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Ayahuasca or peyote?
    #19037587 - 10/26/13 08:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ok, so I'm looking to have my first heavy visual and spiritual experience. Should I do DMT OR mescaline? I want to stick with peyote or ayahuasca. My wife will be doing this as well so with that said which one should we do first that is lighter and not gonna make us flip the fuck out?


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Re: Ayahuasca or peyote? [Re: Heisenburn]
    #19037750 - 10/26/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ayahuasca is not dmt it is the caapi vine. I would do mescaline. Then move up to dmt imho.

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Re: Ayahuasca or peyote? [Re: MystiqueMushroom]
    #19037800 - 10/26/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I know that ayahuasca is a brew, the vine being an maoi inhibitor and the leaf containing the DMT. I just don't know which one to do first DMT or mescaline....


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Re: Ayahuasca or peyote? [Re: Heisenburn]
    #19037831 - 10/26/13 08:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Ok, so I'm looking to have my first heavy visual and spiritual experience. Should I do DMT OR mescaline? I want to stick with peyote or ayahuasca. My wife will be doing this as well so with that said which one should we do first that is lighter and not gonna make us flip the fuck out?





What is you and your wife's previous experience with psychedelics?


Do you actually have a way of getting peyote specifically?....That's pretty hard to come by unless you're in the right circles.



I highly suggest going with mescaline first. It doesn't sound like you quite know what you'll be getting your self into as far as ayahuasca goes. Have you dabbled with smoked DMT before?



In comparison to the other classic psychedelics, I'd say mescaline is the most gentle and easiest going psychedelic out there. With ayahuasca generally being at the opposite end of the spectrum.






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Re: Ayahuasca or peyote? [Re: openmind]
    #19037962 - 10/26/13 09:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The only real psychedelics we've done are cubes and pan cyan shrooms. You make mescaline sound good so I'll go ahead and go with that. As far as being in the right circle, you have to make your own circle then you won't need to go looking for one. I think you follow where this is going.


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Re: Ayahuasca or peyote? [Re: Heisenburn]
    #19037988 - 10/26/13 09:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ayahuasca is something you don't wanna take lightly.
If you can state clear intentions, and be ready to die to heal and learn, you're ok.
If not, avoid.


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Re: Ayahuasca or peyote? [Re: Oeric McKenna]
    #19038007 - 10/26/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I've been reading for years on ayahuasca and it's pretty scary shit. I'll most def go with peyote for what I'm seeking. Is ayahuasca an inter dimensional trip? That's what I've been able to gather from all my reading about ayahuasca.


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Re: Ayahuasca or peyote? [Re: Heisenburn]
    #19038043 - 10/26/13 09:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'd go with san pedro cactus instead of peyote


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Re: Ayahuasca or peyote? [Re: Melkor]
    #19038055 - 10/26/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah T. bridgesii


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Re: Ayahuasca or peyote? [Re: Oeric McKenna]
    #19038077 - 10/26/13 09:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah buts that's a lot more material to have to extract the mescaline from correct?


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Re: Ayahuasca or peyote? [Re: Heisenburn]
    #19038083 - 10/26/13 09:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well the cactus can be pretty big but it has a higher % of mescaline than peyote does


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Re: Ayahuasca or peyote? [Re: Melkor]
    #19038101 - 10/26/13 09:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Oh yeah and I agree with oeric, might as well go with bridgesii


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Re: Ayahuasca or peyote? [Re: Melkor]
    #19038129 - 10/26/13 09:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Oh my fucking God, another person who thinks there's ANY advantage to doing an extraction on cactus!! no one knows there's an easy way to straight up eat raw cactus!!


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Re: Ayahuasca or peyote? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #19038168 - 10/26/13 09:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I just want a simple sure fire way of a lot of visuals and a spiritual experience for my wife and I that is all natural that won't damage our psyches. I don't know ANYthing about this subject obviously why I'm here asking questions......... People on this forum are so fucking prude.



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Oh my fucking God, another person who thinks there's ANY advantage to doing an extraction on cactus!! no one knows there's an easy way to straight up eat raw cactus!!




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Re: Ayahuasca or peyote? [Re: Heisenburn]
    #19038197 - 10/26/13 09:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Please learn to write before you post something and look completely ignorant as well........ Your sentence should have been structured better so your argument had some validity to it, but it doesn't because your ignorance cancels out your little bit of intelligence that you do harbor in that pea sized fucking brain you swine.


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Re: Ayahuasca or peyote? [Re: Heisenburn]
    #19038214 - 10/26/13 10:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I don't know what that guy's deal is.  I couldn't really understand what he said anyway, lol

Check out some of the teks for prepping cactus and make your choice.  Peyote would certainly be easier but I can't speak for it, never tried it.  Boiling the cactus isn't difficult, just takes a while


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Re: Ayahuasca or peyote? [Re: Heisenburn]
    #19038230 - 10/26/13 10:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm sorry but that pressure had been building for some time from people like him on this forum. I guess a lot of people are still learning to read and write. It's ok, I remember when I was in 3rd grade. Anyways yes I will do whatever someone with knowledge in this subject suggests as long as it doesn't harm us. I am all about quality or quantity so fire way sir.


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    #19038266 - 10/26/13 10:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Dude, chill out. What I meant was, just dry it out in a dehydrator, scissor it up into tiny pieces, and take a few spoonfuls of that shit and chug it with swigs of pop. Anyone telling you to boil or extract anything from cactus is an asshole.


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Re: Ayahuasca or peyote? [Re: Heisenburn]
    #19038273 - 10/26/13 10:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Heisen your being a bit of a prick, that guy wasnt being rude just suggesting you can eat the cactus instead of extract it and have an easier time doing it.


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Re: Ayahuasca or peyote? [Re: MystiqueMushroom]
    #19038301 - 10/26/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ok that is not what you said but I'll let ya cover your tracks. I'm sorry for being a prick but it's just really annoying when people don't speak clearly on what they mean. It happens soooooo much here it's like people are still tripping when they post a reply.


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