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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: Prisoner#1]
#19030693 - 10/25/13 11:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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wow even a better deal huh? glad we got this for the cheap price of 600 million dollars.
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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: Crystal G]
#19030698 - 10/25/13 11:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: hahahaha.... why not post that section of the mandate here for all of us to read and then tell us how that affects those that dont have to file taxes, dont have jobs or are too poor to pay for the fucking insurance in the first place before it can even become a tax deduction
Dude, if you read the mandate then you would also know that those who fall below the poverty line (i.e. those that aren't on the "legal" payroll or don't have jobs) can actually get their health insurance sponsored by the government. Basically they expanded healthcare coverage to people who are poor but don't qualify for Medicare or Medicaid. Two programs which I might add, that both Democrats and Republicans are in favor of.
I CANNOT READ WHAT YOU HAVENT POSTED AND I DONT WANT TO RELY ON HEARSAY FROM SOMEONE SO UNRELIABLE THAT THEY BELIEVE THAT IT WAS GOING TO PROVIDE FREE CONTRACEPTIVES AND ALL THAT OTHER CRAP
POST THE SECTION OF THE BILL THAT PROVES YOUR CLAIM
I printed it out from the healthcare website and I don't remember the exact URL, but it's under the "Affordable Care Act and You FAQ" section.
Note that I was actually incorrect about one thing, see below:
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Who is required to have medical coverage? All US citizens and legal residents, with a few exceptions, are required to have minimum essential coverage. Exceptions include individuals: -with religious objections -not living in the United States -In prison -Not able to pay for coverage because it costs more than eight percent of their household income -Whose household income is below 100 percent of the federal poverty level -Who have a hardship waiver -Who are without coverage for no more than three continuous months in a calendar year
Give me a few minutes to find the part about tax-deductions. This print-out is like 30 pages long.
FROM THE BILL NOT THE PROPAGANDA MACHINE
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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: Crystal G]
#19030700 - 10/25/13 11:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Found it.
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What are the subsidies that I keep hearing about? Starting in 2014, individuals and families who do not qualify for Medicare or Medicaid and are not offered affordable healthcare through an employer, a refundable tax credit (or subsidy) will be available. The tax credit will be used to help offset the cost of coverage purchased through the Marketplace. Taxpayers with income between 100% and 400% of the federal poverty line who purchase insurance through the Marketplace will qualify. In 2013, individuals making less than $46,000 or a family of four making less than $94,000 would quality.
Seriously, you guys are criticizing the health insurance mandate, yet none of you have even bothered to READ how this is actually going to work? I swear, some people shouldn't have any opinion on politics if you haven't researched it.
Edited by Crystal G (10/25/13 11:58 AM)
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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: Prisoner#1]
#19030701 - 10/25/13 11:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: Prisoner#1]
#19030710 - 10/25/13 11:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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:roflmao:
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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: Prisoner#1]
#19030714 - 10/25/13 11:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i heard they asked people whether they like obamacare and like 60% said no then they asked whether they like the affordable healthcare act(obamacare) and 90% liked it when told what it was without using the word obamacare most people are just ignorant of what it is and listen to some lying assholes who want to keep us poor and hopeless. i like the affordable healthcare act i will finally have insurance next year FUCK YEA!! hust stop callin it obamacare and people may actually pay attention and be less ignorant its the AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE ACT GOT IT GOOD!!
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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: lighthouse09]
#19030719 - 10/25/13 11:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pris, haven't you had enough problem with Uncle Sam? Why do you want to go to court over a law that has been passed?
