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US approves more powerful, pure hydrocodone drug
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By MATTHEW PERRONE The Associated Press
WASHINGTON — The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has approved a stronger, single-ingredient version of the painkiller hydrocodone, the widely-abused prescription medicine for chronic pain. The agency said Friday it approved the pill Zohydro for patients with pain that requires "daily, around-the-clock, long-term treatment" that cannot be addressed with other drugs. Hydrocodone is currently sold in combination pills like Vicodin to treat pain from injuries, surgery, arthritis, migraines and other ailments. The new drug from Zogenix is the first pure, non-combination form of the drug approved in the U.S. The approval came as a surprise since the agency's own panel of outside advisers gave the drug an overwhelmingly negative review last year. The agency's panel of pain specialists voted 11-2, with one abstention, against approving the drug last December, questioning the need for a new form of one of most widely-abused prescription painkillers in U.S. Zohydro's approval was quickly criticized by patient safety advocates who had urged the FDA to reject the drug at a public meeting last year. "We're just going to kill more kids and then the FDA is going to come back and say, 'oh, we made a mistake,'" said Avi Israel. Israel's son Michael committed suicide in 2011 while struggling with painkiller addiction. Israel is the founder of a group called, Save the Michaels of the World, which aims to combat painkiller abuse in young people. In 2011, U.S. doctors wrote more than 131 million prescriptions for hydrocodone, making it the most prescribed drug in the country, according to government figures. Hydrocodone pills also consistently rank among most-abused medicines in the U.S., according to the DEA. The drug belongs to a family of medicines known as opiates or opioids because they are chemically similar to opium. They include morphine, heroin, oxycodone, codeine and methadone. Friday's news was also blasted by lawmakers in Congress who have been trying to rein in prescription drug abuse in their home states. Rep. Bill Keating, a Democrat, said the FDA should have required the drug to contain anti-abuse design features that would make it harder for users to crush the pills and snort or inject them. "FDA not only approves this dangerous drug, but does so without requiring any abuse-deterrent features. This is outrageous," Keating said in a statement. "Abuse-deterrent technologies should not be the anomaly, they must be the norm." In recent years, Purdue Pharma, Pfizer Inc., Endo Health Solutions Inc. and other drugmakers have developed tamper-resistant versions of popular opioid drugs. The timing of the FDA announcement also drew criticism from safety advocates and lawmakers. Only one day earlier the FDA said it would support stronger restrictions on combination drugs containing hydrocodone, including Vicodin and dozens of other generic formulations. The drugs currently available mix hydrocodone with non-addictive pain relievers like aspirin and acetaminophen. For decades these drugs have been subject to less rigorous prescribing limits than other prescription painkillers like oxycodone. Late Thursday, the FDA said it would recommend moving hydrocodone drugs from the schedule III class to the schedule II class of medications, a move that will limit the number of refills patients can receive and how many health professionals can prescribe the drugs. The Drug Enforcement Administration had first asked the agency to take that step a decade ago, and lawmakers and safety advocates had increased their pressure on the agency in recent years. Shares of Zogenix, Inc. jumped in trading Friday, climbing 80 cents, or 36 percent, to $3.04. Earlier shares set a 52-week high of $3.45. Copyright The Associated Press
http://www.ajc.com/ap/ap/health/us-approves-more-powerful-pure-hydrocodone-drug/nbYss/
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Re: US approves more powerful, pure hydrocodone drug [Re: x7x_x7x] 1
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Bring on the OD's
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Re: US approves more powerful, pure hydrocodone drug [Re: B_BOY] 1
#19035510 - 10/26/13 12:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Who cares. If your gonna pop pills your gonna pop pills. No .after how strong or weak they are. They say oh were gonna make more fiends. Blah blah. For the most part in nearly all cases fiends make themselves. We know by now what these kind of things are capable of. There is a place for them. Shit I think opana is a pill that kills but sure does take care of that pain after surgery
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Re: US approves more powerful, pure hydrocodone drug [Re: highc]
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Re: US approves more powerful, pure hydrocodone drug [Re: B_BOY] 1
#19035662 - 10/26/13 01:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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?? Made sense to me... although this IS really only newsworthy to people looking to abuse drugs. Most will still prefer oxycodone for that though. Unless this turns out to be a lot cheaper.
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Re: US approves more powerful, pure hydrocodone drug [Re: Big_Dave]
#19035672 - 10/26/13 01:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: US approves more powerful, pure hydrocodone drug [Re: B_BOY]
#19035954 - 10/26/13 02:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Will it become harder to get if hydrocodone becomes schedule 2?!?!
Anyone know anything about the recreational effects of this new drug?
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Re: US approves more powerful, pure hydrocodone drug [Re: B_BOY]
#19036022 - 10/26/13 02:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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B_BOY said: Bring on the OD's
This is a simplistic view of mixed opioid pharmaceuticals. Part of the incentive in putting acetominophen or ibuprofen in the mixtures is to purportedly discourage recreational use and abuse. However, it clearly is not preventing recreational use of mixtures like Vicodin, Norco, Lortab, etc.
