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Offlinezappaisgod
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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: Crystal G]
    #19031461 - 10/25/13 02:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
Found it.

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What are the subsidies that I keep hearing about?
Starting in 2014, individuals and families who do not qualify for Medicare or Medicaid and are not offered affordable healthcare through an employer, a refundable tax credit (or subsidy) will be available. The tax credit will be used to help offset the cost of coverage purchased through the Marketplace. Taxpayers with income between 100% and 400% of the federal poverty line who purchase insurance through the Marketplace will qualify. In 2013, individuals making less than $46,000 or a family of four making less than $94,000 would quality.





Seriously, you guys are criticizing the health insurance mandate, yet none of you have even bothered to READ how this is actually going to work? :facepalm: I swear, some people shouldn't have any opinion on politics if you haven't researched it.




I don't think you have


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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: Crystal G]
    #19031487 - 10/25/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Can I pay my deductible with food stamps?


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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19031511 - 10/25/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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VivaLaMushie said:
I'm interested in seeing how much a dental plan would be. I just spent $376 cash to get a tooth pulled this week.

But, I still can not afford health insurance even under obamacare so I simply will not apply. But then again I don't even make 15k a year but my bf makes good money. Will they tell me since I live w him that he'd have to pay for it? Or what?



You qualify for Medicaid


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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: morrowasted]
    #19031559 - 10/25/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I went directly to the insurance company for my obamacare. I had to get it because the state insurance company is closing, so my policy expires 12/31/13.

I get two companies to choose from. One company gets you the getto hospitals and doctors and the other gets you the good doctors and hospitals but it costs more.

They can't tell me the premiums for the gold plan but the bronze is $312 and the silver is $377. They don't have platinum. I will probably be paying more than $377 for the gold. I was paying $777.


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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: AWS]
    #19031587 - 10/25/13 03:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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AWS said:
I went directly to the insurance company for my obamacare. I had to get it because the state insurance company is closing, so my policy expires 12/31/13.

I get two companies to choose from. One company gets you the getto hospitals and doctors and the other gets you the good doctors and hospitals but it costs more.

They can't tell me the premiums for the gold plan but the bronze is $312 and the silver is $377. They don't have platinum. I will probably be paying more than $377 for the gold. I was paying $777.



I must find new insurance by 12/31 as well.  I paid quite a bit but I could do what I wanted and get the doctors I wanted and the policy would pay out of network docs the same they paid in network docs.  For Obamacare exchange in NY there is not one single plan that will pay out of network docs anything at all.  I don't want to use the in network pieces of shit.  I only want major medical, in fact.  Not an option.  I have lost choice.


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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19031610 - 10/25/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

My network is full of the best doctors and medical facilities in the state. I don't need to go out of network.

If I am out of state I am not sure what happens. I need to look that up. I don't go anywhere anyway, so it doesn't matter.


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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: Crystal G]
    #19031614 - 10/25/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
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VivaLaMushie said:
I will perform surgery on myself if need be.

My fiance got 7 stitches in his thumb sometime last year and even with insurance he still got a bill for over 2k dollars. Retarddddeddddddd I could've given him stitches for jcheap




Yeah my health insurance is shit. I have a $4500 deductible even for regular doctor's office visits, blood work, etc. which means I have to pay for everything out of pocket until I reach that amount. Just last year I paid $4000 for crap that didn't even require a hospital visit. No point in my insurance unless I get hospitalized, really. That's why I'm going on Obamacare.




So despite what everyone in this thread is saying you still get the impression that Obama care is going to give you more then your current plan is providing?


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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: AWS]
    #19031630 - 10/25/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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AWS said:
I went directly to the insurance company for my obamacare. I had to get it because the state insurance company is closing, so my policy expires 12/31/13.

I get two companies to choose from. One company gets you the getto hospitals and doctors and the other gets you the good doctors and hospitals but it costs more.

They can't tell me the premiums for the gold plan but the bronze is $312 and the silver is $377. They don't have platinum. I will probably be paying more than $377 for the gold. I was paying $777.




