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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: psi]
#19037520 - 10/26/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You never answered my question though. Did Jesus believe that taking money through taxation was theft? And if he did, what did he mean by "give to Caesar what is Ceasar's?"
strawman argument
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: JesusIsLord] 1
#19037526 - 10/26/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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JesusIsLord said:
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You never answered my question though. Did Jesus believe that taking money through taxation was theft? And if he did, what did he mean by "give to Caesar what is Ceasar's?"
strawman argument 
So you've got nothing.
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: JesusIsLord]
#19037535 - 10/26/13 08:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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JesusIsLord said:
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You never answered my question though. Did Jesus believe that taking money through taxation was theft? And if he did, what did he mean by "give to Caesar what is Ceasar's?"
strawman argument 
How is it a strawman argument? I'm not attributing any argument to you, I'm asking what you think Jesus believed.
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: JesusIsLord]
#19037547 - 10/26/13 08:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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What question are you referring to? I did not know Jesus and nothing in the bible was written by him and only appeared many many years later.
I believe I provided the employment statistics regarding part time work and low workforce participation rates. 100% of me is going to lose his health insurance along with several million others come the new year. Thousands of doctors have been kicked of the Medicare advantage provider list.
Just stop.
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: psi]
#19037561 - 10/26/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ah nevermind it's tu quoquo. I'm not answering you because that's not relevant to the topic in addition to the answer being completely self evident.
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: zappaisgod]
#19037563 - 10/26/13 08:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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you know, Obama Hitler is really what America needs. he just needs to stop trying to be a nice guy and start shackling and murdering and throwing away the bodies of people whom are hogging up all of your intentions, of wealth and health, and just you know... put it out there.
America is not free! say it loud and proud!
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: zappaisgod]
#19037573 - 10/26/13 08:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: What question are you referring to? I did not know Jesus and nothing in the bible was written by him and only appeared many many years later.
I believe I provided the employment statistics regarding part time work and low workforce participation rates. 100% of me is going to lose his health insurance along with several million others come the new year. Thousands of doctors have been kicked of the Medicare advantage provider list.
Just stop.
assuming you aren't replying to me, zap
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: akira_akuma]
#19037577 - 10/26/13 08:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: zappaisgod]
#19037590 - 10/26/13 08:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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yikes. see, you guys have a crisis.
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: zappaisgod]
#19037593 - 10/26/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You mean Reagan phones?
Q: Has the Obama administration started a program to use "taxpayer money" to give free cell phones to welfare recipients?
A: No. Low-income households have been eligible for discounted telephone service for more than a decade. But the program is funded by telecom companies, not by taxes, and the president has nothing to do with it.
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: skatealex2]
#19037598 - 10/26/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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This forced government healthcare is fucking bullshit. All it does is fucks over people.
My best friend was paying ~$120 a month for his healthcare (through his job) and had pretty premium coverage. He got a letter in the mail a few weeks ago saying his plan did not "qualify" for the new obamacare bullshit, and as such his premium was being raised to $260 a month. He has no choice in the matter. It's either that, or sign up for obamacare's overpriced bullshit.
My girl owns her own business and had her own private insurance and got a similar letter. Saying she had to find a different plan, or pay the ridiculous fucking fine, or sign up for obamacare.
I have TOP NOTCH health care through my job that is completely paid for by the company.... But I'm just waiting to get fucked over on that too.
FUCK THIS BULLSHIT. I didn't vote for this shit.. no one did.
Affordable care act my ass. More like ridiculously overpriced bullshit to fuck over the middle class and fine anyone that doesn't comply. It fucks over people who ALREADY HAVE INSURANCE.
Fucking cocksucker Obama
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: JesusIsLord]
#19037599 - 10/26/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: What question are you referring to? I did not know Jesus and nothing in the bible was written by him and only appeared many many years later.
I believe I provided the employment statistics regarding part time work and low workforce participation rates. 100% of me is going to lose his health insurance along with several million others come the new year. Thousands of doctors have been kicked of the Medicare advantage provider list.
Just stop.
assuming you aren't replying to me, zap 
Yeah. I got lost in a page jump. I assume anybody reading the thread can figure it out
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: akira_akuma]
#19037600 - 10/26/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: you know, Obama Hitler is really what America needs. he just needs to stop trying to be a nice guy and start shackling and murdering and throwing away the bodies of people whom are hogging up all of your intentions, of wealth and health, and just you know... put it out there.
America is not free! say it loud and proud!
Akira is entering a new dimension. There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: zappaisgod]
#19037624 - 10/26/13 08:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: What question are you referring to? I did not know Jesus and nothing in the bible was written by him and only appeared many many years later.
