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s240779

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Interesting Buddhist proverb
#19036557 - 10/26/13 04:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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When the Buddha described how long humanity had been on the journey, as he spoke of reincarnation he talked of a mountain six miles wide, six miles high, six miles long. Every hundred years a bird would fly with a silk scarf in its beak and run it over the mountain once. The length of time it takes the scarf to wear away the mountain is the length of time you have been on the path.
Promises and Pitfalls of the Spiritual Path by Ram Dass Taken from Spiritual Emergency(compiled by Stanislav & Christina Grof)
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Re: Interesting Buddhist proverb [Re: s240779]
#19036564 - 10/26/13 04:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Go on...
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Re: Interesting Buddhist proverb [Re: s240779] 3
#19036582 - 10/26/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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What the fuck are you on? That doesn't sound interesting, it sounds like a bunch of mumbo jumbo.
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Re: Interesting Buddhist proverb [Re: Uzziel]
#19036589 - 10/26/13 05:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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made perfect sense to me.
we've been at this shit for a long ass time (?), and were gonna be at it for a long ass time more.
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how much fucking cocaine do they pay that bird?!?!?!?
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Re: Interesting Buddhist proverb [Re: stimpson]
#19036619 - 10/26/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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whose or whats a bird? a mountain? a ribbon? a Buddha?
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Quote:
Piecefillpath247 said: made perfect sense to me.
we've been at this shit for a long ass time (?), and were gonna be at it for a long ass time more.
So what drugs are you on that make sense of birds, mountains and silk and how it relates to reincarnation
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Re: Interesting Buddhist proverb [Re: Uzziel]
#19036638 - 10/26/13 05:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The last sentence explains how it relates. Did you really not understand it?
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Re: Interesting Buddhist proverb [Re: Uzziel]
#19036659 - 10/26/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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maybe we have different concepts of what reincarnation is 
symbols are funny things, help and hinder us, some kinda strange paradoxical duality built into the entirety or reality, its almost like were not even here at all
but that's just silly, i'm looking at my hand, typing on a keyboard, all evidence is in support of there being an individual I.
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Re: Interesting Buddhist proverb [Re: s240779]
#19036670 - 10/26/13 05:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Da2ra said: The last sentence explains how it relates. Did you really not understand it?
Of course, but does that make it any less mumbo jumbo than it is? No. Its just nonsense explaining nonsense.
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Re: Interesting Buddhist proverb [Re: Uzziel]
#19036674 - 10/26/13 05:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Uzziel said:
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Piecefillpath247 said: made perfect sense to me.
we've been at this shit for a long ass time (?), and were gonna be at it for a long ass time more.
So what drugs are you on that make sense of......
I find it funny that people on a drug website be little the use of druqs in a negative connotation,
but also druqs can make you batshit cRaZie
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Re: Interesting Buddhist proverb [Re: Uzziel]
#19036677 - 10/26/13 05:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Uzziel said:
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Da2ra said: The last sentence explains how it relates. Did you really not understand it?
Its just nonsense explaining nonsense.
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Piecefillpath247 said:
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Uzziel said:
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Piecefillpath247 said: made perfect sense to me.
we've been at this shit for a long ass time (?), and were gonna be at it for a long ass time more.
So what drugs are you on that make sense of......
I find it funny that people on a drug website be little the use of druqs in a negative connotation,
but also druqs can make you batshit cRaZie
This isn't a drug website, this is a mushroom forum.
Also, its sarcasm. Something that is hard to pick out on the interwebs.
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Re: Interesting Buddhist proverb [Re: Uzziel]
#19036709 - 10/26/13 05:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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sorry man, didnt mean it as an attack, just an observation about how en grained our societal perceptions about drugs are.
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Would take a bird a long ass time to wear away a mountain using a silk scarf and only sliding the scarf over once a 100 years.
This is how long we've been living and dying and that's what the quote meant
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Re: Interesting Buddhist proverb [Re: tito123]
#19036801 - 10/26/13 05:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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what a cryptic statement.
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Re: Interesting Buddhist proverb [Re: s240779]
#19036868 - 10/26/13 06:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Unfortunately the story does not add up, the Homo genus has only been around for 2.5 million years. A bird with a scarf could not possibly erode a 6mi x 6mi x 6mi mountain in merely 25,000 passes.
And you might say, "but RotS, reincarnation encompasses all forms of life." Even if we ignore the question's phrasing (Buddha described how long humanity had been on the journey), and even if the bird flying over the mountain was of the earliest variety possible (archeopteryx), at most if could have rubbed the mountain with a scarf 1.5 million times, figuring that archeopteryx only came into existence around 150 million years ago, and can only make a pass once every 100 years.
Assuming that the scarf is rather large at a foot wide, it still has to drag over 36mi of terrain to complete a single full pass of the mountain. We're talking less than 10 full passes over the mountain in the best case scenario.
TL;DR - Buddha didn't know shit. Neither does Richard Alpert.
