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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: akira_akuma]
#19037365 - 10/26/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: here come the idiots.
"omg everything worked fine! except when everyone noted that it wasn't working fine, but to me it did, and i can say it's true and it's true for me! so fuck you!1 WAH WAH wAH~!~!"
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joe666 said: so you support fucking up the system that worked just fine for 85% so 15% could have cheap health care available to them that they may not even want?
hark, a voice of reason
hark, a parrot!1
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JesusIsLord said: this is entertaining watching you try to twist facts to suit your argument 
sorry, but twisting facts, is not what he's doing here. 
true, true
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: JesusIsLord]
#19037366 - 10/26/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Also Obama's policies can have a significant effect on the economy so it seems worth bringing up.
Yet, you make no mention of how something like this affects the economy, you simply made some shit up about "from what I've seen Obamacare looks like it's going to cause a lot of damage to the economy and healthcare system"
Yeah, I see this shit on Fox News and Breitbart daily. It doesn't mean it's right just because you've "seen" some shit.
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JesusIsLord said: so is the facepalm your attempt to refute the statement? or is it that your defense of socialism has such a weak foundation you won't dare stand on it? 
In a nutshell, the PPACA is the furthest thing from socialism/communism as universal health care could be.
Besides that, you're a self proclaimed "Jesus freak," and you don't like socialism? Jesus was a fucking socialist.
that's pretty funny. Jesus was a capitalist - give a man a fish he'll eat for a day (dumbass socialists). Teach a man to fish (make him work and earn his living) and he'll eat for a lifetime.
But keep going, this is entertaining watching you try to twist facts to suit your argument 
Jesus was most definitely a communist.
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19037390 - 10/26/13 07:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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JesusIsLord said:that's pretty funny. Jesus was a capitalist - give a man a fish he'll eat for a day (dumbass socialists). Teach a man to fish (make him work and earn his living) and he'll eat for a lifetime.
But keep going, this is entertaining watching you try to twist facts to suit your argument 
First, http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/give-a-man-a-fish.html
Second. Jesus fed the poor for free. He healed the sick for free. He told people to care for one another.
Matthew 19:21
Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”
So your retort is to post a link for the literal translation? What, can't handle someone paraphrasing the same thing 
Giving to the poor is not socialism. Giving to the poor can occur in any economic model.
However, having someone in authority taking something you earned, involuntarily, and giving it to someone else, is what's known as theft.
Try again
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akira_akuma
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: King Klick]
#19037396 - 10/26/13 07:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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gotta love the media getting people behind stories and "facts", that are suited to their political backing, and solely to create conflict instead of any actual consensus of real factual truths.
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However, having someone in authority taking something you earned, involuntarily, and giving it to someone else, is what's known as theft.
you realize what Authority means, right? you might wanna, you know... take up this discussion with all American people. considering you're all under the same fucking federally maintained roof. just sayin'.
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19037412 - 10/26/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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JesusIsLord said:that's pretty funny. Jesus was a capitalist - give a man a fish he'll eat for a day (dumbass socialists). Teach a man to fish (make him work and earn his living) and he'll eat for a lifetime.
But keep going, this is entertaining watching you try to twist facts to suit your argument 
First, http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/give-a-man-a-fish.html
Second. Jesus fed the poor for free. He healed the sick for free. He told people to care for one another.
Matthew 19:21
Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”
jesus wasnt the government demanding a tribute at the point of a sword to distribute amongst those that he deemed worthy such as the wealthy corporations, jesus asked people to give and gave himself.
he suggested people sell their stuff to buy swords and had his gang steal a donkey
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: JesusIsLord]
#19037421 - 10/26/13 07:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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JesusIsLord said: However, having someone in authority taking something you earned, involuntarily, and giving it to someone else, is what's known as theft.
Taxation is theft? Then what did Jesus mean by "give to Caesar what is Caesar's?"
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#19037425 - 10/26/13 07:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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no one is at swords length of anything. you know, with this kinda rhetoric, you might as well be Muslim.
