in my life, and those feelings existed only out of feeling an extreme disgust in psychedelics and mostly for myself, for awhile. I took a good year break from LSD after this, and only tripped on Mushrooms twice in that year. I needed that break, I started feeling like I had dosed at some point or several points throughout every day. No, I don't mean I'd start "tripping" again, but I'd feel the way I did when I had dosed with a huge tolerance, it felt exactly like that, almost constantly. It sucked.

However, this was a bitter phase in my psychedelic life, and I think it's one that many have come to at some point. I've read many stories on here about going through the heavy psychedelic use phase and realizing less is more with psychedelics, at least as far as frequency of use goes. I for one, still love large doses, but I need that several month break in between now, to me, it isn't worth it to trip too often anymore.

Moral of the story? For me, it started with what you said, the beliefs, the knowledge, so on and so on. Then It became complete bitterness and nothingness. Now however, I have reached my comfort zone with using psychedelics, I enjoy the trippy "lessons" WHILE I'm tripping, but I don't become "consumed" by them in life otherwise. What I look for in psychedelics now isn't recreation though. I think the strong point of psychedelics is teaching you about YOU. You may feel connected to everything outside of you, but your mind is creating the experience. Psychedelics cause you to live in a reality completely manifested by "your" conscious mind. How you perceive something during a trip is not necessarily how others do. Eventually with all these beliefs, somebody's going to be disappointed. It becomes like Religion in many ways. I wouldn't say they hold knowledge about the meaning of life, as much as they magnify your thoughts and your mind to the extreme of looking through a microscope, and if you use it more to analyze who "you" are, I think more can be taken from them.

This is just my experience with them though, not everyone feels this way. Just my two cents. I don't say this as a way of lecturing anybody, I made the mistake in those days of abusing them, it just sucked so bad I wouldn't want it to happen to anyone else. :hippie:




thank you. it was a very interesting and helpful read because it looks like where i could head. i dont really use them for recreation, and i havent been using them for a long while, i've only had 6 trips or something... i only use them for recreation when im with friends who i want them to try it for the first time, but what i ultimately want out of this is to learn more about life and about myself... i think they teach you a lot about life and not just about yourself... i dont understand why you lost faith in them at some point in time... i understand why you would be sick from them. i also understand why you would question the 'knowledge' and see yourself as a psychopath because i feel the same way sometimes although ive done them waaaay more than you have, so i could imagine how that might have felt... but what i never lose is the that real certain feeling that there is truth in these experiences and i do not give a fuck what others might think...

what would you say the best interval between each experience is? if i had the supply, i think i'd want to do it every weekend! or at least once a month


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    #19039860 - 10/27/13 09:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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thank you. it was a very interesting and helpful read because it looks like where i could head. i dont really use them for recreation, and i havent been using them for a long while, i've only had 6 trips or something... i only use them for recreation when im with friends who i want them to try it for the first time, but what i ultimately want out of this is to learn more about life and about myself... i think they teach you a lot about life and not just about yourself... i dont understand why you lost faith in them at some point in time... i understand why you would be sick from them. i also understand why you would question the 'knowledge' and see yourself as a psychopath because i feel the same way sometimes although ive done them waaaay more than you have, so i could imagine how that might have felt... but what i never lose is the that real certain feeling that there is truth in these experiences and i do not give a fuck what others might think...

what would you say the best interval between each experience is? if i had the supply, i think i'd want to do it every weekend! or at least once a month




You've done them more than I have? I take that as a typo, if you've only had 6 trips, you've got a long way to go to have tripped more than me. :lol: I'm joking, I figured it's a typo.

But listen man, I'm not saying there isn't truth in them, but it isn't "all" good. In the end I still take good from them again, right? My point was to inform you that you don't want to become overly consumed by it, which can eventually happen. The feeling of knowledge and/or power consumes everybody, look around at figures with power, it's consuming. In a sense, the knowledge you feel you obtain is powerful to you, and before you know it you allow the same thing to control you, you know?

You wouldn't understand the losing faith in psychedelics unless you have been there. What was once a blissful and magical experience, became the very thing disconnecting me from my friends and family because I felt alienated. I felt as though they were all "ignorant" to MY views. When you start taking a real look at that mentality, it's disgusting. It was temporary though, it isn't that I have faith in them again, as much as I have faith in myself to "use" them for the good.



