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Tangich


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Inocybe corydalina 1
#19024810 - 10/24/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Before we start, I just want to make it perfectly clear that I have no intention of eating these, I do not care whether they contain psilocybin or not, I do not eat psychoactive mushrooms, I just thought the green discoloration was very cool!
Found growing in a deciduous forest. The smell is powerful, extremely hard to describe, unlike any mushroom I’ve ever smelt. They remind me of an old aftershave I had, musk, crayons, I really have no idea what to compare it to. It's not actually pleasant, for a mushroom at least, but it's strangely addicting. The blue/green discoloration on the cap and base of the stem is not bruising, it was there from the beginning.
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Edited by Tangich (10/26/13 08:38 AM)
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RiverDweller1



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Re: Blue/green Inocybe ID [Re: Tangich]
#19024832 - 10/24/13 10:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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looks similar to Inocybe corydalina, but in your neck of the woods..
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Hashfinger
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Very cool find. The only green/blue inocybe i've ever heard of is I. corydalina. Would you compare the scent to cucumbers?
-------------------- Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus (Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus
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RiverDweller1



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Re: Blue/green Inocybe ID [Re: Hashfinger]
#19024873 - 10/24/13 10:36 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hashfinger said: The only green/blue inocybe i've ever heard of is I. corydalina. ...
There are also Inocybe aeruginascens and Inocybe calamistrata
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Re: Blue/green Inocybe ID [Re: Hashfinger]
#19024885 - 10/24/13 10:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Beautiful job on the pics! Man thats a purdy bruising there! Nice looking mushroom! Part of me wants to say thats a Gymnopilus sp. even tho Inocybe.
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Tangich


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Re: Blue/green Inocybe ID [Re: Hashfinger]
#19024887 - 10/24/13 10:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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No, definitely not like cucumbers. There maybe is a hint of 'fruitiness', but the main smell is extremely unusual. I. corydalina looks very close, but my finds have smoother caps then the pictures I found. They supposedly have a wide distribution, could be a variant of the specie.
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Hashfinger
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Quote:
RiverDweller1 said:
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Hashfinger said: The only green/blue inocybe i've ever heard of is I. corydalina. ...
There are also Inocybe aeruginascens and Inocybe calamistrata
Oh I forgot about calamistrata. Tangich you think that could be them?
-------------------- Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus (Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus
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Tangich


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Re: Blue/green Inocybe ID [Re: Hashfinger]
#19025247 - 10/24/13 11:57 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't think it's calamistrata, for now I'm happy to go with Inocybe corydalina. Could be a variant of the species, but close enough for me! Thanks everyone!
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Tangich


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Re: Blue/green Inocybe ID [Re: Tangich]
#19030840 - 10/25/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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After doing some more research of my own, I'm now quite sure this is indeed Inocybe corydalina. Only other species that looks similar is Inocybe haemacta, but the colour on these could be at most called orangeish, not really red at all. But anyway, assuming the green discoloration comes from miniscule concentrations of psilocybin, I have finally found my first 'magic mushroom'! Woohoo!
Edited by Tangich (10/25/13 01:07 PM)
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Blue-FunGuy
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Re: Blue/green Inocybe ID [Re: Tangich]
#19032278 - 10/25/13 05:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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MidnightCity
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Really cool!
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ZippyHippyinWA
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Just read about this today when I was studying inocybes. Wow freaky timing. Does look right tho. And this is your first psilocybe Tangich?! Wow dude I would have never thought it....
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You have really good photography and lighting skills!
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Re: Blue/green Inocybe ID [Re: AEL1911]
#19034172 - 10/26/13 03:51 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Inocybe corydalina all day! AWESOME bud! id save it in a jar
-------------------- ~~~~~~***Psilocybin Mushrooms***~~~~~~ _________A Practical Guide To Psilocybin Mushrooms_________ "Think about the species, not your scale". -NeoSporen "Mr. Joust, I see you don't actually partake in the psilocin, but it looks like it may partake in you!" -Gojira
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Re: Blue/green Inocybe ID [Re: Joust]
#19034479 - 10/26/13 07:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I find this taxon or a macroscopic lookalike often in Mexico. It smells like cinnamon when fresh, do you get that odor Tangich? It has no odor when dried. It has no psilocybin and does not stain blue, just is blue in parts.
I would not recommend eating it unless it turns blue in the places it is damaged. It would be great if your collection could be studied microscopically, molecjlarly and chemically. See if you can find more and get pics in their natural habitat and also after being abused.
What kind of trees were they under?
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Tangich


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Now that you say it, there is a hint of cinnamon. But the scent is really complex, can't be compared to any one thing. I noticed the complete lack of bruising, but several sources on the internet say that traces of psilocybin have been found in some tests. Not that it matters to me, I wouldn't eat any Inocybe for any reason. But I'll still claim I have found a psychedelic mushroom if someone asks me, until a newer test confirms the colouring is not due to psilocybin!  It's difficult to say what kind of tree they were associated with, they were growing in an area with lots of young trees and low growth, mostly beech, hornbeam, ash and some oak. I know I should have made a habitat shot, I immediately regretted not taking it, but the green cap got me excited and I automatically picked it. These were found in my usual chantarelle spot, so I'll keep an eye the next time I go there.
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Re: Blue/green Inocybe ID [Re: Tangich]
#19034573 - 10/26/13 08:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Awesome find sir!!! First active?!?! YESSIR!! congrats
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Tangich


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Re: Blue/green Inocybe ID [Re: art2312]
#19034592 - 10/26/13 08:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ha ha, thanks!  I never actually bothered looking for actives, even tough P. semilanceata and P. serbica probably do grow somewhere around, I just have no use for them. But I always thought it would be fun to find one accidentally! Btw, in this post Sporulator claims that I. corydalina is indeed active and doesn't contain muscarine. Not that I'll be testing it, but it's nice to know.
Edited by Tangich (10/26/13 08:53 AM)
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art2312
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Re: Blue/green Inocybe ID [Re: Tangich]
#19034798 - 10/26/13 09:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lol, very cool! I've been looking for actives since I started, but I found SO many amazing things while not finding actives, I don't even hunt actives anymore lol, I just hunt. If I find actives, great! If not, awesome
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Tangich


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Re: Blue/green Inocybe ID [Re: art2312]
#19039773 - 10/27/13 09:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I guess that's how most people here got started. It's awesome that you continued to spread your interest to other mushrooms and hunting in general! Actives are fun, but the act of hunting, of being in nature, is far more rewarding, in my opinion at last.
For me it was the other way around, I was learning about edible mushrooms from a very early age with my parents, hunting, identifying and eating wild mushrooms was a normal part of my life. Then in my early 20s I grew a couple active species, and quickly lost interest in tripping and drugs in general. But my interest in good food is only ever increasing, and finding other interesting species is always welcome!
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