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Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed * 15
    #19035211 - 10/26/13 11:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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GRAINS. So nutritious that they must be fully sterilized lest even the slightest contaminant run rampant. So nutritious that they cannot possibly hold enough water to use it all in a single flush.
Grains are the heart of the mycology grow; failure is likely and success shallow without them. Thus they could be said to deserve the title of Substrate more than other materials.
We should carefully prepare this most important substrate leaving it healthy, whole, nutritious, hydrated, and loose.


GRASS SEED & BROWN RICE
I have used many different grains - rye, millet/milo, wheat, grass seed, brown rice, even corn. With some adjustments based on their size & hardiness, this prep tek works to prepare them all!
In many ways relevant to our cultivation purposes these grains are the same. However their differences come to seem quite drastic to those that work with them many times.
Millet&Milo (birdseed), Rye, and wheat are the currently widespread common choices for grains. Less so are grass seed & brown rice which I think should be more popular! Since these grains require a bit more care in their preparation and are likely to be a tad more expensive in bulk by weight than a couple other options, there may be little need to use them for certain teks but definite advantages for others.


Grass seed is an incredible little grain. Its tiny size offers serious advantages but needs careful attention paid to hydration lest it become annoying. As long as they're hydrated carefully one can fully take the advantages of this rich little seed.
It has 3-7 times the grains per area of all other grains. For transfers where only inoculation points are necessary, or for when an especially high saturation of inoculation points is desired, grass seed then makes itself more effective than grains many times its price. This may be only a slight advantage that doesn't compensate for the increase in price when used as a "spawn" substrate grain, but for other uses it flourishes. If for instance a single colonized "master" jar of rye grain can inoculate 10+ more, a single "master" of grass seed can do 30+, also making better use of jars and sterilization.


Brown rice is also wonderful but is limited in use. Its high nutrition and water-holding capacity can become very starchy and sticky to the point of being difficult to use for "spawning" teks unless precisely hydrated lightly, but it flourishes in a grow technique where the substrate is never broken-up. With the bonus of perfect discretion in storage, this may indeed make it a grain of choice for grows like violet tek!
Thus I'm here showcasing whole brown rice for much more widespread use and showing how.

Both grains are very discrete. Face it, you're not feeding birds much less horses and you aren't milling flour… but brown rice is obviously for dinner and grass seed is for the yard!


PREPARATION

I have 2 main ways of preparing grains, a regular or modified stove/microwave boil preparation or the trick I came up with to easily flash hydrate large quantities of grains by pouring hard-boiling water onto them. They will be described in that order.

Additionally I modify the process when using the grains for Psilocybes, hydrating them with plant food "ferts" mixed in the water as instructed on the label and treating the grains before sterilization with two heat sessions 24+hr apart. The modification will be described at the end of this post. More on this


Most grain preps are overcomplicated.  It's important to remember that they will be cooked again in the PC.
Grain quality is diminished more than necessary by boiling the grains and hydrating as such. There is no point in making it fully-cooked and stuffed with water before it is going to get cooked again.
It's quite funny that other preparations say that the heat step is primarily for evaporating off excess water, when that water is only excess because the grains are already fully cooked and fully wet because of that very step. If you've unnecessarily fully-hydrated the grains at the prep stage by boiling/simmering them, you have to get rid of the excess water on the surface as it's obviously not needed to finish hydration.

This is the main problem with heavy preparations - the necessity of drying, an extra variable step that's due to an overtreatment. Many mistakes can be made regarding hydration due to these and although it's not hard to get it right it has leached out and cooked off more of the grains organic quality. Clever drying tactics are extra tedium and can result in spotty hydration.


Thus I figured out these easy methods for preparing all grains!


Short Boiling prep:
Bring to a rolling boil about 4 times the volume of water as the volume of your dry grains to be prepared. You may need to add some as the grains are boiling if you see the grains expanding near the top of the water level as they expand and water boils away.
Once the water is boiling hard throw in your grains.
For corn, allow the water to recover a bit of its boil for a minute or so before removing from heat.
Definitely remove from heat! A bit metal pot, especially a pressure cooker pot, left to linger on an oven-hot electric heat source is likely to cause much rye and brown rice to burst.  This can easily ruin a brown rice preparation.