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    #19039929 - 10/27/13 09:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

got it :smile: and yes it was a typo :smile:
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    #19039938 - 10/27/13 09:40 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

As far as intervals go, I'd say NO LESS than a month between. For me nowadays, that's pushing it. I personally prefer 3 months or more. I like to give myself time to totally forget what the psychedelic experience is really like, so when it hits me, I'm free of expectation or comparison. Psychedelic tolerance is physical, but, it is HEAVILY psychological as well. If you start doing it a week or two apart, it will, in my experience, lose it's value.


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    #19039948 - 10/27/13 09:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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As far as intervals go, I'd say NO LESS than a month between. For me nowadays, that's pushing it. I personally prefer 3 months or more. I like to give myself time to totally forget what the psychedelic experience is really like, so when it hits me, I'm free of expectation or comparison. Psychedelic tolerance is physical, but, it is HEAVILY psychological as well. If you start doing it a week or two apart, it will, in my experience, lose it's value.




cool, will try to stick to once a month. they're not really commonly available here in Egypt so I just go crazy whenever i can get my hands on some... will just get them and dry them to use whenever....
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    #19039963 - 10/27/13 09:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Happy to help! I didn't even notice you're from Egypt that's cool man!

Just find your own way, I didn't want to come between your love for psychedelics, use them as you want. I only said all this to save you from the possibility that you end up wasting your stuff, I wasted a good deal of my LSD stash doing that, it was good Acid too. I Can't say it was a waste though, it taught me the way to use them that works for me. So take your own path and see where it leads, I just felt I had to at least inform you of my experience simply to give advice, I'd feel wrong if I didn't. :peace:


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    #19039972 - 10/27/13 09:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

yeah im happy you did :smile:
soon i'd like to try LSD too, or would you think it's better to stick to shrooms since they are natural?


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    #19039974 - 10/27/13 09:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The more I do them I realize there is no answer in the shrooms. The answer is within us already.

I find them therapeutic if not entertaining now.



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You believe in karma but not really?




oh. yeah i believe in karma. i believe that good energy yields good results. i believe in bad energy and the negative effects it can do to me. what i meant is that i dont believe in religion, afterlife, etc. i mean i dont know. i dont know anything.



Well, you wrote that you were not a 'believer' so I suppose you misworded yourself? As per not believing in religions, Karma is most likely based on religious beliefs.

'Good energy / Bad energy', belief in the supernatural or paranormal?


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    #19040062 - 10/27/13 10:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

mm LSD... It's much easier to control and the mindfuck isn't as intense, unless you smoke weed in which it throws you into intense visuals and crazy mindfuck... tripping for 2-3 times longer. Extremely fun and the visuals are better IMO, more intense and in your face. all IME

It's amazing what two little papers can do


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    #19040085 - 10/27/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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yeah im happy you did :smile:
soon i'd like to try LSD too, or would you think it's better to stick to shrooms since they are natural?



I love LSD. Try it when you come across it. They are both beautiful and good for their own things. I think I prefer the feeling of LSD, but that in no way means it's more intense, intensity is based on the dose at hand. Visually, LSD is far more intense though, Mushrooms have a mind fuck element that probably gives them the win on the mind fuck end of it. In high doses though, LSD will fuck you up, I have had many LSD trips that literally made me feel I've gone insane, in a fun way though. :lol:


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    #19040091 - 10/27/13 10:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Peace of mind, lovely to read man:heart: Il take all those lessons with me...

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    #19040100 - 10/27/13 10:27 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The more intelligent you are the more lsd will do for ya. If you are insane high iq then that shit will fuck YOU UP BRO! :philososloth::wellholyshit:


sometimes it would be nice to be a stupid ass moron  :wooawesome:


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    #19040113 - 10/27/13 10:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The more I do them I realize there is no answer in the shrooms. The answer is within us already.

I find them therapeutic if not entertaining now.



