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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: shakta]
    #1908863 - 09/12/03 09:54 AM (17 years, 23 days ago)

And you dare call yourself conservative,LOL! If you were in the least bit "conservative" an active,open mind is a prerequisite.As I said I am politicaly conservative and have lived through MANY political "slight of hand" but this is at least worthy of serious inquiry.The timeline stated in several places (with official references) is strong evidence if not of complicity then of GROSS incompetance.If you are NOT conservative enough to acknowledge the egregious assault on the constitutuion led by "conservatives"(ie;WOD,patriot act,victory act)and at least curious about why our air defense "stood down" then you are nothing more than a sycophant of the present regime not a true conservative.
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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: st0nedphucker]
    #1908864 - 09/12/03 09:54 AM (17 years, 23 days ago)

ELVIS Knew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: whiterasta]
    #1908896 - 09/12/03 10:20 AM (17 years, 23 days ago)

Well said!... For a righty  :grin: 


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: whiterasta]
    #1908912 - 09/12/03 10:29 AM (17 years, 23 days ago)

I never claimed to be a conservative anyway. I don't care what you think of me personally. This entire argument has been done before, and links were provided that showed how ridiculous this theory is. I'm done here. If you want to believe this stuff that is fine. That is your right.


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: shakta]
    #1908917 - 09/12/03 10:33 AM (17 years, 23 days ago)

Do you bump into alot of things? It must be dangerous walking around with your eyes closed the whole time... :grin: 


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: GazzBut]
    #1908932 - 09/12/03 10:45 AM (17 years, 23 days ago)

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And you dare call yourself conservative,LOL!




Yay lets push people into categories they're much easier to rubbish then....


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: shakta]
    #1908945 - 09/12/03 10:50 AM (17 years, 23 days ago)

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I never claimed to be a conservative anyway. I don't care what you think of me personally. This entire argument has been done before, and links were provided that showed how ridiculous this theory is. I'm done here. If you want to believe this stuff that is fine. That is your right 




Internet connection...10-60$/mo

Spouting neocon rhetoric...free

Credibility....priceless

I am not sure the price of freedom.Some think it is blood.I prefer to think it is sweat, as one must actively think in order to keep others from stealing it.This requires more effort than shooting shadows like paranoid cowards.We are doing a drive by on the middle east to take over some turf just like happens every day in the ghetto.WE ARE THE BADDEST PIMP ON THE STREET!And were making Hoes all over the world right now.That's not conservative and it damn sure ain't about freedom, Eh?
WR :rolleyes:
 


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: st0nedphucker]
    #1908955 - 09/12/03 10:58 AM (17 years, 23 days ago)

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And you dare call yourself conservative,LOL!


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Yay lets push people into categories they're much easier to rubbish then.... 





Get off it son I've seen far too many posts calling anyone who disagrees with the Bush company a "libbie" to feel bad about questioning a persons actual conservatism.If you wanna push what is seen as a Neo-conservative POV then you better be able to defend it.
If not....Shut the hell up :wink:
WR :rolleyes: 


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: whiterasta]
    #1908970 - 09/12/03 11:05 AM (17 years, 23 days ago)

Slight difference my egocentric friend, whenever I use the term "libbie" its in paranthesis.


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: whiterasta]
    #1908976 - 09/12/03 11:07 AM (17 years, 23 days ago)

I don't care if you call me a conservative or a neo-con or whatever. It has no effect on me. I have called people here libbies plenty of times. I disagree with Bush on many things. Gay marriage, the out of control spending, and a lot of his social policies. I don't think that he knew about 9-11 though. You can subvert the topic by calling me names, or making fun of me all you want. I am simply stating that this theory is crap.


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: shakta]
    #1908992 - 09/12/03 11:14 AM (17 years, 22 days ago)

Admitting when you are wrong is a good thing to do. Unfortunately some here don't grasp the concept at all.

changing your stance when presented with overwhelming
evidence that discredits or sheds new light on your current
beliefs, certainly, is noble and shows flexibility and reason.

but when stances are changed frequently and repeatedly
it begins to compromise the credibility of the person, especially
when they fight so emotionally for previously held-cum-flip
flopped beliefs.

furthermore, call me a nut job, but my complaint is pretty
clear and does not require a whole lot of *stretch*.

let me make it really simple for you people:

1. president knew going into the conference, as he has
previously admitted, that the first plane had flown into
the wtc.

and president continued with silly speaking op even though
we were experiencing a national tragedy, possibly an external
attack.

