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Offlineakira_akuma
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the newest Mario outing looks awesome.
    #19033033 - 10/25/13 08:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: the newest Mario outing looks awesome. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19033121 - 10/25/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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http://www.giantbomb.com/videos/here-s-six-minutes-of-super-mario-3d-world-s-almos/2300-8108/

speculate, discuss and trash.



Meh, I don't think it looks like anything special. I don't think there's much the Mario franchise can do in the way of innovation. I found it hard and repetitive to even watch the game trailer. I guess I just don't have much Mario nostalgia.


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Re: the newest Mario outing looks awesome. [Re: mylfgur]
    #19033133 - 10/25/13 08:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i don't really either. i just love platformers, and the presentation and music of Mario games. plus, for a Platformer, it's pretty innovative. along the lines of the new Rayman games.


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Re: the newest Mario outing looks awesome. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19033168 - 10/25/13 09:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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i don't really either. i just love platformers, and the presentation and music of Mario games. plus, for a Platformer, it's pretty innovative. along the lines of the new Rayman games.



Ahhhh, I see. I much preferred Duck Hunt to Mario anyways. I suppose that shows what kind of gamer I am.


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Re: the newest Mario outing looks awesome. [Re: mylfgur]
    #19033177 - 10/25/13 09:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

you like FPS? :grin: that'd be my guess.


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Re: the newest Mario outing looks awesome. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19033183 - 10/25/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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you like FPS? :grin: that'd be my guess.



hehe yeah basically. RTS is cool too.


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Re: the newest Mario outing looks awesome. [Re: mylfgur]
    #19033198 - 10/25/13 09:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i used to love Command and Conquer and Starcraft, but i kinda suck at those games at the same time as i like them, so... i haven't really kept up with the huge online following of games like SC2 and Civilization V and stuff... love the games, but just ain't good at 'em. you play XCom: Enemy Unknown?

that's my favorite strategy game i've played and NOT sucked at, recently. :laugh:


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Re: the newest Mario outing looks awesome. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19033290 - 10/25/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Mario has sucked pretty hard for a few years now...  :frown:

I think Galaxy was the last one I actually enjoyed.


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Re: the newest Mario outing looks awesome. [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #19033348 - 10/25/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

wasn't Galaxy the last main entry in the Mario series?


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Re: the newest Mario outing looks awesome. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19033383 - 10/25/13 09:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If you don't count all the crappy little DS clone games that they keep pumping out Call-of-Duty-style, then maybe.


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Re: the newest Mario outing looks awesome. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19033394 - 10/25/13 09:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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wasn't Galaxy the last main entry in the Mario series?



well, they had a second galaxy if that counts lol.

personally, I'm just done with Nintendo, all they do is beat old ips to death with repetitive sequels with no innovation. And god the Wii was terrible, and the WiiU was basically an expansion pack for a console.


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Re: the newest Mario outing looks awesome. [Re: mushroom_sandwich]
    #19033436 - 10/25/13 10:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i don't really think they making the best decisions either, but they stick by the notion (an i concur) that video games are toys and should be treated as such.

they don't look for the newest tech, nor innovation in the sense of making the next Beyond Two Souls, or Last of Us (notice how i am using examples of games, that are told to be innovative when they really aren't) they just make platformers and childish games mostly, because they choose to. i find that admirable. :shrug: i've been disappointed with tons of games, and never a Nintendo game, i guess because i know what to expect.

when i get a game that doesn't deliver what it intends to (and that's alot, because all games now are trying to lead with the heading "super realistic and engaging story" whilst not accomplishing those things, and making more gamey game-like titles, that give the player more shooting then is required, in a say "stealth game" (i'm looking at you, Last of Us) and then say that everything in the world works, when you can't even find a fast food store in Los Santos anymore (lookin' at you GTA5) without buying one out... and even then, you can't go inside all but one Chicken shop.

it's stuff liek that that disappoints me, personally. i've been let down alot more from other devs, then Nintendo, but again, solely my opinion, on the matter.


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Re: the newest Mario outing looks awesome. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19033841 - 10/26/13 12:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I see your point (and the hollow buildings in gta5 also piss me off though I personally disagree with the last of us not being innovative) but I also feel that Nintendo comes across as lazy when they can't even be bothered to come up with a single new IP. It's just mario, zelda, donkey kong, and pokemon and none of them ever evolve whatsoever, they just crank out 1,2,3,4,5,etc until they are just an embarrassment and a shadow of once great franchises.