Some grains such as rye will be ready as soon as 4 hours later. Some may be ready after 24.
Simply strain until a little tossing no longer causes much dripping and load up for sterilization!

Others like grass seed & brown rice may benefit from or require (respectively) a second short boil before a longer straining.

This is how brown rice looks before its second short boil. As long as the initial boil was short, you can see that the grains are not fully enlarged yet and feel that they're still quite tough in the middle. We want them to be soft enough to break smoothly under the fingernail but not loose, starchy, falling apart.

Leave the grains in the water as it is brought up to a boil. If your stove can do this somewhat quickly, let it boil hard for just a couple minutes before immediately straining (be careful!). Otherwise getting it to a thorough boil is enough to strain since the heat is still higher for longer.

My suggestion is to use a medium simmer & monitor the rice's progression, straining it when it reaches that perfect size and hydration.  As long as you're keeping an eye on it, and pull some out with a spoon to check it out every little while, you'll find it's easy to nail the sweet spot.
This ensures that the heat isn't so high that it continues to over-cook even after you strain it at the right time, and that you're less likely to let it pass that perfect point in the first place.


There is how brown rice looks once prepared.  With a few periodic shakes for dripping it won't take but a couple hours of straining before it's ready to load up!
*If boiled a long time and hydrated fully, grass seed in the bottom of strainers may need up to four times as long to finish straining off excess water such amongst the many grains' surfaces. If this is the case, be patient.  If your brown rice is over-hydrated, be extra patient, and count yourself lucky that only this tek is forgiving of this kind of mispreparation.


Ready to go!

This rice is loaded 1 cup (8oz) per container. 2 pound bag of brown rice became 13 cups of prepared substrate. The bag was almost half a cup over a quart, so the rice became about 2.5x its original volume.



Flash Hydration prep:
The aim of this preparation is a bit different. We want to bring the grains just short of both fully cooked and fully hydrated.

Bring to a rolling boil 2x-3x the volume of water as the volume of dry grains to be prepared – 2x for grass seed, 2.5x or more for birdseed rye and wheat, 3x for corn and rice.

Make sure the water is boiling very hard, photos for emphasis.

BE CAREFUL:

With the grains in a tote on the floor next to you, take the boiling water right from the stove and pour it into them.

It's very important that the water still be ridiculously hot, still hard-boiling when poured onto the grains.
If it's a so-so boil and you take your time pouring it, and it loses much more of its heat than it has to, the grains may not become fully prepared over the course of the long aftersoak.


Water should come a bit above the top of the grains.
The grains will rise over the coming hour:


Wait an additional hour or three (depending) after the grains have expanded before straining; it expands quickly at first but as the water is cooling the hydration slows and steadies out over a longer period.
Grains such as rye, pictured above, may appear ready as soon as just 4 hours. You can use when the grains look round and healthy!:

... but I suggest you let them soak longer!  It may be a bit better to under-do it than over-do it, but over-doing it does not come easy with this grain preparation, and it's more important to ensure that the grains are easily consumable by the mycelium. An incomplete preparation can result in incomplete yield.

Grass seed is ready to go anywhere  around 2 hours after hydration, since the greater amount of water stuck between the grains after straining will finish their hydration in the cooker. It is a very friendly grain when prepared nicely.

Corn and rice are larger or more firm and can use a couple/few more hours waiting in the water before strain.


Strain for just a few minutes:

This is what makes this grain approach so easy & once learned works perfectly every time. Unless strained immediately after a simmer, some amount of moisture is retained amongst the grains' surfaces. Since the grains aren't so heavily cooked and hydrated by this prep, the moisture on the grains after just a few minutes of straining is perfect to finish hydration & stop any burning/drying.



"But wait, there's more"

When you go to pour your grains into a strainer to drain off the water, be sure to have something to catch the water!


