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Dunking whole grain brown rice cakes
    #19030229 - 10/25/13 09:40 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hey guys,

After my cakes reach full colonization and I dunk them for 12 hours it makes the rice inside the cake mushy and start to rot and always contaminates. Is there any way I can add moisture to my whole grain BR cakes that won't cause this problem? I believe I'm losing a lot of my yield with no dunking what so ever and just relying on the original moisture from when I prepped the jars.

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Re: Dunking whole grain brown rice cakes [Re: trunks]
    #19030592 - 10/25/13 11:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

your problem might be not letting your brf cakes consolidate long enough after they have become fully colonized. let them sit for a week after they look fully colonized then dunk.


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Re: Dunking whole grain brown rice cakes [Re: karp]
    #19030609 - 10/25/13 11:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

only suggestion is maybe a spray bottle full of water.


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Re: Dunking whole grain brown rice cakes [Re: trunks]
    #19030650 - 10/25/13 11:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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trunks said:
I believe I'm losing a lot of my yield with no dunking what so ever and just relying on the original moisture from when I prepped the jars.



EXACTLY!

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Is there any way I can add moisture to my whole grain BR cakes that won't cause this problem?



BOTTOM-WATERING


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After my cakes reach full colonization and I dunk them for 12 hours it makes the rice inside the cake mushy and start to rot and always contaminates.



This is quite unfortunate.
It's probably because rice doesn't need NEARLY that long to soak up water, it's not like a PF cake... In the "dunk your grains before spawning" thread it's noted that just 5-10 minutes of soaking broken-up grains is plenty. Your cakes aren't broken up so it's not that fast, but 12 hours may be too much.
However there's a good chance you have some bacteria issues. Ensure your grains are sterilized thoroughly. If they're close but not quite, it's very possible for mycelium to colonize the outside of the grains while a bacterial culture is beginning to take hold inside them.


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Re: Dunking whole grain brown rice cakes [Re: trunks]
    #19032108 - 10/25/13 05:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I might try the bottom watering tek but Im just afraid that the bottom will start to rot as well. I will probably try bottom watering with one cake and then try dunking a cake for just one hour in the fridge. Compare the results :takingnotes:


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Re: Dunking whole grain brown rice cakes [Re: trunks]
    #19032125 - 10/25/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If the cake is healthy, bottom-watering won't cause problems. I've done countless.

Why in the fridge? It doesn't help anything


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Re: Dunking whole grain brown rice cakes [Re: Violet]
    #19032395 - 10/25/13 06:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

bottom watering is fine.


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Re: Dunking whole grain brown rice cakes [Re: trunks]
    #19032649 - 10/25/13 07:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You may have better luck if you use flour instead of the whole grain.

This opinion is based on the presumption that you are making cakes with vermiculite following the same basic recipe as the standard PF Cake, except you're using whole grain rice.

If you are going to continue to use whole rice, then it's my opinion you should be sterilizing with a pressure cooker, which you may already be.

However you are preparing things, I would suggest moving away from using whole grain rice. You should start using a hardier grain or flour (in the case of PF tek)


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Re: Dunking whole grain brown rice cakes [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #19032715 - 10/25/13 07:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

straight WBR in PP5 , these can be bottom watered.



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Re: Dunking whole grain brown rice cakes [Re: anne halonium]
    #19032787 - 10/25/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not sure if I've ever posted anything to you directly, but I want to set the record straight:

I don't give 2 shits about anything you do. I'm not remotely interested.

I gave my opinion, in the form of an opinion, to the OP.

Replying to me will always be pointless, to me.

Now, if you will excuse me, I'm headed back to the ostrich farm in the pestilent Dark Ages.


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Re: Dunking whole grain brown rice cakes [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #19032806 - 10/25/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

didnt notice you were here really.
just responding  as the thread rolled.

my interest here is informing the OP, that not everyone dunks,
and that he has options.

cakes , can be bottom watered.

touchy tonight arent we?


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Re: Dunking whole grain brown rice cakes [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #19032826 - 10/25/13 07:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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karp said:
your problem might be not letting your brf cakes consolidate long enough after they have become fully colonized. let them sit for a week after they look fully colonized then dunk.



:thumbup:

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If the cake is healthy, bottom-watering won't cause problems. I've done countless.

Why in the fridge? It doesn't help anything



:thumbup:
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SpitballJedi said:
You may have better luck if you use flour instead of the whole grain.

This opinion is based on the presumption that you are making cakes with vermiculite following the same basic recipe as the standard PF Cake, except you're using whole grain rice.

If you are going to continue to use whole rice, then it's my opinion you should be sterilizing with a pressure cooker, which you may already be.

However you are preparing things, I would suggest moving away from using whole grain rice. You should start using a hardier grain or flour (in the case of PF tek)



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Re: Dunking whole grain brown rice cakes [Re: anne halonium]
    #19032874 - 10/25/13 07:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Nope. Not sensitive. But thanks for the phony attempt to make me feel like a nobody. The fact that you tried means a bunch. Turnabout is fair play I guess. Fair enough.

But since you replied to me, and your reply was clearly related to what I just posted about switching off whole rice, I just wanted take the opportunity to make myself sparkling clear.

Next time, reply to your target.
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Re: Dunking whole grain brown rice cakes [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #19034589 - 10/26/13 08:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

my sincerest apologies...........



" OOPS!, sorry officer, i didnt see the ostrich in the cross walk."

flying feathers aside, yes you can bottom water grain cores and cakes.
although i wouldnt recommend bottom watering for bulks.


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