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TheFoolOnTheHill
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Pluteus Salicinus in germany ...propably... id request
#19033154 - 10/25/13 09:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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possible Pluteus Salicinus picked in germany today
Habitat:

stem colour changed from snow white to something darker. i dunno if you could call this a bruising ??
Edited by TheFoolOnTheHill (10/26/13 12:28 AM)
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Re: Pluteus Salicinus in germany ...propably... id request [Re: TheFoolOnTheHill]
#19033175 - 10/25/13 09:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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TheFoolOnTheHill said: possible Pluteus Salicinus picked in germany today
Habitat:

stem colour changed from snow white to something darker. i dunno if you could call this a bruising ??

The term bruising normally designates a color change different from the normal color of the fungi, I would use the term "darkening" to describe what's happened in your sample. Looks like Pluteus cervinus.
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TheFoolOnTheHill
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Re: Pluteus Salicinus in germany ...propably... id request [Re: mylfgur]
#19033756 - 10/25/13 11:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Isn't that shroom too grey to be cervinus ? ...
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Re: Pluteus Salicinus in germany ...propably... id request [Re: TheFoolOnTheHill]
#19034038 - 10/26/13 02:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Salicinus is very possible, it's grey and the first photo shows a light grey going towards white on the edges of the cap. But the other photots show a darker grey color on the whole cap, making me doubt.. Could be some other Pluteus.
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Re: Pluteus Salicinus in germany ...propably... id request [Re: knarkkorven]
#19034268 - 10/26/13 04:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I agree with poster. ITS A SACK!!! nice find. that stem is turning from a nice white to a very hydrated yellowish white with the slightest hint hue...of blue...green......wait for it to dry a bit and look for the color change in day light.... anyway, nice find.
Edited by iatebadshrooms (10/26/13 04:59 AM)
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Re: Pluteus Salicinus in germany ...propably... id request [Re: iatebadshrooms]
#19034377 - 10/26/13 06:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I see exactly 0 bluing in those photos.
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TheFoolOnTheHill
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Re: Pluteus Salicinus in germany ...propably... id request [Re: Ran-D]
#19034422 - 10/26/13 07:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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haha look at that weird little thing ...

dunno if its bluing but something is goin on there ... anyway im gonna take a quick trip to the woods now see if i can find some more
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Re: Pluteus Salicinus in germany ...propably... id request [Re: TheFoolOnTheHill]
#19034732 - 10/26/13 09:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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TheFoolOnTheHill said: Isn't that shroom too grey to be cervinus ? ...
No.
TheFoolontheHill, What does it smell like, salicinus has a strong odor that it shares some of the active psilocbyes, a lot of the other inactive species of Pluteus that look like this smell like potatoes.
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Re: Pluteus Salicinus in germany ...propably... id request [Re: falcon] 1
#19035051 - 10/26/13 10:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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falcon said:
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TheFoolOnTheHill said: Isn't that shroom too grey to be cervinus ? ...
No.
TheFoolontheHill, What does it smell like, salicinus has a strong odor that it shares some of the active psilocbyes, a lot of the other inactive species of Pluteus that look like this smell like potatoes.
take a bite and see if you have 'radishes'... i found a boatload of cervius the other day (in ohio granted)
alan asked me if they had clamp connections lol... course i had to read bout what THOSE are
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Re: Pluteus Salicinus in germany ...propably... id request [Re: RuralAnomaly]
#19035311 - 10/26/13 11:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Since TheFoolOnTheHill is in Europe, his Pluteus salicinus might not get blue. We have a strain that lack psilocin. Instead, it has a large amount of psilocybin.
For reference, find "Psilocybin haltige Pilzarten im europäischen Raum Vorkommen, Morphologie und Inhaltsstoffe" by Jochen Gartz and Markus Berger or "Magic mushrooms around the world" by Jochen Gartz
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Re: Pluteus Salicinus in germany ...propably... id request [Re: knarkkorven]
#19035690 - 10/26/13 01:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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knarkkorven said: Since TheFoolOnTheHill is in Europe, his Pluteus salicinus might not get blue. We have a strain that lack psilocin. Instead, it has a large amount of psilocybin.
For reference, find "Psilocybin haltige Pilzarten im europäischen Raum Vorkommen, Morphologie und Inhaltsstoffe" by Jochen Gartz and Markus Berger or "Magic mushrooms around the world" by Jochen Gartz
i might be wrong here (probably am)...
but, i thought that psilocybin was converted to psilocin when ingested (which, makes you "trip")...??
if so, how can the above be true??
oh...and those look like cervinus to me...
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Re: Pluteus Salicinus in germany ...propably... id request [Re: bloodworm]
#19035792 - 10/26/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You are correct. The above is correct also; psilocybin does not cause blue staining.
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Re: Pluteus Salicinus in germany ...propably... id request [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#19036081 - 10/26/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes, psilocybin is converted to psilocin in an acidic environment, but is actually very hardy against oxidation. Psilocin on the other hand easily breaks down to the blue metabolite.
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TheFoolOnTheHill
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Re: Pluteus Salicinus in germany ...propably... id request [Re: falcon]
#19036717 - 10/26/13 05:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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falcon said:
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TheFoolOnTheHill said: Isn't that shroom too grey to be cervinus ? ...
No.
TheFoolontheHill, What does it smell like, salicinus has a strong odor that it shares some of the active psilocbyes, a lot of the other inactive species of Pluteus that look like this smell like potatoes.
The cap smells like absoluteley nothing ...
this is what the stem looks like now :
Edited by TheFoolOnTheHill (10/26/13 05:35 PM)
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