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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: Stromrider]
    #19023548 - 10/24/13 04:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Have you ever considered that you might be obsessive about your new beginning? I think it is fantastic, and Im laughing with you on this one. If I tried to go that far balls deep my wife would definitely make me shut it down.

  I have to say that I don't think I would use the Warm/Humidifier. This is going to breed many molds.

Nota says "Lc's in general suck."  This is because there is now real way to test for contaminates in you culture. The only good way is to take it from a LC and move it to agar. Then sector out the clean isolate until you have a perfect specimen to make a master grain jar.

  Use that jar to g2g a big whore fest of jars.


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: Sockadin]
    #19023561 - 10/24/13 04:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Have you ever considered that you might be obsessive about your new beginning? I think it is fantastic, and Im laughing with you on this one. If I tried to go that far balls deep my wife would definitely make me shut it down.

  I have to say that I don't think I would use the Warm/Humidifier. This is going to breed many molds.

Nota says "Lc's in general suck."  This is because there is now real way to test for contaminates in you culture. The only good way is to take it from a LC and move it to agar. Then sector out the clean isolate until you have a perfect specimen to make a master grain jar.

  Use that jar to g2g a big whore fest of jars.




lol I understand I may be a bit obsessive in general, but what are you pointing at specifically? Materials - Attention to detail.. lol Im confused.


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19024098 - 10/24/13 06:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: Stromrider]
    #19024189 - 10/24/13 06:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hmm - Okay, Im mixing up some more WBS to do tonight when I get home - About to Simmer and Can - PC the ones I did last night using Franks procedure.

I'll be doing Strom's Start to Finish Bulk Tek with these jars, atleast the beginning stages :wink:


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19024206 - 10/24/13 06:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:rockon:

Good night mcdoogle I'm off to bed


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19024478 - 10/24/13 08:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well, I just innoced my Quart LC Jars - 1cc each - We will see how it goes in a few days - Will be Innocing my PP5 Plastics here as soon as they cool down - probably going to nap before work. Will keep you updated :wink:


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19028756 - 10/24/13 10:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

inoculated my PP5' Ziplock Containers ( RGS Violets Method ) before work - currently simmering about 12qt's worth WBS using FrankHorrigans generic tek


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19029236 - 10/25/13 12:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

And the WBS has gone into the PC -

I want to say this, WITH discretion being I just had to deal with it -

But NEVER AGAIN - SO MESSY >.<

Bird... Seed... EVERYWHERE

IN MY SHOES


Doesent help I have 5 - 5 week old kittens watching and playing with every kernel, nearly stepping on them left and right and spilling stuff...


Oh - I'll remember this.. I will not forget.


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19029250 - 10/25/13 12:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Turns out I have way more birdseed than I can fit in ten quarts, Is it advisable to open up PC' with haste * as is to relief the pressure manually, as to open it faster, and than insert another batch? I want to get them in jars and pc'ed before it dries out...


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19029363 - 10/25/13 01:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I would advise against it. Quick pressure drop can cause jars to crack. Just load the extra wbs in jars and leave it sitting until tomorrow. It won't dry out


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19033489 - 10/25/13 10:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

What is the quickest one has seen growth in a jar / bag innoculating with syringe?


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19034164 - 10/26/13 03:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

About 3 or 4 days is the quickest you'll see growth. It's usually closer to a week though


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19037125 - 10/26/13 07:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So i've got everything in the walk in closet -

All my jars that I have inoculated within the last three days - ten more in an hour or so ( will be 24 hours since I took off PC )

Thats all I will be doing, as to say 4 - 6 syringes are now down 3-5cc's each, I want to save them and use the RGS for g2g.

I spray the Disinfectant for a two-three seconds every time I leave the closet, it remains at a constant 81.5-82'f and there is a 6500K Daylight Compact Flourescent lightbulb running 12 on 12 off -

In your professional opinions, is this ideal?


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19037155 - 10/26/13 07:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Spraying disinfectant is pointless.