Obamacare isnt free, its a joke. If everyone had to pay, why is the government spending money anyway? Who thought this was a good idea?


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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: AWS]
    #19031661 - 10/25/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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AWS said:
My network is full of the best doctors and medical facilities in the state. I don't need to go out of network.


ORLY? What state is that?  Alaska?  I live just outside NYC and have connections.  I would like them to pay whoever I choose the same as they would pay their chosen quacks.  After all I paid them so that they would pay a doctor at least something
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If I am out of state I am not sure what happens. I need to look that up. I don't go anywhere anyway, so it doesn't matter.




If it's an emergency you surely get covered.

I don't want any coverage for anything other than major medical.  Why can't I buy that?


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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19031693 - 10/25/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I just want to buy insurance for my kidneys, uterus, teeth and liver.


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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: VivaLaMushie]
    #19031720 - 10/25/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Im just counting how many times pris asks for the link to the section lol


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OfflineCrystal G
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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19031728 - 10/25/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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imachavel said:
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Crystal G said:
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VivaLaMushie said:
I will perform surgery on myself if need be.

My fiance got 7 stitches in his thumb sometime last year and even with insurance he still got a bill for over 2k dollars. Retarddddeddddddd I could've given him stitches for jcheap




Yeah my health insurance is shit. I have a $4500 deductible even for regular doctor's office visits, blood work, etc. which means I have to pay for everything out of pocket until I reach that amount. Just last year I paid $4000 for crap that didn't even require a hospital visit. No point in my insurance unless I get hospitalized, really. That's why I'm going on Obamacare.




So despite what everyone in this thread is saying you still get the impression that Obama care is going to give you more then your current plan is providing?




Yes, because as I already explained for the millionth time, if I can use my insurance policy in my tax deductions, this means I will be able to afford a better plan than what I have.

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Obamacare relies 100% on forcing the group that has the least need for health insurance, young healthy people, to buy a product that is of little value to them.  It is fucking YOU over




What makes you think young people are always healthy, or that they don't need insurance? How many times do you think the average person has gone to the hospital by the time they are 20 years old? I would actually be very surprised if I met somebody who was in their 20's who has never been to the hospital at least once. They might not be as likely to suffer from heart attacks or strokes, but young people can often suffer from broken bones, influenza, drug overdose, disorders in need of psych meds, etc.

It's the same reason that the government has been forcing you to buy auto insurance for decades now. Does mandated automobile insurance make sense logically, or does it not?


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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19031737 - 10/25/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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AWS said:
My network is full of the best doctors and medical facilities in the state. I don't need to go out of network.


ORLY? What state is that?  Alaska?  I live just outside NYC and have connections.  I would like them to pay whoever I choose the same as they would pay their chosen quacks.  After all I paid them so that they would pay a doctor at least something




ya really, not alaska. Same doctors I have been going to.

You got connections like the mafia?
You gonna have the doctors whacked?



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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19031742 - 10/25/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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VivaLaMushie said:
I'm interested in seeing how much a dental plan would be. I just spent $376 cash to get a tooth pulled this week.

But, I still can not afford health insurance even under obamacare so I simply will not apply. But then again I don't even make 15k a year but my bf makes good money. Will they tell me since I live w him that he'd have to pay for it? Or what?



You qualify for Medicaid




I was under the impression that poverty alone does not simply make one eligible for Medicaid, and to be eligible for Medicaid she either needs to be pregnant or with a child? Because I know that if poverty was the sole determination for eligibility, every single college student would be able to apply for Medicaid.


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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: Crystal G]
    #19031794 - 10/25/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

When I was pregnant and was diagnosed with Hyperemesis, I did not qualify for government insurance because my fiance made $50 too much a month, they basically said if I needed health insurance that bad he could afford it for me.
Then when I had the abortion they gave me an even harder time saying I definately didn't qualify because I killed my child, basically.