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Re: the newest Mario outing looks awesome. [Re: mushroom_sandwich]
    #19033857 - 10/26/13 12:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Last of Us was sorta like Bioshock Infinite for me, because although they delivered on the great story and plots and gameplay; they didn't deliver on what i thought was the most innovating parts of their supposed delivery... the fact of your AI companion being more then just a useful idiot, that gets things for you and talks to you meanderingly... i mean, they were supposed to be immersing interactive parts of the game, and that aspect of BOTH games (for example) were broken, to me, anyways. i mean, in Last of Us, for example, the girl could be running around Clickers making noises and bumping into them and shit, and nothing is done, but then i make the wrong move a room away, and all of a sudden they come running when i was A: in stealth mode, and B: never coming into contact with any bottles or movable objects; pretty much like a glitch.

i am definitely not saying the games were bad, or not innovative enough... they just didn't deliver the specific innovations they promised.

but about Nintendo, i kinda agree on some level, because i wanna see something new from them; which is why they got Platinum Games on board, and are trying to get more second party devs to work on the WiiU... but they aren't doing much about it THEMSELVES; i can agree with you on that.

but aren't devs supposed to stick with what they're good at?


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Re: the newest Mario outing looks awesome. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19034012 - 10/26/13 02:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

devs should stick to what they're good at, I just question if Nintendo is still good at it. :shrug: rehashing the same games just doesn't cut it anymore, at least for me.

Take Capcom for instance, they've released what, like 3 versions of street fighter 4? yet believe it or not they are actually about to release ANOTHER one! when all they do is add a couple characters and maybe a few new maps. Ridiculous. Granted Nintendo isn't QUITE at that point yet, but I can definitely see them making their way there.


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Re: the newest Mario outing looks awesome. [Re: mushroom_sandwich]
    #19034020 - 10/26/13 02:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, i see your point. but what dev hasn't made a trilogy out of their AAA franchise this past decade?

i hope ALL that gets finished up over NEW ip, but... honestly, do i WANNA see Mario change? i dunno if i do.


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Re: the newest Mario outing looks awesome. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19034041 - 10/26/13 02:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I agree about Mario not really needing to change too much, as it's extremely basic, but what about something like Pokemon?

Instead of adding more terrible excuses for pokemon and just changing the names of the bad guys and region, couldn't they instead have another game studio take a shot at reinventing it while still maintaining the rights?

A current gen 3d open world(think Bethesda) pokemon game has always sounded pretty appealing to me :awesomenod:
capturing and battling pokemon in real time and traveling to different gyms to get all the badges. Still would maintain the essence of the franchise while breathing new life into it as well. Because X and Y look terrible.

If Nintendo wishes to not fall behind and be boxed out of the console market completely, they're going to need to start appealing to people besides the "die hard buy anything by Nintendo" fans.. and 10 year olds.

btw good thread akira.


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Re: the newest Mario outing looks awesome. [Re: mushroom_sandwich]
    #19034053 - 10/26/13 02:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

they could fall behind, like you said. i wouldn't care. they've been around longer then anybody on the market still. right? :awesomenod: sometimes even the giants, they fall. when they do, all the talented people that work there will move on to new and possibly (probably) more exciting projects!

just look at Platinum Games... all their games are pretty old school BUT unique in all sorts of different respects... alot of the people that work at Platinum Games came from the flailing Capcom.

i mean, my point is, if Nintendo falls, then it's not gonna be like the end of an era, type dealie, for me anyways... i don't work there, and i was a child of the Sega vs Nintendo wars, so i didn't have a particular childhood attachment to Nintendo, so much as i did just... well all games in general, LOL...

the talent will just move on and maybe it'd be the best thing that happened? maybe. :yesnod:


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Re: the newest Mario outing looks awesome. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19034057 - 10/26/13 02:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Video games will be here long after Nintendo, Microsoft, Sony, etc have died and gone to heaven.


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Re: the newest Mario outing looks awesome. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19034059 - 10/26/13 02:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

yeah I see your point, I guess my inner child would just be a little sad to see Nintendo fall, but I really haven't bought anything Nintendo related in years so I guess it really wouldn't affect me much in the end.

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the talent will just move on and maybe it'd be the best thing that happened? maybe. :yesnod:



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