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Getting caught picking mushrooms?
    #19012632 - 10/22/13 08:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

What happens if someone sees you looking for mushrooms? Mushrooms grow everywhere in my region, but you don't see much people looking for them.
I was wondering what people tend to think when they see you examining mushrooms. Also, if police see you pick a mushroom, is it illegal even though it's not active? Do they have probable cause to search you?


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Re: Getting caught picking mushrooms? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19012787 - 10/22/13 09:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You need to worry much more about getting caught tresspassing, or regulations about picking in parks and such. It is not a crime to be interested in nature. In fact, it is a basic human trait that has enabled us to be where we are today.
Oh, the thought just occured to me, try explaning that to a dumb cop.
Pick all the different mushrooms you find, carry an audubon guide to mushrooms, anything to stress the point you are interested in the entire fungal kingdom.
Gather some acorns or wildflowers also.


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Re: Getting caught picking mushrooms? [Re: Rockhound]
    #19012821 - 10/22/13 09:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I can help. First it depends on where you are at. State parks may have some laws regulating mushroom hunting. Nationl forest you are supose to get a mushroom lhunting permit which is free usually at least it use to be. National park have a mixture of laws regarding that. On the East coast on a place called the Blueridge Natioanl Park Way which is a natianl park you are aloud to pick up to one bag of shrooms,nuts,berries per day. But in Yellow stone or Yosemtie you go to Jail for picking the shroom IN the New River Gorge natonal river your aloud to pick Morels during the season but no other mushroom.
If you look like you a mushroom nerd the cops may queston you but it is not illegal to pick edible. I supose it is not illeagal to pic P's but it ilegal to be in possestion of them. As far as Private Property. If it is not well marked go for it. If yu get caust looking for shrooms all they usually do is tell you to leave. Most property owners are more worred about Illeagal hunters with guns than mushroom hunters. The cops don't give a shit.  So be aware of Rangers though they like to see that little permit. My advise is to become very knowlegable about the shrooms. All of them not just active. I find that most people are more curiouse than supicouse when they see you hunting for shroom and its a way to get into some great conversations.


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Re: Getting caught picking mushrooms? [Re: Eddeee]
    #19013066 - 10/22/13 11:01 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the replies, cops usually don't seem to know much about mushrooms, a majority at least. I think the best chances of them walking off is if I try to be courteous and interested in what I'm doing. I just don't know what to do if I have a psilocybin containing mushroom on me, and they ask to search my pockets/book bag.


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Re: Getting caught picking mushrooms? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19013105 - 10/22/13 11:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Most cops do not know what fresh psilocybe mushrooms look like. They only know what a baggie full of dried ones looks like after they pull you over and search your car cause they smell weed. My experacne is if you get queston  you spew off some of the name of your cool finds yu have. They usually become intrested in the hobbie not if your breaking the law. Iwas caught with actives and edible mushrooms in a National park and i only got a ticket for collecting natural resorces in a national park . Cost me abut 150 bucks and of course they took all my mushies.


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Re: Getting caught picking mushrooms? [Re: Eddeee]
    #19013143 - 10/22/13 11:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I usually go by foot, there's lots of fields and pastures here. I usually get stoned before I hunt, but that's not much of a worry. I should be good to go as long as I don't act like a criminal :smirk:


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Re: Getting caught picking mushrooms? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19015361 - 10/22/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Anonymous said:
Thanks for the replies, cops usually don't seem to know much about mushrooms, a majority at least. I think the best chances of them walking off is if I try to be courteous and interested in what I'm doing. I just don't know what to do if I have a psilocybin containing mushroom on me, and they ask to search my pockets/book bag.





Easiest question ever!    Always politely decline all police searches, no matter what you have on you.

Police can not identify most mushrooms and use your body language and statements to tell them if it is illegal.  Exceptions are in places where psilocybin mushrooms are very common and the cops know what the local species look like because they have busted shroomers a hundred times.

If you pick every mushroom you see, and not just the actives you will have a lot better with the cop and a lot better luck in court if he ends up arresting you.

If you pick every mushroom you see and you do not know you have any psilocybin mushrooms, you should not get convicted if you happen to have a few because you did not satisfy the mens rea requirement of the drug law.

