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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: Autonomous]
    #1905646 - 09/11/03 03:33 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

Maybe Oliver Stone will do a film about this one too.


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: Rono]
    #1905650 - 09/11/03 03:34 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

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Here's a fact for you...Bush Knew. 



No he didn't, but Learyfan did.  :wink:


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1905685 - 09/11/03 03:39 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

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You guys are so blinded by hate (one only needs to look at Learyfan for an example) that you're looking past anything that could even be construde as circumstantial and try to present it as fact. It is apparant that many here don't know what "Evidence" is. You guys would be tore up in court if you were lawyers.



I am not blinded by hate, but I am disgusted by idiocy. The idiocy of our President and his half-assed response in a crisis situation. I am disgusted by the idiocy of those who give Bush a free pass, merely because he is not a 'liberal' or a Democrat. I don't care how bad the opposition is, this does still not make Bush fit for the job.

Of course we are looking at things circumstantially, but there are certain facts that come out of the circumstances. It is Bush's behavior and decision making processes under these circumstances that I call into question. I do not claim that 'Bush knew,' I do claim that he is incompetent, I would not want him to lead me into battle, I would not trust him to be a lifeguard on the local beach, he does not inspire confidence.


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: Rono]
    #1905686 - 09/11/03 03:39 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

how the fuck would you know what the american people think? Use your fucking head.


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1905748 - 09/11/03 03:48 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

ya know...we do have a little thing called "television" and "radio" and "Internet" in Canada...maybe you've heard of it?...You were saying?...


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: Autonomous]
    #1905753 - 09/11/03 03:49 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

LOL bush apologists are completly blind even to well laid out well documented FACTS.BTW has anyone noted that Cheney WAS whisked away!As should our alleged CIC.To say bush knew is to say he was coached as well as possible to act the fool he is,the puppet of much greater men,much more dangerous men(cheney ashcroft and walters and ultimatly bush sr.)I am no liberal,I am a quite conservative political citizen yet I realize that this country is being led down the path which destroys the constitution and personal and states rights.Not to mention destroying relationships which have stood between countries for decades.Bush knew, but only JUST what he needed to know to play a little part in a grade school drama,Pity other so called conservatives cannot accept the glaring descrepancies in the "official" truth.
Now instead of trying to brush this all aside let's here from some of you apologists a well laid out timeline which addresses each instance of failure by our CIC and explains how and why events unfolded as they did without rediculous assumptions about the altruistic nature of government.
WR: :rolleyes:


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: Rono]
    #1905797 - 09/11/03 03:58 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

I was saying use your fucking head, just because a majority of this country doesn't "feel" the same way aboot something that you do doesn't make them "fill in the blank". You as well as many others need to get off your high horse and look at your own house before labeling others. The self-righteousness in this forum is overwhelming.


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1905803 - 09/11/03 03:59 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

Did you even click the link?


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1905850 - 09/11/03 04:06 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

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You as well as many others need to get off your high horse and look at your own house before labeling others. The self-righteousness in this forum is overwhelming.




I agree...you mean like labelling anyone that dares to question the almighty Bush a "Libbie"?...or Denouncing anything a "Libbie" says simply because it doesn't fit with your beliefs?

I have no problem admitting that I am self-righteous..if that's how you percieve me...then that's what I am to you. Can you recognize the same quality in yourself?...We often hate a quality in someone because we see it in ourselves...


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: Rono]
    #1905876 - 09/11/03 04:11 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

Oh you mean like if you are always accusing others of being filled with hate you might be the one who is filled with hate?  :smirk:   


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: Rono]
    #1905882 - 09/11/03 04:12 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

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I agree...you mean like labelling anyone that dares to question the almighty Bush a "Libbie"?...




anyone that is a liberal is a libbie, use your head.

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or Denouncing anything a "Libbie" says simply because it doesn't fit with your beliefs?




that would be bad, thank God i don't hate anyone with different beliefs. I do however have the right to tell someone that i don't agree with their beliefs.

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I have no problem admitting that I am self-righteous..




you don't need to admit it, it's apparant.

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if that's how you percieve me...then that's what I am to you




you just said yourself that you are which makes my observation right on.

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Can you recognize the same quality in yourself?...




nope, give me an example

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We often hate a quality in someone because we see it in ourselves...




ha, sorry but you're wrong.


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1905975 - 09/11/03 04:28 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

OOPS! sorry didn't mean to ask for some factual rebuttal in the middle of a pissing contest.
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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: Rono]
    #1906044 - 09/11/03 04:40 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

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Rono said:
ya know...we do have a little thing called "television" and "radio" and "Internet" in Canada...maybe you've heard of it?...You were saying?...