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You believe in karma but not really?




oh. yeah i believe in karma. i believe that good energy yields good results. i believe in bad energy and the negative effects it can do to me. what i meant is that i dont believe in religion, afterlife, etc. i mean i dont know. i dont know anything.



Well, you wrote that you were not a 'believer' so I suppose you misworded yourself? As per not believing in religions, Karma is most likely based on religious beliefs.

'Good energy / Bad energy', belief in the supernatural or paranormal?





yeah true. i guess im confused.


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    #19040122 - 10/27/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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mm LSD... It's much easier to control and the mindfuck isn't as intense, unless you smoke weed in which it throws you into intense visuals and crazy mindfuck... tripping for 2-3 times longer. Extremely fun and the visuals are better IMO, more intense and in your face. all IME

It's amazing what two little papers can do




maybe it's cuz i only experienced levels 2/3 trips that i still kinda underestimate the intensity of shrooms. right now, for me, nothing can go wrong on shrooms if set and setting are correct... i could be wrong, looking forward to finding out tho :smile:


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    #19040124 - 10/27/13 10:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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yeah im happy you did :smile:
soon i'd like to try LSD too, or would you think it's better to stick to shrooms since they are natural?



I love LSD. Try it when you come across it. They are both beautiful and good for their own things. I think I prefer the feeling of LSD, but that in no way means it's more intense, intensity is based on the dose at hand. Visually, LSD is far more intense though, Mushrooms have a mind fuck element that probably gives them the win on the mind fuck end of it. In high doses though, LSD will fuck you up, I have had many LSD trips that literally made me feel I've gone insane, in a fun way though. :lol:





i think i'll try it very soon. will let you know how that goes :smile:


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    #19041200 - 10/27/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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yeah I understand that. The world is depressing but its all because people are so deceived. It's all a result of our instincts and our innate behavior, which modifies our rational conscience behavior.

cigarette, cocaine or heroin addiction is a model of how money and power effects our brains. You take a line of heroin, you feel an intense rush of pleasure as a result of the increase in dopamine. That pleasure is what all humans are wired by nature to strive for in never satisfying amounts, so that we would be motivated to hunt for food and have sex. Dopamine is a thirst that can never be fully quenched.

Therefore, it manipulates large business owners into going to whatever lengths they can to make that extra dollar, even if it means deceiving or harming everyone else. The power of the dopamine craving is intense enough to remove our moral compass. Business owners know what catastrophic events they are causing just to get richer, but the drive for more money allows them to sleep at night with no guilt.


Yeah im tripping sorry for drawing this out but the only relevant fact is that we obviously can't change this fucked up place, but understanding it brings comfort, because it all makes perfect sense. The only way to be happy is to fulfill your purpose. Everyone has one, some follow it and some let it slip away because they got caught in the world's grasp





how can you define your purpose in a non-purposeful existence? im not a believer and i dont follow a religion. i know we came from somewhere but have no fucking clue what it is. how can i find a purpose, one with a strong conviction from my side?




You don't have to believe in God to believe we all have a purpose. This whole system called life is far too complex and fragile to be an accident imo. Even scientists have come to a general consensus that "something" had guided this system from the beginning. Some scientists believe that everything has already occured, were just playing along in current time. (something along those lines)

Believe it or not, you as an individual can change a lot more than the world around you. It's called the Butterfly Effect. Small events lead to huge changes, and I believe we all have a part to play.


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    #19042235 - 10/27/13 07:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Apollop, its up to you. You can define right however you wish.

When I wrote right I was relying on the assumption that the end of dukkha (suffering, unsatisfactoriness, stress, depression, etc.) is the goal. Which agrees with how I started my post, where I said that waking up doesn't need to suck.

I'm not into truth and inherent purpose/meaning, so if that's what you're after I don't know where to start! lol.


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yeah I understand that. The world is depressing but its all because people are so deceived. It's all a result of our instincts and our innate behavior, which modifies our rational conscience behavior.

cigarette, cocaine or heroin addiction is a model of how money and power effects our brains. You take a line of heroin, you feel an intense rush of pleasure as a result of the increase in dopamine. That pleasure is what all humans are wired by nature to strive for in never satisfying amounts, so that we would be motivated to hunt for food and have sex. Dopamine is a thirst that can never be fully quenched.