If a cop sees you picking mushrooms, do not try to hide them.  Wave a whole bunch of different species in his face and tell him a bunch of boring latin names.

Remember the jedi mind trick - these are not the droids you are looking for.


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Re: Getting caught picking mushrooms? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19027283 - 10/24/13 06:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The cops are just a big fucking gang now, time we stand up for ourselves!
If an officer ever stopped me for picking mushrooms I'd grab a mushroom and say
you see this fucking mushroom cop? DO YOU? well it comes from the earth, who the fuck are you
to tell me I can't fucking pick food that naturally grows from the earth?
and if he didn't let me go then I would handle the situation like I was getting kidnapped
by a corrupt gang member and ain't no way I'm letting some gang member take me away without a fight


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Re: Getting caught picking mushrooms? [Re: MystiqueMushroom]
    #19027427 - 10/24/13 06:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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MystiqueMushroom said:
The cops are just a big fucking gang now, time we stand up for ourselves!
If an officer ever stopped me for picking mushrooms I'd grab a mushroom and say
you see this fucking mushroom cop? DO YOU? well it comes from the earth, who the fuck are you
to tell me I can't fucking pick food that naturally grows from the earth?
and if he didn't let me go then I would handle the situation like I was getting kidnapped
by a corrupt gang member and ain't no way I'm letting some gang member take me away without a fight





I can't think of a worse way to handle that situation.


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Re: Getting caught picking mushrooms? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19027464 - 10/24/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: Getting caught picking mushrooms? [Re: MystiqueMushroom]
    #19035440 - 10/26/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Some advice from personal experience:

1. Best is to obtain permission from a land owner to hunt. If granted, not such a bad idea to get them a bottle of wine and a card at Christmas time.
2. Dress like a hiker; don't look like a sketchy motherfucker out there. I even heard of a guy that used to hunt in an orange vest, which I thought was pretty brilliant.
3. If questioned about "magic" mushrooms, I've had good results with the answer, "Those don't grow around here." It seems to put the minds of the cops at ease. You're either not looking for them, or ignorant of their presence; either way, you're not what they're looking for.
4. Put all finds in a nice mushroom basket. Carry Lincoff's field guide with you.
5. When carrying your finds home, bring some cellophane, produce container, and a nice bag. Wrap them up as if you'd bought them from a store, so that you don't have a grubby bag full of actives with a few worms wiggling around the bottom.
6. Make sure your car is nice and clean.
7. If you happen to have your mushroom knife in your hand when approached, put it away. Don't talk to the cops with a knife in your hand!

Funny story on #7: A cop approached me once, and asked me about what I was doing. I'd just found a beautiful patch of bicolor boletes; I was so excited that I wanted to show him. So what did I do? Whipped out my mushroom knife in a quick, practiced motion, to scratch the bottom, and show the cop how the pores bruise blue.

The officer jumped back and put his hand on his gun!!! :doh: I will repeat what he told me, so that you may learn from my experience: DON'T PULL A KNIFE OUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TO A COP!


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Re: Getting caught picking mushrooms? [Re: ch1ck3n.s0up]
    #19035717 - 10/26/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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ch1ck3n.s0up said:
Some advice from personal experience:

1. Best is to obtain permission from a land owner to hunt. If granted, not such a bad idea to get them a bottle of wine and a card at Christmas time.




Or a nice bottle of scotch :thumbup:

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2. Dress like a hiker; don't look like a sketchy motherfucker out there. I even heard of a guy that used to hunt in an orange vest, which I thought was pretty brilliant.




I carry a box of orange vests in my car for myself and my friends.

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3. If questioned about "magic" mushrooms, I've had good results with the answer, "Those don't grow around here." It seems to put the minds of the cops at ease. You're either not looking for them, or ignorant of their presence; either way, you're not what they're looking for.




I have had good luck with that line.  When I am in California I say "Those grow in Florida and Texas..."

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4. Put all finds in a nice mushroom basket.




In many parks mushroom picking is illegal and you'll get a ticket even for edibles.  In those places use a backpack, otherwise use a basket.  In national forests mushroom picking is usually allowed with a free permit, ask at the ranger station.

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5. When carrying your finds home, bring some cellophane, produce container, and a nice bag. Wrap them up as if you'd bought them from a store, so that you don't have a grubby bag full of actives with a few worms wiggling around the bottom.