Do like everybody else, be pissed and and submissive
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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: lighthouse09]
#19030726 - 10/25/13 11:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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lighthouse09 said: i heard they asked people whether they like obamacare and like 60% said no then they asked whether they like the affordable healthcare act(obamacare) and 90% liked it when told what it was without using the word obamacare most people are just ignorant of what it is and listen to some lying assholes who want to keep us poor and hopeless. i like the affordable healthcare act i will finally have insurance next year FUCK YEA!! hust stop callin it obamacare and people may actually pay attention and be less ignorant its the AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE ACT GOT IT GOOD!!
nother kool-aid drinker.. so are you gonna get free health care? = someone else pays for it for you
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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: Crystal G]
#19030737 - 10/25/13 11:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: Found it.
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What are the subsidies that I keep hearing about? Starting in 2014, individuals and families who do not qualify for Medicare or Medicaid and are not offered affordable healthcare through an employer, a refundable tax credit (or subsidy) will be available. The tax credit will be used to help offset the cost of coverage purchased through the Marketplace. Taxpayers with income between 100% and 400% of the federal poverty line who purchase insurance through the Marketplace will qualify. In 2013, individuals making less than $46,000 or a family of four making less than $94,000 would quality.
Seriously, you guys are criticizing the health insurance mandate, yet none of you have even bothered to READ how this is actually going to work? I swear, some people shouldn't have any opinion on politics if you haven't researched it.
Edit: It was from a .gov website... 
"The tax credit will be used to HELP offset the cost of the coverage"
How much help? 10% of costs? 50%? Not much is my guess.
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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: B_BOY] 1
#19030742 - 10/25/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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B_BOY said: wow even a better deal huh? glad we got this for the cheap price of 600 million dollars.
$600 million, that's just the cost of the website
obamacare is costing us far more, $1.9 trillion according to the Congressional Budget Office
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/cbo-obamacare-cost-1930-trillion-leave-30-million-uninsured_649066.html
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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: Crystal G]
#19030749 - 10/25/13 12:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: Found it.
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What are the subsidies that I keep hearing about? Starting in 2014, individuals and families who do not qualify for Medicare or Medicaid and are not offered affordable healthcare through an employer, a refundable tax credit (or subsidy) will be available. The tax credit will be used to help offset the cost of coverage purchased through the Marketplace. Taxpayers with income between 100% and 400% of the federal poverty line who purchase insurance through the Marketplace will qualify. In 2013, individuals making less than $46,000 or a family of four making less than $94,000 would quality.
Seriously, you guys are criticizing the health insurance mandate, yet none of you have even bothered to READ how this is actually going to work? I swear, some people shouldn't have any opinion on politics if you haven't researched it.
did you bother to read the bill?
that's why I'm asking you to post the shit that was in the affordable care act, not the shit off some obama run website
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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: qman]
#19030750 - 10/25/13 12:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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"The tax credit will be used to HELP offset the cost of the coverage"
How much help? 10% of costs? 50%? Not much is my guess.
I'm guessing, like with all other social programs of the government, it will be based on a sliding scale depending on how much income you have, and how much you are paying for housing and what geographical location you reside in and all that.
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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: Prisoner#1]
#19030752 - 10/25/13 12:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm interested in seeing how much a dental plan would be. I just spent $376 cash to get a tooth pulled this week.
But, I still can not afford health insurance even under obamacare so I simply will not apply. But then again I don't even make 15k a year but my bf makes good money. Will they tell me since I live w him that he'd have to pay for it? Or what?
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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: Prisoner#1]
#19030757 - 10/25/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: Found it.
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What are the subsidies that I keep hearing about? Starting in 2014, individuals and families who do not qualify for Medicare or Medicaid and are not offered affordable healthcare through an employer, a refundable tax credit (or subsidy) will be available. The tax credit will be used to help offset the cost of coverage purchased through the Marketplace. Taxpayers with income between 100% and 400% of the federal poverty line who purchase insurance through the Marketplace will qualify. In 2013, individuals making less than $46,000 or a family of four making less than $94,000 would quality.