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: zappaisgod]
#19037426 - 10/26/13 07:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: I actually checked the link Yahoo gave.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf
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The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons (sometimes referred to as involuntary part-time workers) was unchanged at 7.9 million in September.
And? That means that the changes happened in non-economic part time sector which is defined as "Refers to persons who usually work part time for noneconomic reasons such as childcare problems, family or personal obligations, school or training, retirement or Social Security limits on earnings, and other reasons."
So economic part time stayed the same. Non-economic part time dropped. Full time employment increased.
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: akira_akuma]
#19037427 - 10/26/13 07:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: gotta love the media getting people behind stories and "facts", that are suited to their political backing, and solely to create conflict instead of any actual consensus of real factual truths.
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However, having someone in authority taking something you earned, involuntarily, and giving it to someone else, is what's known as theft.
you realize what Authority means, right? you might wanna, you know... take up this discussion with all American people. considering you're all under the same fucking federal maintained roof. just sayin'.
go on.
i know bout authorita
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: JesusIsLord]
#19037434 - 10/26/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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it's not theft, if the authority says it isn't. you all in America had it collectively voted in. deal with it. or find a new proclamation of authority.
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: psi]
#19037439 - 10/26/13 07:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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JesusIsLord said: However, having someone in authority taking something you earned, involuntarily, and giving it to someone else, is what's known as theft.
Taxation is theft? Then what did Jesus mean by "give to Caesar what is Caesar's?"
really? i mean, really?
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: akira_akuma]
#19037445 - 10/26/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: it's not theft, if the authority says it isn't. you all in America had it collectively voted in. deal with it. or find a new proclamation of authority.
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: JesusIsLord]
#19037450 - 10/26/13 07:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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JesusIsLord said: However, having someone in authority taking something you earned, involuntarily, and giving it to someone else, is what's known as theft.
Taxation is theft? Then what did Jesus mean by "give to Caesar what is Caesar's?"
really? i mean, really?
Yes, really. What did he mean?
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: psi]
#19037467 - 10/26/13 07:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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JesusIsLord said: However, having someone in authority taking something you earned, involuntarily, and giving it to someone else, is what's known as theft.
Taxation is theft? Then what did Jesus mean by "give to Caesar what is Caesar's?"
I don't think the Romans had welfare
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: zappaisgod]
#19037475 - 10/26/13 07:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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They certainly did have taxes though.
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: zappaisgod]
#19037477 - 10/26/13 07:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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JesusIsLord said: However, having someone in authority taking something you earned, involuntarily, and giving it to someone else, is what's known as theft.
Taxation is theft? Then what did Jesus mean by "give to Caesar what is Caesar's?"
I don't think the Romans had welfare
they fed christians to lions that they housed for free, close enough
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: zappaisgod]
#19037482 - 10/26/13 07:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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JesusIsLord said: However, having someone in authority taking something you earned, involuntarily, and giving it to someone else, is what's known as theft.
Taxation is theft? Then what did Jesus mean by "give to Caesar what is Caesar's?"
I don't think the Romans had welfare
THANK you.
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#19037486 - 10/26/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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JesusIsLord said: However, having someone in authority taking something you earned, involuntarily, and giving it to someone else, is what's known as theft.
Taxation is theft? Then what did Jesus mean by "give to Caesar what is Caesar's?"
I don't think the Romans had welfare
they fed christians to lions that they housed for free, close enough
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: JesusIsLord]
#19037497 - 10/26/13 07:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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JesusIsLord said: However, having someone in authority taking something you earned, involuntarily, and giving it to someone else, is what's known as theft.
Taxation is theft? Then what did Jesus mean by "give to Caesar what is Caesar's?"
I don't think the Romans had welfare
THANK you. 
You never answered my question though. Did Jesus believe that taking money through taxation was theft? And if he did, what did he mean by "give to Caesar what is Ceasar's?"
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Re: Is Obamacare raping us? [Re: JesusIsLord]
#19037513 - 10/26/13 08:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Notice: nobody here has an argument here that can be backed up by statistics to say Obamacare is already "raping" us.
psi, he won't answer your question, because he cannot without realizing that he is wrong.
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