Therefore, it manipulates large business owners into going to whatever lengths they can to make that extra dollar, even if it means deceiving or harming everyone else. The power of the dopamine craving is intense enough to remove our moral compass. Business owners know what catastrophic events they are causing just to get richer, but the drive for more money allows them to sleep at night with no guilt.


Yeah im tripping sorry for drawing this out but the only relevant fact is that we obviously can't change this fucked up place, but understanding it brings comfort, because it all makes perfect sense. The only way to be happy is to fulfill your purpose. Everyone has one, some follow it and some let it slip away because they got caught in the world's grasp





how can you define your purpose in a non-purposeful existence? im not a believer and i dont follow a religion. i know we came from somewhere but have no fucking clue what it is. how can i find a purpose, one with a strong conviction from my side?




You don't have to believe in God to believe we all have a purpose. This whole system called life is far too complex and fragile to be an accident imo. Even scientists have come to a general consensus that "something" had guided this system from the beginning. Some scientists believe that everything has already occured, were just playing along in current time. (something along those lines)

Believe it or not, you as an individual can change a lot more than the world around you. It's called the Butterfly Effect. Small events lead to huge changes, and I believe we all have a part to play.




can you please elaborate some more on the 'everything has occurred' part or tell me what to look up if i want to read more about this?


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    #19044050 - 10/28/13 02:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Apollop, its up to you. You can define right however you wish.

When I wrote right I was relying on the assumption that the end of dukkha (suffering, unsatisfactoriness, stress, depression, etc.) is the goal. Which agrees with how I started my post, where I said that waking up doesn't need to suck.

I'm not into truth and inherent purpose/meaning, so if that's what you're after I don't know where to start! lol.




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    #19044444 - 10/28/13 05:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Do you enjoy seeing other people as poor and pathetic?


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    #19044599 - 10/28/13 07:40 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

huh? i'm talking about all of us, about our existence. what's there to enjoy?


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    #19044632 - 10/28/13 08:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You wrote in the OP:

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the more of a nihilist i become
the more of the matrix i see
the more i see humans as poor and pathetic
waking up sucks.




Do you enjoy seeing this?


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    #19044728 - 10/28/13 08:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

of course not.


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    #19044738 - 10/28/13 08:51 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Then why do you do shrooms?


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    #19044746 - 10/28/13 08:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i do them because whatever they bring me is real, to me at least. whatever thoughts, realisations, changes, etc. are real, be it good or bad. and in general, the effects are mostly positive and they have positive changes/effects on my life and i will continue to them.

there are also a lot of things i do that i like for different reasons and dislike some characteristics/effects of. this is where you weigh the pros and cons and obviously i decide to do and continue doing shrooms regardless of what they bring.


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    #19044785 - 10/28/13 09:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i do them because whatever they bring me is real, to me at least. whatever thoughts, realisations, changes, etc. are real, be it good or bad. and in general, the effects are mostly positive and they have positive changes/effects on my life and i will continue to them.

Positive effects on your life is the following:

the more of a nihilist i become
the more of the matrix i see
the more i see humans as poor and pathetic
waking up sucks.

"Waking up sucks you say", then why chase it? For the mere sake of reality?

Who is the person that really sucks?


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    #19046182 - 10/28/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Did these 3 points strike you as positive effects or something? Is the sake of reality not a good enuf thing to chase? Do u just want to argue for the sake of arguing?


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    #19046203 - 10/28/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Did these 3 points strike you as positive effects or something?

There are 4 statements made by you and it certainly seems like they're positive to you or else I wonder why you consume shrooms. Regardless of their "positive sides", these 4 statements seems gruesome.

Is the sake of reality not a good enuf thing to chase?

Is psilocybin the answer to reality?

Do u just want to argue for the sake of arguing?

Why would you think I do that?


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    #19046545 - 10/28/13 03:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

1. Yes, these statemenrs are gruesome but there are positive statements I left out because this post was about the negative ones :wink:
2. I'm simply using the words that YOU introduced to this thread. And yes, if it's bringing me closer to a general reality then they are a tool but not the answer. I am not looking for an answer because there is no answer.
3. That's the impression I got after noticing that your comments are kind of irrelevant, and I apologize if I got the wrong impression.