Here is that liquid after some time of settling. The top liquid is poured off into a container of its own...

... and the settled part combined while leaving behind any stray grains.

The right container of opaque liquid essentially amounts to AGAR!

The left container of settled grain matter in liquid can be settled further and more grainwater pulled off the top:

... leaving behind a thick almost syrup solution of grain starches and nutrients.  With ~1/3 the normal proportion agar-agar powder and a little help from another trick this amounts to more substrate, but that's something else altogether!


Both can be frozen for later use.



PREP MODIFICATIONS FOR FERTS
Do not add ferts to your grain prep water unless you modify the prep to suit, described as follows. It won't be of any use that way and mycelium may not like it, possibly manifesting as slowed colonization, or even a stall if there is too much as well. It must be processed by bacteria first, just as when adding bone meal or blood meal to compost.
This here is only to outline the adjustment to above grain preparations that this experiment requires. About using plant food 'ferts' in treated grain substrates

After the initial hydrating heat treatment we allow 24-28 hours for contaminant mold spores and bacterial endospores to germinate.
Then we repeat the heat treatment to destroy those contaminants and leave behind a far reduced spectra of bacteria.


If you used a boil-24hr-boil preparation as per the short boiling prep this is already done. Just leave the grains enclosed in their containers for another 24 hours as a "pre-ferment" period. 24-28 hours after the return to normal temperatures the smell will begin to transform. At this point they can be sterilized at any time before a rancid bacterial bloom occurs.


If you only boiled&soaked once before straining and loading, or used the flash-hydrate preparation to do the same, you need a second heat treatment. The microwave is perfect for this.

Lids loose if the grains are hydrated nicely. Lids off for part of the time if you may be concerned with the grains being too wet.
Microwave for 7-8 minutes depending on how many containers you have in there. It may help to turn them 180° after half the time.
Be careful, they will be very hot!

Like said above, 24-28 hours after return to normal temperature they're ready for sterilization!


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REMEMBER:  There are slight modifications in the water and heat times of these preparations for different grains.  No amount of written detail can overcome inexperience or laziness in cooking grains.  Keep your mind on your preparation and you'll have perfect grains in no time!


Have fun!


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: Violet]
    #19035304 - 10/26/13 11:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not seeing exactly what you invented here.

The first method is basically the same as RR's prep, except starting with boiling water for the soak.

The second is FooMan's prep, to the T.

For the record, I've tried FooMan's prep on WBS before and it didn't end up yielding nearly as well as a normal soak/simmer. Like half the yield as normal. This is using an isolate in the same conditions as always.


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: 36fuckin5] * 2
    #19035351 - 10/26/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

There's nothing to "invent" regarding simple grain preparations, just different adjustments to share.

Neither are exactly alike the two you mentioned.  In fact this post is specifically for the differences in them I've purposely adjusted.

If anything, it'd actually be the First one that's similar but not alike FooMan's WBS method since he pours the grains in the pot, and I've not seen the second used at-all. I posted the 2nd prep a long time ago as part of another thread.
None of those you mention use a 2nd heating 24hrs later, either.

Additionally, I haven't found a write-up specifically guided to the potential problematic whole brown rice. There needs to be one around.

I can write-up a grain prep if I want, even if it actually were my take on someone elses.
Thanks for your 'input'.


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #19035493 - 10/26/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

36fuckin5 said:
I'm not seeing exactly what you invented here.

The first method is basically the same as RR's prep, except starting with boiling water for the soak.

The second is FooMan's prep, to the T.

For the record, I've tried FooMan's prep on WBS before and it didn't end up yielding nearly as well as a normal soak/simmer. Like half the yield as normal. This is using an isolate in the same conditions as always.





Aren't most people's teks on here (including mine) re-writes of previous teks wwith minor tweaks :shrug:


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: Stromrider]
    #19035602 - 10/26/13 12:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Stromrider said:
Quote:

36fuckin5 said:
I'm not seeing exactly what you invented here.

The first method is basically the same as RR's prep, except starting with boiling water for the soak.