I believe I provided the employment statistics regarding part time work and low workforce participation rates. 100% of me is going to lose his health insurance along with several million others come the new year. Thousands of doctors have been kicked of the Medicare advantage provider list.
Just stop.
That's because Medicare Advantage is an extremely wasteful program.
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: JesusIsLord]
#19037631 - 10/26/13 08:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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JesusIsLord said: Ah nevermind it's tu quoquo. I'm not answering you because that's not relevant to the topic in addition to the answer being completely self evident. 
OK, no problem, I won't hold it against you if you're not willing to articulate how your views on this matter relate to Jesus's teachings. As you say it is off-topic for this discussion (sort of.)
IMO Jesus was obviously not opposed to taxation, or to giving money to the poor voluntarily. I don't personally believe he would change his position on taxation to "it's theft" if some of that money was given to the poor. Who knows though, I didn't know the guy.
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: zappaisgod]
#19037635 - 10/26/13 08:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: What question are you referring to? I did not know Jesus and nothing in the bible was written by him and only appeared many many years later.
I believe I provided the employment statistics regarding part time work and low workforce participation rates. 100% of me is going to lose his health insurance along with several million others come the new year. Thousands of doctors have been kicked of the Medicare advantage provider list.
Just stop.
assuming you aren't replying to me, zap 
Yeah. I got lost in a page jump. I assume anybody reading the thread can figure it out
You would think. But I wouldn't make too many assumptions at this point
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19037644 - 10/26/13 08:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: What question are you referring to? I did not know Jesus and nothing in the bible was written by him and only appeared many many years later.
I believe I provided the employment statistics regarding part time work and low workforce participation rates. 100% of me is going to lose his health insurance along with several million others come the new year. Thousands of doctors have been kicked of the Medicare advantage provider list.
Just stop.
That's because Medicare Advantage is an extremely wasteful program.
Medicare advantage was paid for by the people who subscribed. No government tit at all. Whatever was wasteful about it was the subscribers' problem and none of your business. Thousands and thousands of people who have to switch doctors. So much for "if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor."
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: JesusIsLord]
#19037653 - 10/26/13 08:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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JesusIsLord said:
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zappaisgod said: What question are you referring to? I did not know Jesus and nothing in the bible was written by him and only appeared many many years later.
I believe I provided the employment statistics regarding part time work and low workforce participation rates. 100% of me is going to lose his health insurance along with several million others come the new year. Thousands of doctors have been kicked of the Medicare advantage provider list.
Just stop.
assuming you aren't replying to me, zap 
Yeah. I got lost in a page jump. I assume anybody reading the thread can figure it out
You would think. But I wouldn't make too many assumptions at this point 
It's late and I'm tired. If I need to I'll fix it tomorrow
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: Shroomism]
#19037674 - 10/26/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: This forced government healthcare is fucking bullshit. All it does is fucks over people.
My best friend was paying ~$120 a month for his healthcare (through his job) and had pretty premium coverage. He got a letter in the mail a few weeks ago saying his plan did not "qualify" for the new obamacare bullshit, and as such his premium was being raised to $260 a month. He has no choice in the matter. It's either that, or sign up for obamacare's overpriced bullshit.
My girl owns her own business and had her own private insurance and got a similar letter. Saying she had to find a different plan, or pay the ridiculous fucking fine, or sign up for obamacare.
I have TOP NOTCH health care through my job that is completely paid for by the company.... But I'm just waiting to get fucked over on that too.
FUCK THIS BULLSHIT. I didn't vote for this shit.. no one did.
Affordable care act my ass. More like ridiculously overpriced bullshit to fuck over the middle class and fine anyone that doesn't comply. It fucks over people who ALREADY HAVE INSURANCE.
Fucking cocksucker Obama
i do believe there are lots of people in America, that would disagree with you. so hence, deal with it, until Obama's iron fisted reign is over. you or anyone else complaining isn't going to change the facts of the matter. it's happening. it sucks for some people, and helps others who are in need. no matter how you argue it... whether you don't think they deserve it or not; it's for THOSE people, and it was voted in legitimately.
legitimate, unless your countrymen's system of politics, of course, needs an entire overhaul of how it's run. but you could have said that from the very beginning of it's inception. 
it's how your system works... mistakes might happen, but you have to wait until those who voted and won, get their due. that's how it works.
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: akira_akuma]
#19037734 - 10/26/13 08:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Medicare advantage was paid for by the people who subscribed. No government tit at all.
Um, what?
"Medicare pays a fixed amount for your care each month to the companies offering Medicare Advantage Plans. These companies must follow rules set by Medicare."
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