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    #19046564 - 10/28/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

1. Yes, these statemenrs are gruesome but there are positive statements I left out because this post was about the negative ones :wink:

Waking up sucks you say, what goes above waking up or awareness?

2. I'm simply using the words that YOU introduced to this thread. And yes, if it's bringing me closer to a general reality then they are a tool but not the answer. I am not looking for an answer because there is no answer

Which words did I introduce to this thread?

If you're not looking for an answer, why don't you kill yourself and save humanity for your shit? This I would highly respect.

3. That's the impression I got after noticing that your comments are kind of irrelevant, and I apologize if I got the wrong impression.

Please elaborate why you would think I argue "just for the sake of it", if not your question is based on bogus.


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: liquidlounge]
    #19046753 - 10/28/13 03:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I no longer find a reason or need to reply to you so im gonna go ahead and start ignoring you. I do find you entertaining though so I might get back to you later when I'm bored.


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Apollop]
    #19046973 - 10/28/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I no longer find a reason or need to reply to you so im gonna go ahead and start ignoring you.

Reality suck.


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: liquidlounge]
    #19049538 - 10/28/13 10:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

what you see is still a dream, keep bleating sheep the food is a trojan horse! the reptilians got you "by the balls" and the clockwork elves arent here to save you The Architect wont step in


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: tokerL]
    #19049742 - 10/28/13 11:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I dont think its the shrroms brothers I think youre using the shrooms as a scapegoat sub-consciously. Maybe you're naturally becoming depressed. Theres no reason for that though brother life is such a beautiful thing and every human has so much energy and mystery to offer. smile man life is beautiful!


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Brain Melter]
    #19049769 - 10/28/13 11:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I've heard people say the same thing about many other drugs, not just entheogens.

OP, what you describe is only a facade held up by your views on the world. In reality, this planet posses all that is good and evil, it sounds like you are choosing to only see the evil.

Open your eyes and mind to all that is love, surround yourself with people of the same mind set and your walls WILL come down.

As an old friend who has passed on once told me

"you cannot surround yourself with negative people and expect to live a positive life"


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Brain Melter]
    #19049795 - 10/28/13 11:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

(I hate to get personal and corny but you sound like you need a little help)I felt the same way as you when I was around 15. Nothing was going right for me I got locked up, all my friends were turning into heroin addicts, my family was deep in poverty, my father was out of work and hopped up on painkillers because of his injury, girl problems etc. I felt truly alone and everyday I woke up I would think just about getting through my day so I could fall back asleep and ignore the pain and shit. The one thing that helped me was contributing to society honestly. I was forced to do community service at first by the law, but then I started to do things to help people on my own and it took away my lonely feeling. Things really took a turn for the best when I left the city to go work at a summer camp in the woods with kids of all ages. The kids looked up to me so much and just playing sports with them or giving them advice on life meant the world to them and made me feel like I was apart of the rest of society. They were just kids from other parts of the city who didnt know me as anyone other than a their counselor for 2 weeks. They didnt know that the previous year I was a robbing and fighting punk who didnt give a shit about dying or anything other than drugs and money. Honestly I had even forgotten who I had been not long before going away...it was like a clean slate and when I got home I felt like a new person and I actually felt like a man for once who could handle responsibility. Moral of the story, the reason you feel lonely is because you are living for yourself, and thats not how a perfect world functions


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Brain Melter]
    #19049805 - 10/28/13 11:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

And liquid lounge, you should never suggest somebody kill themselves. Thats just as much of a cowardice move than the guy killing himself because you aren't willing to help. Suicide is a very serious thing I can get personal on that subject as well but everybody needs to focus on positives. Hope I helped a little bit brother! :smile:


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Brain Melter]
    #19050260 - 10/29/13 03:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

OP, I feel the same a lot of the time. However you should know there is A LOT you can do.

The feeling you have is IMO from a failure on your end to actually integrate your visions in immediate reality in your life. You live in Egypt. You still have around you the ruins of a great civilization that once was, that put great emphasis on its beliefs and religion, made astonishing temples and pyramids, linked their gods with mathematics, buildings, art, rituals, clothing, everything.