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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: VivaLaMushie]
    #19031842 - 10/25/13 04:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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VivaLaMushie said:
When I was pregnant and was diagnosed with Hyperemesis, I did not qualify for government insurance because my fiance made $50 too much a month, they basically said if I needed health insurance that bad he could afford it for me.
Then when I had the abortion they gave me an even harder time saying I definately didn't qualify because I killed my child, basically.




Wow. I am really surprised that was their attitude towards you. I am surprised that they didn't offer you AIM (Access for Infants and Mothers), which is what they give to pregnant mothers who don't qualify for Medicaid, or if they have medical insurance with a maternity plan that exceeds a $500 deductible, or if the totality of their bills would cost more than 10% of their gross annual income.

Especially since you and your fiance weren't even married, legally he shouldn't have even been considered a provider. I'm very surprised they didn't help you more. Especially considering Medicaid patients are covered even for termination or miscarriage, and up to 3 months after since they even cover postpartum.


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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: Crystal G]
    #19031848 - 10/25/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Crystal G said:


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zappaisgod said:
Obamacare relies 100% on forcing the group that has the least need for health insurance, young healthy people, to buy a product that is of little value to them.  It is fucking YOU over




What makes you think young people are always healthy, or that they don't need insurance? How many times do you think the average person has gone to the hospital by the time they are 20 years old? I would actually be very surprised if I met somebody who was in their 20's who has never been to the hospital at least once. They might not be as likely to suffer from heart attacks or strokes, but young people can often suffer from broken bones, influenza, drug overdose, disorders in need of psych meds, etc.




The group is always healthy.  Some individuals in the group are not but that is not relevant to large population demographics.  Why do you think they put in the individual mandate in the first place?  Come on Crystal, you're smarter than that.
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It's the same reason that the government has been forcing you to buy auto insurance for decades now. Does mandated automobile insurance make sense logically, or does it not?




I remember when Obama trotted out this analogy and it was irrefutable evidence that he is either a liar or an idiot.  Number one, the government does not force you to buy a car.  In fact, they penalize you by forcing you to subsidize public transportation for those who do not.  Number two, the only insurance you have to buy is liability insurance to cover the damage you might cause to others by operating a 4,000 pound gasoline bomb at speeds often in excess of 60 miles an hour.  The damage it can cause is immense.  Further, every business is required to carry liability insurance not to protect the business but to protect others.  Number three, the government does not require you to have comp and collision.  Your lender does if you borrow money to purchase the car.  Mortgage companies do the same thing with real estate.

You're smarter than this, crystal.


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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: AWS]
    #19031856 - 10/25/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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AWS said:
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zappaisgod said:
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AWS said:
My network is full of the best doctors and medical facilities in the state. I don't need to go out of network.


ORLY? What state is that?  Alaska?  I live just outside NYC and have connections.  I would like them to pay whoever I choose the same as they would pay their chosen quacks.  After all I paid them so that they would pay a doctor at least something




ya really, not alaska. Same doctors I have been going to.

You got connections like the mafia?
You gonna have the doctors whacked?






No.  Top doctor in the family who can get me appointments that most people cannot and who are not members of any plan.  The best aren't.


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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: Crystal G]
    #19031866 - 10/25/13 04:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
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zappaisgod said:
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VivaLaMushie said:
I'm interested in seeing how much a dental plan would be. I just spent $376 cash to get a tooth pulled this week.

But, I still can not afford health insurance even under obamacare so I simply will not apply. But then again I don't even make 15k a year but my bf makes good money. Will they tell me since I live w him that he'd have to pay for it? Or what?



You qualify for Medicaid




I was under the impression that poverty alone does not simply make one eligible for Medicaid, and to be eligible for Medicaid she either needs to be pregnant or with a child? Because I know that if poverty was the sole determination for eligibility, every single college student would be able to apply for Medicaid.



I believe this is wrong.  I believe lots of college students do qualify for medicaid as long as they are not listed as somebody else's dependent


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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19031899 - 10/25/13 04:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

My step grandfather had the company limo pick him up and drive him to the airport where the company jet flew him 2000 miles to the the top skin cancer doctor in the country.  Then flew him back the same day. I want my insurance to do that.


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