Or a tackle box with a ton of different species, all forms and colors.  Polypores make you look especially innocent.  Tackle boxes make it easy to keep your collections separate from getting crushed.  I write the photo number that the camera assigns on a little slip of paper and put it in with each collection.  This makes them look nice and scientific, and will help you later when you need to figure out which dried specimens go with which photos.


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Re: Getting caught picking mushrooms? [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #19036926 - 10/26/13 06:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Since we are speaking on the subject what if you get caught mushroom hunting. I had and intresting and quite the scarey day mushroom hunting.  Went to one of my reuglar spots in the wildlife managment area. I parked at the camp ground which was closed  for the season,so I park there which is leagal. Took the dogs with me. So when I get back to my car I notce there are cops all over the place with  dogs. I count 6 of them. Two shepards a dobie and 3 Melenas. My dogs start going ape shit and there dogs start going ape shit. I finnally get my dogs in the car and I notced there is a sign they put up saying Police training excersze.
On of them come's up to me and  akd whats in the basket I tell him mushrooms and show him my finds and he;sl like neat. We talk a bit about mushrooms and he checks out some of my finds and tell me stuff like I see this one all the time. it was an oyster mushoom. I aske him what they were doing and he tell me there doing training exzersises with the dogs. Having them look for explosive and drugs and stuff  and im like cool. I watch them for a bit and there like hiding drugs in trash cans and places through the camp ground. I actually saw one of the bags and it was blue pills in it.  the dog Found the shit.  So finally he excuses him self  and i put the shroomies in the car. Get in it and start to drive away
and as im driving down the little road in the camp ground the same cop stops me for a second, motions to me to roll down the window. Then he tells me Oh by the way one of the dogs alerted on your car. and after pasuing for a momment  gets this a huge grin on his face and tells me to have a nice day. Gives me a little wave and motons to me move on.  And I was passing all the other cops they were looking at me likeintence. If Looks could kill, Serously hard looks.I was shitting bricks cause i was holding. Felt like a chicken in a fox den for a while but nothing happend except for a heart palpating adrinlin rush
Then on my way home There was Sherif behind me for a while. Oh man one of those days but  all is well made it home no problems And now im having shrooms for dinner .


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Re: Getting caught picking mushrooms? [Re: Eddeee]
    #19037102 - 10/26/13 06:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ha! They were fuckin' with you man... :lmafo:

Did you have any actives on you, or any herb in the vehicle?

Whadja find in your hunt? Any good edibles or interesting stuff?

btw that is a bad-ass pic in your sig man! Did you take that?


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Re: Getting caught picking mushrooms? [Re: ch1ck3n.s0up]
    #19037122 - 10/26/13 06:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Both, And where Im at. BAD BAD BAD  The cop actually picked up a gym and asked what it was and I told him it was a homey mushroom  and he's like neat. Im still feelin it the parnoia a bit. like a rush Think I'll have another beer.
Found some Gyms, Oysters,Late fall Oystersm Resinous polypoor which I luv. and some LBM in a spot where last month I foud onver 100 P. caerulipes groiwng under an old beechlog.


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Re: Getting caught picking mushrooms? [Re: ch1ck3n.s0up]
    #19037190 - 10/26/13 07:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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btw that is a bad-ass pic in your sig man! Did you take that?





That is Spooky Tree. It on my property.


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Re: Getting caught picking mushrooms? [Re: Eddeee]
    #19037298 - 10/26/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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btw that is a bad-ass pic in your sig man! Did you take that?





That is Spooky Tree. It on my property.



Reminds me of a stump that was in my parents backyard, was like 10ft tall, and was burned from the fires we had under it, anyways there was an evil face burned into it and gave some bad vibes, had to cut the guy down


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Re: Getting caught picking mushrooms? [Re: MystiqueMushroom]
    #19037308 - 10/26/13 07:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

This tree  grows Oyster mushrooms. I think it might be an old chestnut tree. Its compleatly hallowed out and one day im sure it going to go down on its own.


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Re: Getting caught picking mushrooms? [Re: Eddeee]
    #19037707 - 10/26/13 08:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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btw that is a bad-ass pic in your sig man! Did you take that?




That is Spooky Tree. It on my property.




:aaaargh:


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