Have you done any of that with your trips? Implement what the visions show you? It's hard to do it alone, so that's why it's good to meet and befriend other trippers. Like psy festivals. Rainbow gatherings and so on. Have you been to one of these yet?

Also, there are group ceremonies. I've only been to the Santo Daime, and it's a life changer, to trip well in an organized event like that. I don't know what you have closest to where you live, but do search for them. Have you done anything like that yet? If not, please do, otherwise your solo tripping is only likely to get you more alienated from normal clearhead society. It's like drinking alone by yourself, if you don't integrate it with people, activities and real objects in your life, you become estranged from them. Before you know you'll be a weird loner.

What I've seen from my trips is at least the potential of what we all COULD do, if we play our cards right. We could have harmony. We could have great festivals again, in the mainstream. We could use psychedelics for science, religion, art, love, harmony, many useful things. But we have a lot of ignorance, apathy and straight up advertising noise to balance. Not fight and overpower, but intelligently integrate. The same way you tame a dog and use its aggression constructively, not just kill it.

We have to lead by example. It's not the alcohol-infused coffee-driven office drones that will lead the way. It's on us to do it, or if we don't do it, nobody will.

Connect with other trippers, find others and trip and work with them for a better life, it's the best advice I can give you. Change your room with nice psychedelic art you feel good about. If you can't find it make it. It helps!

Good vibes :heart:


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Apollop]
    #19050283 - 10/29/13 03:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Apollop said:
I no longer find a reason or need to reply to you so im gonna go ahead and start ignoring you. I do find you entertaining though so I might get back to you later when I'm bored.




you sir are a pathetic Ego tripper:fasted: Someone needs to bitch slap the shit out of you:baaaam:
This can be done with shrooms too.


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Apollop]
    #19050916 - 10/29/13 08:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The more i figure out the more i want too shake motherfuckers out of their hypnosis

The more i get closer to God through good drugs the closer i get to the devil with bad drugs like heroin

The closer i get too finding out "the ultimate code to pandora's box" the closer i feel to death

The closer i feel to death the closer revolution is

The closer revolution is the closer i feel at peace


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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #19050955 - 10/29/13 08:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

we need the weak, to justify the strong..

OP I think you should really sit down and think "why do I trip?"

mushrooms can show you a side of hell that makes the devil cringe..

be careful, be focused


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Apollop]
    #19051311 - 10/29/13 10:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Apollop said:
the more of a nihilist i become
the more of the matrix i see
the more i see humans as poor and pathetic
waking up sucks.





You're not waking up if you think humans are poor and pathetic. We are fucking incredible.


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: AMPM]
    #19051433 - 10/29/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It's a depressing world, for everybody. We as individuals can complain, but together... Revolution.


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #19051466 - 10/29/13 11:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The closer i get too finding out "the ultimate code to pandora's box" the closer i feel to death




yea bro , been there 2012. :fasted: Fuck I thought that it was all over.

Iam pretty sure that finding the ultimate code you will DROP DEAD at the moment of your discovery:goodnews:

So DONT EVEN TRY TO FIND IT MOFO!:dawerp:


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: rikuni]
    #19052116 - 10/29/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

rikuni said:
Quote:

Apollop said:
I no longer find a reason or need to reply to you so im gonna go ahead and start ignoring you. I do find you entertaining though so I might get back to you later when I'm bored.




you sir are a pathetic Ego tripper:fasted: Someone needs to bitch slap the shit out of you:baaaam:
This can be done with shrooms too.




Care to explain why you're insulting me?


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Apollop]
    #19052185 - 10/29/13 02:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

the same thing happens to me! I feel like everything is a sinister joke and we are all puppets. but I can't stop laughing cause its so funny how easily deceived/controlled everyone is. or so it seems. everything seems like a means of brainwash sort of.  everything becomes one big conspiracy theory I guess haha.


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: acapuchinu]
    #19052556 - 10/29/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I get a completely different trip. I feel so huge. Like FUCK there is an ENTIRE universe out there full of all kinds of crazy stuff and I can get there by eating this mushroom that the Earth grew for me.


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