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: abltsandwich]
    #19037166 - 10/26/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Spraying disinfectant is pointless.





Oh, lol whys that because i'll definatley stop, smells like a hospital up in there :/


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19041504 - 10/27/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Will update OP -

7 of 8 PP5 Containers show noticable growth - inoculated in glovebox using syringe on 10/25 around 5pm

The LC jars inoculated on 10/24, hard to tell, I think I did Tablespoons of Karo instead of TSP so the liquid is very dark, a flashlight does not help either. We will see in a week or so whether or not they will be viable.

inoculated ten quarts ball jars on 10/26 early midnight and 10/26 mid-day

We will see how they look here in a few days.

The pp5 RGS is 2 - 1/2 pints of each variety I have ordered, and one will be used for g2g, and another will be fruited for spore prints to go onto agar.


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19041538 - 10/27/13 04:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Here are a few photos - Will add more later.


This is the above average growth of the 7/8 pp5 containers, others show a bit less growth, but still visable.




These pictures (2and3) detail the small black dots inside of the spore syringes that have made their home on the very edge of the containers, showing the spread of mycellium from them. The last picture is the jars of birdseed 45 minutes after pressure was released, immediatley after opening the PC. They did dry out a bit more to what I believe is optimal moisture content.


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19042967 - 10/27/13 09:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Will Update OP

10/27 Midnight -

The WBS jars that were inoculated on 10/25 at 5pm are showing huge growth spurts - accidentally knocked heater, was only 80 in there for the last few hours im assuming, will turn up a smidge for 81'.

5/7 10/25 1QT WBS inoculated with Thai and EQ show great growth, almost more spread/depth to the mycellium than the RGS ( rye grass seed ) inoculated on 10/25 around 5 AM ( 12 hour difference ) the only difference is that due to the small containers, I may have injected less, and the big difference is that these containers have no fresh air flow, no ventilation, completley sealed - dont know that will result.

My four LC' are doing well, 2 of the moreso than others, 1 looks amazing, like I threw a bunch of cotton candy fibers in there and spun it around.

For Only three days inoculation Period with Spore Syringe - I am happy with the growth, two of the pp5 rgs have growths of over  3/4sqinch and the other not bad - the WBS growth seems to ahve run down the side of the jar, and is spreading evenly in 1-3inch spaces.


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19043162 - 10/27/13 10:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I may be able to shine some light into one of your questions regarding the pricing for tubs and possibly an idea for a glove box.

I've found some fairly cheap tubs at TARGET. $10 or under depending if their running a sale, I don't use clear tubs because I've found they crack very easily if you don't use the right tools. The closest thing I ever found for cutting holes was a knife and that seems to slice right into the opaque colored tubs without a problem.

If I had a drill and slip on piece for cutting holes I'd get the clear ones.

You can construct a very economical glove box using a tub, slice two arm sized holes into it and tape some trash bags in there. Cut a large window into the lid of your tub and tape some plastic wrap over it. There you go! 'Poor Fuckers Glove Box' Tek:thumbup:

Oh shit, didn't even realize this thread was on its 4th page. Here I was thinking you were just starting out and I'm posting this shit well after you've started.


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19043364 - 10/27/13 11:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

As an experiment I will be shaking one of my 1qt WBS jars that have just shown growth as of yesterday around midnight, I have three of them in nearly identical growth paterns currently (1/4inch growth, about thumb sized)

As an experiment regarding this post
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17924122#17924122

and my curiosity brought out by this post
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19043090

I am going to go upstairs and shake one of my jars -

We will see what happens.

All jars are numbered, and logged every day for signs of mositure content, growth, and any signs of contamination, approx growth site, localized or random, ect.

Business as usual.

Shook QT#4(MALABAR) which had similar growth to QT#? ( I forgot, its written down though. )

Both were inoculated same minute, reside in the same room at the same temperature, shown similar signs of growth - one is shaken, the others remain untouched.

Will keep updated on this side-experiment.


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