2. president, admittedly, was told during speaking op that
second plane had struck second target.

and president continued with silly speaking op, when it was
perfectly clear to the rest of the nation watching that we
WERE definitely being attacked.

if you refute those two points, you are senseless and simply
ignoring the simple facts of the situation.

with other evidence, you can make all sorts of assuptions
surrounding cheney and rummy's longstanding relationship
and existing plans for caspian sea oil reserves and the like,
but let's focus on the single most disgusting crime here:

why didn't the president act when he was needed most?

to wrap up, you've stated that you haven't and won't watch
the video...nutjob this, convict that, but by refusing to examine
the information from those that hold the opposite view as you,
you are doing nothing more than relegating yourself to your
current position without having all the information pertinent to it.

independent investigations NOW!


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: afoaf]
    #1909053 - 09/12/03 11:38 AM (17 years, 22 days ago)

Quote:

1. president knew going into the conference, as he has
previously admitted, that the first plane had flown into
the wtc.

and president continued with silly speaking op even though
we were experiencing a national tragedy, possibly an external
attack.

2. president, admittedly, was told during speaking op that
second plane had struck second target.

and president continued with silly speaking op, when it was
perfectly clear to the rest of the nation watching that we
WERE definitely being attacked.




How does this prove he knew ahead of time that it was going to happen? How do you know that they were not taking the time to create a plan to move the President? What would you have had him do? Did you expect him to jump in the fighter jet parked outside and go stop the planes or what?

He new we were being attacked, and he addressed the nation from the school. Then they hauled ass to AF1. Their actions just don't seem unreasonable to me.


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: Learyfan]
    #1909087 - 09/12/03 11:57 AM (17 years, 22 days ago)

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Learyfan said:




 






I love how he is holding the book upside down.LOL!

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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: shakta]
    #1909094 - 09/12/03 12:00 PM (17 years, 22 days ago)

shakta probably tried to watch it, but couldnt read fast enough for the slides and got frustrated :wink:


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: DoctorJ]
    #1909097 - 09/12/03 12:01 PM (17 years, 22 days ago)

Good one. :rolleyes:


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: shakta]
    #1909101 - 09/12/03 12:03 PM (17 years, 22 days ago)

How does this prove he knew ahead of time that it was going to happen?

I'm arguing that he is grossly incompetent and
failed miserably in a time of great crisis which
is exactly what the video, which you refuse to
watch or acknowledge, also asserts.

pay attention, this is conspiracy theory lite, with
75% less calories but all the taste of an obscene
failure of government.

again, this should be investigated.

How do you know that they were not taking the time to create a plan to move the President?

the country is knowingly being bombed from the sky
and your claim is that the secret service decided to
take 2 hours to create a plan on how to move the
president?

now who's wearing a tinfoil hat?

What would you have had him do?

he knew before going to the speaking op, so it should
have been cancelled and he should have stayed on the
move and in contact with all pertinent agencies so that
he could make the tough decisions that were never made
that day: take down the planes.

Did you expect him to jump in the fighter jet parked outside and go stop the planes or what?

let's be reasonable here, please.

He new we were being attacked, and he addressed the nation from the school. Then they hauled ass to AF1. Their actions just don't seem unreasonable to me.

it doesn't seem unreasonable to you that he knew we were
being attacked and he sat on his laurels for an hour and
a half and did absolutely nothing to take command of the
situation....just as the COMMANDER IN CHIEF is supposed to?

if bush didn't know, he sure as hell came off looking like an
incompetent coward.



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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: DoctorJ]
    #1909106 - 09/12/03 12:04 PM (17 years, 22 days ago)

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DoctorJ said:
shakta probably tried to watch it, but couldnt read fast enough for the slides and got frustrated :wink: 





LOFL! :lol: 


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: afoaf]
    #1909115 - 09/12/03 12:06 PM (17 years, 22 days ago)

You are wasting you're time with these con nut jobs. :wink:


 


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: sirreal]
    #1909151 - 09/12/03 12:17 PM (17 years, 22 days ago)

ur prolly right.


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: afoaf]
    #1909329 - 09/12/03 01:31 PM (17 years, 22 days ago)

No I understand what you are saying completely. My arguments have been against the larger 'theaory'. I do have a question for you though. How do you shoot down a plain after it has crashed. The authority was given to shoot down the plains, but they git there to late.


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