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Piecefillpath247 said: maybe we have different concepts of what reincarnation is 
symbols are funny things, help and hinder us, some kinda strange paradoxical duality built into the entirety or reality, its almost like were not even here at all
but that's just silly, i'm looking at my hand, typing on a keyboard, all evidence is in support of there being an individual I.
You didn't remember that there are atoms making up everything and the space between your hand and the air is the same distance as the space between atoms in anything...didnt your third grade teacher tell you we cant see everything?
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Re: Interesting Buddhist proverb [Re: berdinwall]
#19037160 - 10/26/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i must have been to drunk to pay attention that day
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if you wanna be a funny guy, I think its funny you use the word evidence when you're missing a lot of it in you're conclusion that you're seperate from the world around you...don't take it personally we're raised this way
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RiderOnTheStorm, your criticism is downright illogical.
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the Homo genus has only been around for 2.5 million years. A bird with a scarf could not possibly erode a 6mi x 6mi x 6mi mountain in merely 25,000 passes.
The proverb doesn't indicate that the mountain was eroded.
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even if the bird flying over the mountain was of the earliest variety possible
The bird has no context whatsoever. It is simply an analogy.
(In terms of your own illogic, you should have accounted for the first making of silk scarves.)
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Re: Interesting Buddhist proverb [Re: s240779]
#19037489 - 10/26/13 07:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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buddha has succesfully confused the shit outta humans for 2.5 million years yo
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Re: Interesting Buddhist proverb [Re: JesusIsLord]
#19037714 - 10/26/13 08:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lol I was about to say something similar. He caused this train of escalating conversation
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Re: Interesting Buddhist proverb [Re: berdinwall]
#19037717 - 10/26/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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On purpose heehee
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Re: Interesting Buddhist proverb [Re: berdinwall]
#19037916 - 10/26/13 09:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It sounds pretty straight forward to me
Why all the hate on Buddha? He was a cool dude
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Re: Interesting Buddhist proverb [Re: s240779]
#19038130 - 10/26/13 09:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Da2ra said: When the Buddha described how long humanity had been on the journey, as he spoke of reincarnation he talked of a mountain six miles wide, six miles high, six miles long. Every hundred years a bird would fly with a silk scarf in its beak and run it over the mountain once. The length of time it takes the scarf to wear away the mountain is the length of time you have been on the path.
Promises and Pitfalls of the Spiritual Path by Ram Dass Taken from Spiritual Emergency(compiled by Stanislav & Christina Grof)
Reminds me James Joyce's version:
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"For ever! For all eternity! Not for a year or for an age but for ever. Try to imagine the awful meaning of this. You have often seen the sand on the seashore. How fine are its tiny grains! And how many of those tiny little grains go to make up the small handful which a child grasps in its play. Now imagine a mountain of that sand, a million miles high, reaching from the earth to the farthest heavens, and a million miles broad, extending to remotest space, and a million miles in thickness; and imagine such an enormous mass of countless particles of sand multiplied as often as there are leaves in the forest, drops of water in the mighty ocean, feathers on birds, scales on fish, hairs on animals, atoms in the vast expanse of the air: and imagine that at the end of every million years a little bird came to that mountain and carried away in its beak a tiny grain of that sand. How many millions upon millions of centuries would pass before that bird had carried away even a square foot of that mountain, how many eons upon eons of ages before it had carried away all? Yet at the end of that immense stretch of time not even one instant of eternity could be said to have ended. At the end of all those billions and trillions of years eternity would have scarcely begun. And if that mountain rose again after it had been all carried away, and if the bird came again and carried it all away again grain by grain, and if it so rose and sank as many times as there are stars in the sky, atoms in the air, drops of water in the sea, leaves on the trees, feathers upon birds, scales upon fish, hairs upon animals, at the end of all those innumerable risings and sinkings of that immeasurably vast mountain not one single instant of eternity could be said to have ended; even then, at the end of such a period, after that eon of time the mere thought of which makes our very brain reel dizzily, eternity would scarcely have begun."
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Re: Interesting Buddhist proverb [Re: s240779]
#19038587 - 10/26/13 11:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Certainly makes me feel better about my current shitty life.
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Re: Interesting Buddhist proverb [Re: JesusIsLord]
#19041412 - 10/27/13 03:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lol I was about to say something similar. He caused this train of escalating conversation
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Re: Interesting Buddhist proverb [Re: berdinwall]
#19041429 - 10/27/13 03:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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wait 3 6000 miles 666?
devil sign
man has been here for 6000 years
6 is the devil
DEVIL IS MAN
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Re: Interesting Buddhist proverb [Re: s240779]
#19041506 - 10/27/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey. Thanks for that 
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Re: Interesting Buddhist proverb [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#19041530 - 10/27/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lol @ all of the folks trying to take this literally.
These sayings are trying to describe the indescribable. They give a sense of things beyond what we are capable of imagining. They aren't trying to prove a point or win an argument. Just give you a taste of larger concepts. That they don't make logical sense is their beauty.
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Re: Interesting Buddhist proverb [Re: Lynnch]
#19041536 - 10/27/13 04:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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if you realize the candlelight is fire, the meal was cooked long ago
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