The second is FooMan's prep, to the T.

For the record, I've tried FooMan's prep on WBS before and it didn't end up yielding nearly as well as a normal soak/simmer. Like half the yield as normal. This is using an isolate in the same conditions as always.





Aren't most people's teks on here (including mine) re-writes of previous teks wwith minor tweaks :shrug:




Yep. Which is why it's so damn hard to find good info.


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #19035618 - 10/26/13 01:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

36fuckin5 said:
Quote:

Stromrider said:
Quote:

36fuckin5 said:
I'm not seeing exactly what you invented here.

The first method is basically the same as RR's prep, except starting with boiling water for the soak.

The second is FooMan's prep, to the T.

For the record, I've tried FooMan's prep on WBS before and it didn't end up yielding nearly as well as a normal soak/simmer. Like half the yield as normal. This is using an isolate in the same conditions as always.





Aren't most people's teks on here (including mine) re-writes of previous teks wwith minor tweaks :shrug:




Yep. Which is why it's so damn hard to find good info.




I have never had trouble finding good information. I used fh and tl's teks to get me started and when I found a system that worked well for me I made a start to finish bulk tek. It's a work in progress


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: Stromrider] * 1
    #19035654 - 10/26/13 01:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

great stuff violet..........:thumbup:


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: anne halonium]
    #19036113 - 10/26/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Violet you left out important information regarding rgs prep. In your past "teks" you've stated to only use half the amount of water to grass seed. Boiling 3x the volume of water to rgs always leads to a wet sub, also do not bring your grass seed to boil with your water as you do with rye or wbs the kernels burst easily. Thought I'd chime in, seems like your contradicting yourself. Not trying to hurt anyones ego or down this tek but it does need revision.


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: botanicalbishop]
    #19036132 - 10/26/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

boil the stuff and strain it.
perfect every time.



how hard can it be?

theres a larger point here.
its not difficult, to do seed to scale,
and ,plastic containers,
are way more forgiving on air and water , than glass IMO.


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: anne halonium]
    #19036242 - 10/26/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well done V, This is the level of detail that we were looking for. I love the part about RGS being for the yard. I am going to try the flash tek again and post updates, but I still stand by my original statement that new growers should learn the BRF tek first.

  The problem with Brown Rice, and other grains, is that there is so much room for error when compared to the BRF tek.


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: Sockadin]
    #19050206 - 10/29/13 02:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: Violet]
    #19078725 - 11/03/13 03:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

This is just what the doctor ordered, thanks Violet.


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: LungCheeseFungus]
    #19082279 - 11/03/13 07:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the info, will be trying a few tests soon


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: jpack666]
    #19155455 - 11/18/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Excuse me while I attempt to clear up some confusion on my end:

As far as what I remember on the initial tek before it was modded into parts it seems like you had a bit more information available on the grass seed's actual preparation. From what I can tell theres far less focus on it and more so a general just general seed prep...

Correct me if I'm wrong but speaking specifically about RGS, one would use twice(x2) the amount of water as they would grain (so for every 250mL/1 cup of grain I'd use 500mL/2 cups water) correct?

I ask this because...

In the tek post before the way you had us do it was add the water in, stir it up every so often, and it'd be ready in 4-x hours... Now its up to 14+... Is my mind a mess and im completely fabricating this or was the actual tek altered some lol.

The last method I remember using mentioned that if you were left with less then a cup of liquid that you prepared things right but following this tek today my seeds were totally submerged (they've hydrated above the water line now) but are still very much "soaking" as opposed to how I remember them from last time. This leaves me a bit worried about i guess the "staining for just a few min" as it seems like they'll still be quite soaked before I load them into the jars.

What causes the grains to clump into balls anyway? Is that due to them being improperly hydrated then sticking together as they're dried in the pressure cooker?

Anyways, its just seed and I always follow the tek so we'll have to see how that works. Should be loading up and PC'ing that all 2night so if it doesn't work out for some reason I'll make sure to post :smile:

Thanks again for all the info Violet!
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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: Mosey3012]
    #19156334 - 11/18/13 07:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Another question

"Grass seed is ready to go anywhere from 14 to 24 hours after hydration."

