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Anonymous #22

Re: Growin for income question [Re: Anonymous #16] * 1
    #18995588 - 10/18/13 01:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Be like a fart in the wind.


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Anonymous #21

Re: Growin for income question [Re: Anonymous #22]
    #18997818 - 10/18/13 10:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:rofldrunk:


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Anonymous #11

Re: Growin for income question [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19006339 - 10/20/13 10:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Are you in a house or an apartment, OP? How close are your neighbors? Where are you getting the substrate sent to? Are you planning on getting that stuff sent to your house all at once or via multiple shipments? If this is gonna be a constant thing, it might raise suspicion.

IMO, it's less shady to pasteurize yourself.

Living situation is also key, I can't stress this enough. I won't even consider it until I'm in a house that I own without room mates.. and even then, it carries the greatest risk because I could lose the crib.

C'est la vie. :awesome: Good luck.


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Anonymous #19

Re: Growin for income question [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #19006502 - 10/20/13 11:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #11 said:
it carries the greatest risk because I could lose the crib.

C'est la vie. :awesome: Good luck.




if ya dont lose a house or 2 to the grow,
or, to taxes,
it just aint a party.


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Anonymous #23

Re: Growin for income question [Re: Anonymous #19]
    #19012057 - 10/22/13 03:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

not saying i would do this, but.....

it would be a lot of work for a single person to churn out that much every month.  yes, there are long periods of "waiting" in the growing process, but there would also be a few consecutive days of LOTS of bullshit working (making grain jars, g2g'ing, agar-ing lol) that i don't see how you could accomplish if you have a job or a life :smile:

however, if you teamed up with a trusted someone who didn't have much going on who could help you with the tedious work, i think you could pull off a 10lb monthly net harvest.  i have a good job, but my dear bf of 7 years isn't working right now, so it would be very possible for us to be doing this very thing RIGHT THIS MINUTE :mushroom2::evil:

also, owning/renting an actual HOUSE vs APARTMENT is key.

i don't know why ppl act like there is no wai you could move lbs per month, with the right connections it is mind blowingly easy.  is this a good life plan?  nooooooo, but some people are willing to do what others aren't, and have been since the beginning of time.


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Anonymous #24

Re: Growin for income question [Re: Anonymous #23]
    #19015978 - 10/22/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I used to buy pounds off a dude in the 90's.  He gave them to me in a plastic shopping bag and I'd find ways to make them disappear pretty quick.  The price was rather cheap and he would have had to grow a lot to make a decent living like that. a grand per lb.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Growin for income question [Re: Anonymous #24]
    #19031221 - 10/25/13 01:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

In this scenario its a house, no roommates. i have trustworthy hands if i need them while adjusting, but i could feasibly handle it myself once the timing is perfected.

Although there is nothing unlawful about getting shit sent to you in the mail, it might be a good idea to scatter between multiple addresses so that in the unlikely event that the operation becomes compromised by an investigation, there is one less puzzle piece.

This would mean bringing others in on the action, which creates the worst kind of risk that can utterly ruin you in seconds, so considering that the perfectly legal boxes are plenty-full and weigh a shit ton, i will simply have them held for pickup.

This eliminates the suspicious neighbors. I doubt the dude at the mail office gives two shits about that shit. Hes probably just happy his ass didn't have to carry it all the way to my door.

Either way I'm still not convinced that i should abandon ordering for self preparation

Good input fellow shroomerities, ya caused a head scratch or two for sure.


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Anonymous #23

Re: Growin for income question [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19031594 - 10/25/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If you're talking about getting spores sent to you in the mail, I wouldn't even worry about that at all (unless you're in one of those pesky 3 states).  Really, all you'd need would be one single shipment of a few spore syringes/prints to get you going and once you have some petri dishes or master grain jars going, there's no need to ever have to order spores again - apart from that initial first order.  So don't stress so much about receiving that first and only shipment of spores to start you off.

And the main reasons ppl are pressing so hard for you to make your own grain jars & substrate mix is:
1.  cheaper  (but yes, more time consuming)
2.  practicality in case shit fucks up  (if you make it yourself you can always trust that it was prepared correctly because YOU did it and you know exactly how and what was done to prepare the materials.......and if your grow suddenly comes down with mold, but you didn't pre-make ANY of the materials yourself, it will be impossible for you to pinpoint what/who/where in the process shit went south because you didn't have a hand in making any of the stuff. and trust me, when you get a contam problem, you WILL  want to be able to pinpoint  what went wrong because you can't fix what you don't know is fucked up).

gl to ya :cool:


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Anonymous #1

Re: Growin for income question [Re: Anonymous #23]
    #19033611 - 10/25/13 10:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

In this scenario, there are already two strains properly isolated on petri dishes.

It surprises me that these businesses can thrive so well selling shit if it aint good shit. Now i have had no bad experience with a vendor and i see no reason why he would not be able to help me understand/pinpoint any contamination issues if and when they arise.
The process is not complicated to understand or explain, and this person does this for a legitimate living. Not to mention that some vendors will even replace the product if your spending enough money.

If i lose a tub or two, i cant replace the fungus. But with the right choices and timing i can easily make up for it with the replaced product and a few extra master grain jars in time for the next cycle. That's if i decide its even worth making up for. Worst case scenario the lot of the shit is bad and it all gets replaced and I'm behind a month, previous experience and raving reviews over some of these businesses would suggest that this situation would be a first. The odds and math say that any losses can be overcome or would be minimal enough in the scheme of profits to ignore.

I say if you know and trust the vendor, have the money, and accept the minimal risks, your odds of contams are probably even either way.

I don't have an unlimited supply of shit, grain and additives, nor do i have a giant autoclave and an army of pressure cookers manned by trained employees but i sure as hell know somebody does. That somebody can do it faster, better, and has been doing it longer than me with much greater results and they can prove it with established reputation and repeated demonstration.

Id even venture to guess that the source of contams when ordering subs and spawn is way more often then not the fault of the customer and not the vendor. Especially with some vendors.

Who likes to do this part anyway? That shit sucks. Send me a bag ready to go that i can cut open and go please. I'm interested in the fun part.

I mean am i making sense or no? Ill admit there are assumptions in my argument and only time will tell, but the idea of a vendor that provides a 100% quality product and knows what he is doing and does it with pride is not far fetched. If he is relying on people like me to support his living id imagine his business might very well be most successful if ran as described.

But what do i know im just an anonymous dreamer in the endless and fractal universe of possibility trying to make sense of what is put and front of me and do the best i can with it.


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Anonymous #19

Re: Growin for income question [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19034546 - 10/26/13 08:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:


I don't have an unlimited supply of shit, grain and additives, nor do i have a giant autoclave and an army of pressure cookers manned by trained employees but i sure as hell know somebody does.






thnx, but im not a vendor.

you make it sound like unlimited supply , advanced equip,
and a team of assistants, are a bad thing...

what you have in mind, could work in theory,
problem is , your supply line is limited to mail and vendor.

the way i see it, ya can take packages at the door from mail order,
or ya can do it yourself, and lay flares for supply trucks at the loading dock.......with no supply line limits.

also, keep in mind 10 dry is a kitty pool operation.
100 wet, means several hundred pounds wet bulk sub.
your gonna need better teks than traditional bulks, and youll need several hundred  $ in enviro handling , if ya think your gonna air it all out with a wally box fan.......good luck.

big ops, arent as easy as it would seem.
otherwise half the peeps here would have run a bucket loader thru a  cow field, and declared victory already.


Edited by Anonymous (10/26/13 08:22 AM)


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