Seriously, you guys are criticizing the health insurance mandate, yet none of you have even bothered to READ how this is actually going to work? I swear, some people shouldn't have any opinion on politics if you haven't researched it.
did you bother to read the bill?
that's why I'm asking you to post the shit that was in the affordable care act, not the shit off some obama run website
How could you, being as opinionated as you are about Obamacare, have not even realized there is a subsidy for people who cannot afford health insurance? I mean clearly since you are so outspoken about the subject, you would think that you would have done your research.
Copy and paste what I quoted, and you will find the same exact information on a ton of other website, mostly health insurance and healthcare websites.
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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: qman]
#19030762 - 10/25/13 12:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: Found it.
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What are the subsidies that I keep hearing about? Starting in 2014, individuals and families who do not qualify for Medicare or Medicaid and are not offered affordable healthcare through an employer, a refundable tax credit (or subsidy) will be available. The tax credit will be used to help offset the cost of coverage purchased through the Marketplace. Taxpayers with income between 100% and 400% of the federal poverty line who purchase insurance through the Marketplace will qualify. In 2013, individuals making less than $46,000 or a family of four making less than $94,000 would quality.
Seriously, you guys are criticizing the health insurance mandate, yet none of you have even bothered to READ how this is actually going to work? I swear, some people shouldn't have any opinion on politics if you haven't researched it.
Edit: It was from a .gov website... 
"The tax credit will be used to HELP offset the cost of the coverage"
How much help? 10% of costs? 50%? Not much is my guess.
dont forget, a tax credit means you still pay out of pocket (paycheck or what ever) and then at the end of the year you get a tax break, how does that help your family if insurance is 30%+ of your income and you went from a $450/week paycheck to a $250/week paycheck. how will those people survive until tax day?
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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: VivaLaMushie]
#19030767 - 10/25/13 12:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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No matter the price, the care will be sub-standard at best, then when you have a life threatening problem, oh well, like Obama said you will just get a pill and be sent home
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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: VivaLaMushie]
#19030771 - 10/25/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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VivaLaMushie said: I'm interested in seeing how much a dental plan would be. I just spent $376 cash to get a tooth pulled this week.
But, I still can not afford health insurance even under obamacare so I simply will not apply. But then again I don't even make 15k a year but my bf makes good money. Will they tell me since I live w him that he'd have to pay for it? Or what?
No, you and your boyfriend are not considered a "household" simply because you two live together, unless you have a civil union or something that is legally recognized. Since it's pretty reasonable to assume your health insurance would cost over 8% of your household requirements, you probably won't be required to get health insurance. Or if you do, once it's credited to your taxes, in your case since your income is so low I'm assuming it will be practically almost free.
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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: Crystal G]
#19030779 - 10/25/13 12:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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How could you, being as opinionated as you are about Obamacare, have not even realized there is a subsidy for people who cannot afford health insurance? I mean clearly since you are so outspoken about the subject, you would think that you would have done your research.
Copy and paste what I quoted, and you will find the same exact information on a ton of other website, mostly health insurance and healthcare websites.
POST THE SECTION OF THE FUCKING BILL ALREADY
it doesnt matter how many libtard sites parrot the obama scriptures
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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: VivaLaMushie]
#19030787 - 10/25/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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yes its supposed to be free if you make that much and yes i am glad to let taxes pay for it with the fucked up way we run this horrible country rich dont care or understand theres people that got no way to better themselves ive been there andthis is actually helping and yes id gladly pay 25%40% taxes if everyone got healthcare and we started actually helping the poor and homeless instead of pointing fingers.. i do know and i love it there B-boy so suck a bag of dicks
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Re: Fox News: I was an Obamacarecare guineapig [Re: B_BOY]
#19030788 - 10/25/13 12:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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B_BOY said: No matter the price, the care will be sub-standard at best, then when you have a life threatening problem, oh well, like Obama said you will just get a pill and be sent home

I will perform surgery on myself if need be.
My fiance got 7 stitches in his thumb sometime last year and even with insurance he still got a bill for over 2k dollars. Retarddddeddddddd I could've given him stitches for cheap
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