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lemonjello
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Are these Amanitas?
#19037331 - 10/26/13 07:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Habitat: I was too excited to shoot these before I picked them, but here is another of the more yellow ones that is way less mature than the ones I picked. Not a great picture. I saw some of these growing in the sand or sandy grass. All of the ones I picked were just beyond the sand closer to the woods off a river in Portland, OR.

Gills: White gills, appear to be "free" (I am an amateur and as such, I am still learning)
Stem: 5-6", thick (not hollow)
Cap: Two were more yellowish, one more orange.
Spore print color: I have not yet done a spore print.
Bruising: One of the more yellowish ones has shown some yellow bruising on the stem
Species #1: This one seems to fit the description of A. Muscaria. It has a bulbous ending to the stem and has that classic look. I'd appreciate someone confirming this is indeed A. Muscaria because I would like to ingest at some point in the future (after drying - probably as a tea)
Top of Cap:

Gills:

Species #2: Unfortunately, I did not manage to get the stem for this one. Must have fallen out of my bag. However, it looks very similar to #3.
Cap:

Gills:

Species #3: This one and #2 have a different color (more yellow and less orange) than species #1 and so I am unsure if they are the same species and just in a different stage of development. The stem is still attached and you can see it does not have the bulbous quality of the first species. Any idea if any of these are A. Muscaria or an edible variety of the Amanitas?
Cap:

Gills and stem:

Here is a family shot, so you can see the contrast between them all. #1 is at the top center, #2 is left, and #3 is right:

Thank you for any assistance! I am relatively new to Oregon and am so stoked about my recent hunts. I have so many pics I would love to post for IDs, but I thought this would be a good place to start because I have a hunch they are Amanitas. Are these Amanita Muscaria or are they a lookalike?
Thanks again!
Edited by lemonjello (10/26/13 08:57 PM)
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lemonjello
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Re: Are these Amanitas? [Re: lemonjello]
#19041254 - 10/27/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Anybody care to hazard a guess on the ID(s)?
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mahniti
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Re: Are these Amanitas? [Re: lemonjello]
#19041281 - 10/27/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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for first im not sure, for the rest its amanita muscaria probably var. persicina but wait for other opinions.
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User_7
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Re: Are these Amanitas? [Re: mahniti]
#19041558 - 10/27/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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#1 is muscaria 100%. Other ones probably are too, but wait for someone else on those. Check out this guide in the mean time.
It always helps with muscaria identification to photograph the whole stem base, pulled rather than cut out of the ground.
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paracelsus



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Re: Are these Amanitas? [Re: User_7]
#19041587 - 10/27/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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maybe Amanita muscaria var. guessowii 
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User_7
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Re: Are these Amanitas? [Re: paracelsus]
#19041607 - 10/27/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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If I remember correctly most experienced users on here say that the muscaria variants need a lot of reworking and therefore identifying to var. doesn't mean a lot.
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paracelsus



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Re: Are these Amanitas? [Re: User_7]
#19041621 - 10/27/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
User_7 said: If I remember correctly most experienced users on here say that the muscaria variants need a lot of reworking and therefore identifying to var. doesn't mean a lot.
Yes we borrow many European flavorsspecies names.True of many genus.
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Edited by paracelsus (10/27/13 04:44 PM)
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Bobzimmer
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Re: Are these Amanitas? [Re: User_7]
#19041641 - 10/27/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
User_7 said: If I remember correctly most experienced users on here say that the muscaria variants need a lot of reworking and therefore identifying to var. doesn't mean a lot.
Well they're useful to describe mushrooms; they just may not reveal their true relationships.
In Oregon I'm guessing that the first one is A. muscaria sunsp. flavivolvata. I can't venture a solid guess on the other two because I can't see the complete stems.
-------------------- Mr. Mushrooms said: I will confess something that should be quite obvious, CC. I love mushrooms, i.e. fungi. I really do. I am talking about a strong feeling, i.e. emotion, for them. I think they are beautiful. I even dream of them.
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