In addition, in overdose scenarios, the presence of high concentrations of the NSAID additives suggests potential for toxicity, perhaps more than the opioids. Just look at the statistics on acetominophen hospitalizations:
Characterization of acetaminophen overdose-related emergency department visits and hospitalizations in the United States.
How much of these involve pharmaceautical opioid mixtures is unclear. What is clear is that acetominophen presents risks of liver toxicity.
Medically, pure concoctions of hydrocodone should be welcomed, as they already have been for other painkillers such as oxycodone, hydromorphone, morhpine. etc. etc.
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Re: US approves more powerful, pure hydrocodone drug [Re: Society]
#19036075 - 10/26/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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[Quote] . "Abuse-deterrent technologies should not be the anomaly, they must be the norm." [/Quote]
And that right there kids, is why drugs are bad. Because if you do them, we put toxic substances in them so you don't have fun. Like LSA or robotussin for example
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Re: US approves more powerful, pure hydrocodone drug [Re: Atrium]
#19036507 - 10/26/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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for patients with pain that requires "daily, around-the-clock, long-term treatment" that cannot be addressed with other drugs.
youre right, opiates are WAY better for someone's health than cannaboids
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Re: US approves more powerful, pure hydrocodone drug [Re: tealeaf]
#19036777 - 10/26/13 05:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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rbalzer said: Anyone know anything about the recreational effects of this new drug?
It's still Hydrocodone, just no Acetaminophen. Zohydro will be to Vicodin what Oxy is to Percocet, if that makes any sense.
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Re: US approves more powerful, pure hydrocodone drug [Re: x7x_x7x]
#19037021 - 10/26/13 06:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bring on Opana 2.0 but seriously Vicodon doesn't do shit sometimes Hopefully I get to try one before dey ban it
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Re: US approves more powerful, pure hydrocodone drug [Re: JoeMama1992] 1
#19038982 - 10/27/13 01:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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JoeMama1992 said:
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rbalzer said: Anyone know anything about the recreational effects of this new drug?
It's still Hydrocodone, just no Acetaminophen. Zohydro will be to Vicodin what Oxy is to Percocet, if that makes any sense.

THATS AWESOME! no more cold water extraction, or killing the liver with all the acetaminophen
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Re: US approves more powerful, pure hydrocodone drug [Re: x7x_x7x]
#19048242 - 10/28/13 07:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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x7x_x7x said:
By MATTHEW PERRONE The Associated Press
The drug belongs to a family of medicines known as opiates or opioids because they are chemically similar to opium. They include morphine, heroin, oxycodone, codeine and methadone.
http://www.ajc.com/ap/ap/health/us-approves-more-powerful-pure-hydrocodone-drug/nbYss/
Nonsense, methadone is a synthetic opioid it is not chemically similar to [substances found in] opium, just look at the structural formula and it is obvious.
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Re: US approves more powerful, pure hydrocodone drug [Re: Solipsis]
#19050677 - 10/29/13 06:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You didn't read the quote you posted
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Re: US approves more powerful, pure hydrocodone drug [Re: tealeaf] 1
#19054185 - 10/29/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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for patients with pain that requires "daily, around-the-clock, long-term treatment" that cannot be addressed with other drugs.
youre right, opiates are WAY better for someone's health than cannaboids
Cannabis fucking blows for pain. It helps some people I guess, but it sure as hell never helped me or anyone I know with serious pain. Sometimes you need opiates, and hydrocodone is another option doctors have to prescribe people. Some people get more out of hydrocodone, though not very many. Its really just a drug company trying to make a bunch of money selling a shitty opiate for way more money when much more effective drugs that are also already generic.
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Re: US approves more powerful, pure hydrocodone drug [Re: fapjack]
#19054207 - 10/29/13 08:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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They shouldn't make decisions based on addicts behavior! f anything it should be based on the medically neededy
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Re: US approves more powerful, pure hydrocodone drug [Re: dark3st]
#19054228 - 10/29/13 08:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Time release hydrocodone isn't really going to help too many people much more than CR oxyocodone or CR Fentanyl, or CR Morphine. Hydrocodone isn't really as good of a pain medicine, this drug isn't getting released cause their is a demand for it, its just another drug to sell. I think it should exist, but not for 10x the price.
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Re: US approves more powerful, pure hydrocodone drug [Re: fapjack]
#19054249 - 10/29/13 08:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Everyone is different. It really helps my migraine pain (on a 1-10 scale they are a 8-9) I feel like death but some of that hydrocodone drops that pain to a 3-4 like hydromorphone or oxy, they don't kill pain they make you relax and numb you a bit
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Re: US approves more powerful, pure hydrocodone drug [Re: dark3st]
#19054293 - 10/29/13 09:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The roxy/OC of hydros..wow.
I don't really take hydrocodone recreationally like I do oxycodone..
Just another drug to get people hooked to take their money.
Don't get me wrong..i've struggled with opiate addiction for a couple years now and i'm finally to the point that i'm almost completely off them. Oxycodone is fucking evil.
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