Ah, so you believe what the TV tells you. You would make an excellent American.


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1906053 - 09/11/03 04:41 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

:lol:


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: whiterasta]
    #1906101 - 09/11/03 04:50 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

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... I realize that this country is being led down the path which destroys the constitution and personal and states rights.Not to mention destroying relationships which have stood between countries for decades...



Unfortunately your realization is not shared by enough people. Ignorance is bliss...


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1906137 - 09/11/03 04:56 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

that was pretty good... :lol:


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: Autonomous]
    #1906353 - 09/11/03 05:50 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

One awake! I guess that's about average now days.5stars to you!
WR :wink:


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: whiterasta]
    #1906368 - 09/11/03 05:54 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

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Now instead of trying to brush this all aside let's here from some of you apologists a well laid out timeline which addresses each instance of failure by our CIC and explains how and why events unfolded as they did without rediculous assumptions about the altruistic nature of government 




Bump? :smirk:
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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: whiterasta]
    #1906383 - 09/11/03 05:57 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

You first. The 'timeline' presented by the convict that came up with this whole thing is full of gross assumptions, and utter bullshit.


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: shakta]
    #1906664 - 09/11/03 07:23 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

35 USAF Airbases within range on 911 - 7 Air Stations on full alert covering the Continental United States and 28 more Air Stations within range of the 4 airliners on 911.

The 7 Air Stations that were armed and on full alert to protect the continental United States on Tuesday September 11, 2001

The Air National Guard exclusively performs the air sovereignty mission in the continental United States, and those units fall under the control of the 1st Air Force based at Tyndall Air Force Base (AFB) in Panama City, Florida. The Air National Guard maintains seven alert sites with 14 fully armed fighters and pilots on call around the clock. Besides Tyndall AFB, alert birds also sit armed and ready at; Homestead Air Reserve Base (ARB), Homestead, Florida; Langley AFB, Hampton, Virginia; Otis Air National Guard (ANG), Falmouth, Massachusetts; Oregon ANG, Portland, Oregon; March ARB, Riverside, California; and Ellington ANG, Houston, Texas.

28 other Air Stations within range of the 4 hijacked airlines

Andrews AFB 11 miles SE of Washington D.C.
Bolling AFB 3 miles south of US Capitol
Dover AFB Dover, DE
Hanscom AFB 17 miles northwest of Boston, MA
McGuire AFB 18 miles southeast of Trenton, NJ
Wright-Patterson AFB Dayton, OH
Cape Cod, MA AFS
New Boston, NH AFS
Air National Guard and Air Force Reserve Bases
Atlantic City Airport, NJ 10 miles west of Atlantic City
Barnes Municipal Airport, MA 3 miles northwest of Westfield
Bradley International Airport, CN Windsor Locks
Byrd Field, VA 4 miles southeast of Richmond
Eastern West Virginia Regional Airport 4 miles south of Martinsburg
Frances S. Gabreski Airport, NY Westhampton Beach
Greater Pittsburgh International Airport, PA 15 miles nw of Pittsburgh
Harrisburg International Airport, PA 10 miles east of Harrisburg
Martin State Airport, MD 8 miles east of Baltimore
New Castle County Airport, DE 5 miles south of Wilmington
Pease ANGS, NH Portsmouth
Quonset State Airport, RI Providence
Rickenbacker ANGB, OH Columbus, Oh
Stewart International Airport, NY Newburgh, NY
oledo Express Airport, Swanton, Ohio
Westover ARB, MA 5 miles northeast of Chicopee
Willow Grove Naval Air Station, PA 14 miles north of Philadelphia
Yeager Airport, WVA 4 miles northeast of Charleston
Youngstown-Warren Regional Airport ARS, OH 16 miles north of Youngstown

Source: http://www.af.mil/sites/alphabetical.shtml

Here is a link that shows exactly how prepared the Air National Guard is on a daily basis.

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Day or night, 24-7, a pair of pilots and two crew chiefs stand alert in a secure compound on Homestead, the base Hurricane Andrew nearly razed in August 1992. Within minutes, the crew chiefs can launch the pilots and send them on their way to intercept ?unknown riders,? whether they?re Cuban MiGs, drug traffickers, smugglers, hijackers, novice pilots who?ve filed faulty flight plans or crippled aircraft limping in on a wing and a prayer.

?If needed, we could be killing things in five minutes or less,? said Capt. Tom ?Pickle? Herring, a full-time alert pilot.






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