Is this statement saying that AFTER hydration grass seed is rdy for the PC after 14-24 hours or is saying that grass seed is ready to go to the PC after 14-24 hours of hydration... Sorry for my reading to much into this but the original statement makes me think that once hydrated the grass seed is good to be PC'd after its sat out another 14-24 hours, which I guess depending on how its being stored after hydration would count as a "strain"...

Someone fill me in! Got a bunch of seed sitting in the tote now coming up on 12 hours of soaking.

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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: Mosey3012]
    #19157726 - 11/18/13 11:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Mosey, I had that one method of preparation displayed in that tek using the exact amount of water per hydration mimicing the "no-prep" displayed in RR's dvd for growing sclerotia with grass seed. For those who have trouble with nailing hydration with tiny seed, it makes it near impossible to mess up.  I did mention that you could let it soak longer if you like.  After a few people mis-understood instructions or didn't get the emphasis on how hard water must boil for that particular prep, I decided to let the single simple sentence read "let soak for many hours afterwards" and use 12+ as the general range. That helps to ensure that the grains have picked up enough moisture to complete in the cooker in the case that it wasn't flash-boiled in. Just keeping it as simultaneously ideal and general as possible.
However, for making a thread dedicated to prep I wasn't going to mimic "no-prep" but rather wanted to show it done right boiled for the regular common batch.

Yes, clumpy grains happens particularly when over boiled, moreso with starchier grains. It's only a problem if they're over boiled though, which is hard to do with grass seed really, but with the tiny things it's really bad if so.
With the right control, even brown rice can be used as "spawn." It requires simply stopping them from poofing up largely, letting them gradually work up to the right level on a simmer.

If you prepare your grains like me you'd leave them sitting in water 24+ hours before a 2nd heat treat, and out of water another 24+ before hitting the pressure cooker.  So you're good!


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: Violet]
    #19176717 - 11/22/13 09:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Violet,

which grain prep method would you recommend for a first timer using the VTek with Rye Grass Seed?


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: MMagg]
    #19177175 - 11/23/13 12:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Regardless of which I suggest to you,  the truly important thing for beginners is to learn what properly prepared grains are like!
Once you do this, you can easily reach that either way, as long as you pay attention and learn what you're doing.

It's quite simple. One just has to be sure not to over-boil brown rice or under-hydrate/under-prepare grass seed.


Since your intent is grass seed, I suggest you learn preparation using the boiling prep.  It's quite a simmer-friendly grain.  If you end up over-boiling (don't over-boil) it you simply strain it for a long long time.  You'll see...  Fortunately RGS is not Too easily over-boiled the way rye/millet/wheat burst.


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The simplest, quickest, safest tek!  For beginners, culturers, lazy people, stealth lovers, contam haters, and alternative seekers!
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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: Violet]
    #19178351 - 11/23/13 10:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Violet said:
Regardless of which I suggest to you,  the truly important thing for beginners is to learn what properly prepared grains are like!
Once you do this, you can easily reach that either way, as long as you pay attention and learn what you're doing.

It's quite simple. One just has to be sure not to over-boil brown rice or under-hydrate/under-prepare grass seed.


Since your intent is grass seed, I suggest you learn preparation using the boiling prep.  It's quite a simmer-friendly grain.  If you end up over-boiling (don't over-boil) it you simply strain it for a long long time.  You'll see...  Fortunately RGS is not Too easily over-boiled the way rye/millet/wheat burst.





Gotcha.  Boiling it is.  Thanks again.


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: MMagg]
    #19181997 - 11/24/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Violet,

I hate to ask, but could you please give me a step by step for 2 pounds of Rye Grass Seed.... The tek you posted has multiple grains mentioned and i'm having some confusion trying to figure out how its applying to Rye Grass Seed specifically......  As a noob, I want to nail down one grain before I try to figure out more stuff...... RGS seems to be the best all purpose grain.


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