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Why can't I like Phish?
    #19029004 - 10/24/13 11:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I love The Grateful Dead, love Furthur (saw them four times this summer), love String Cheese Incident (2x this summer, NYE tix in hand), love Galactic (once), love Railroad Earth... Why can't I love Phish?

I'm super bummed that Furthur is taking time off next year and just read a Phil Lesh interview where he said he basically wanted to stop touring altogether - i.e. a 2015 Furthur comeback was not likely.  I'd really like a new band to be able to fill the void and it seems Phish is the only real candidate, but... I can't do it.  I just don't like it. I've tried on and off for 15 years to get into their music, and it just doesn't resonate with me.  What am I doing wrong.

No, I haven't seen them live, and will do so the next chance I get to give it a fair shot, but...


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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: spiny]
    #19029010 - 10/24/13 11:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I was never big into em... Until going to a show.
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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #19029031 - 10/24/13 11:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

because Phish is a performance, and you're supposed to see it first hand, not listening to an album as your introduction. i'm sure it'd be more interesting to hear after you've seem them live, since they are a jam band, right?


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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #19029034 - 10/24/13 11:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

moe.

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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #19029043 - 10/24/13 11:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

whats with this love/hate thing about phish, personally ive only heard one song from them and i love it, the rift.


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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: buest]
    #19029052 - 10/24/13 11:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Just get into Umphrey's Mcgee, you'll thank me later.


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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #19029059 - 10/25/13 12:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe that's just it - gotta see 'em live.  But I've seen moe. live, for instance, and they're okay, but nothing like Furthur or SCI, my faves.  Galactic would be up there if they had more of a psychedelic scene, but its definitely a hard-drinking 30-something's New Orleans thing, which I don't really connect with (not the age part, though, sadly).  Umphs and Lotus are good suggestions, probably need to see them live, too (I've seen Umphs live, but it was years ago when I was in college, they were basically a bar-band in Chicago at the time).

I've actually been listening to some STS9, and I remember seeing them in college, too.  Been kinda enjoying it, too, but I hear the scene has kind of gone little-girls and MDMA, which is a little awkward.  I have to admit it - I love seeing the old wooks and heads get down at the Furthur and, to a lesser degree, SCI shows.  Feels like family.


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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #19029271 - 10/25/13 01:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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moe.

Umph.

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Saw Moe, Phish, Lotus, Furthur & Dark Star Orchestra over the last 4 months :psychsplit:


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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: spiny]
    #19030385 - 10/25/13 10:27 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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love Galactic (once)



oh fuck yeah you do galactic is the shit, i've only seen them once too but they made me cry :awepreciation:


I get to see Phish live for the fist time 7 hours from now i'm ultra excited :awesomenod:


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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: Sheekle]
    #19030464 - 10/25/13 10:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

As others have said.. have you been to a show?? Soooooo much energy. I love my dead, but phish is a whole new monster. completely different. Trey's style is just so fucking good. I promise you would love the live show...My first ever jam show was phish new years miami maybe 03? It changed my life. My mom toured with them for a min lol.

Sheekle, I'm jealous. You are going to have a blast!


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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: spiny]
    #19030491 - 10/25/13 11:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You can't just focus on the songs.

Sit back and listen to an entire set.  If you have a video of a performance, even better.

You gotta consider the entire performance as one entity.

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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #19031173 - 10/25/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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moe.

Umph.

Lotus



Saw Moe, Phish, Lotus, Furthur & Dark Star Orchestra over the last 4 months :psychsplit:



Can't wait till darkstar comes around here, def one of my favorite bands!
moe. just played 2 nights here, I made it to the second due to money.
Seen lotus twice this year/ the peach fest set which is on archive is fire!
caught furthur once this year in canandaigua (cut the show early due to storm).
Friend forgot to pick me up for phish the other night so I didn't make it to the roch.
Saw n met The Werks for the first time the other night. Def good show/
Umphreys plays here tomorrow super excited can't wait they ip it! :banana:

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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #19031206 - 10/25/13 01:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You guys are lucky as shit.  I live in Texas and its hard to find a decent fest round here.  Anyway good vibes! :wizard:


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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19031243 - 10/25/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Some people just don't like Phish you know. :shrug: I've seen them live several times 90s and 2000s - they're alright but I prefer the other acts more.


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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #19031249 - 10/25/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I was never big into em... Until going to a show.
:mindblown:





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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19031255 - 10/25/13 01:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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You guys are lucky as shit.  I live in Texas and its hard to find a decent fest round here.  Anyway good vibes! :wizard:



Aside from having two of the best music festivals in the country you mean.


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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: Sheekle]
    #19031264 - 10/25/13 01:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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love Galactic (once)



oh fuck yeah you do galactic is the shit, i've only seen them once too but they made me cry :awepreciation:


I get to see Phish live for the fist time 7 hours from now i'm ultra excited :awesomenod:




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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: Demonic_Chronic]
    #19031271 - 10/25/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

One thing, I do not like Moe whatsoever but I love phish, further, cheese etc..
Cant stand MOE...Idk why, even seen em live twice.
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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: Sheekle]
    #19031477 - 10/25/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Like I said, no, I haven't been to see Phish in person, but will do so at the next opportunity just to make sure I give them a fair shake.  I kind of have to agree with the above poster.  Just seeing moe. didn't make me love them, so I'm not sure it's a guarantee. 

Speaking of crappy locations for seeing music, Los Angeles is a really crappy location for jam-type music.  We were lucky to get three nights of Furthur this fall, but SCI basically doesn't come here, nor does RRE, Galactic shows up once in a while, Phish will play maybe one night if they come. Shit, I saw Galactic is playing Victor, ID and not even making a stop in LA.  Wtf.  And Coachella?  Please.  First of all, not exactly in LA, and second, not exactly into top-40.

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oh fuck yeah you do galactic is the shit, i've only seen them once too but they made me cry :awepreciation:
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(Once) was just this summer... Been seeing those guys for years.


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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: spiny] * 2
    #19031533 - 10/25/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Because they're bad?


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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: robbyberto]
    #19031572 - 10/25/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Because they're bad?




THIS!
i like all kinds of music.
and love some jam bands.
others are just annoying, musical masturbators, like Phish.

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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: broken]
    #19031783 - 10/25/13 03:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Because phish shows are used by cops to bust people using undercover scumbags I mean cops


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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: villui]
    #19032205 - 10/25/13 05:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

eat some shrooms, and throw on "story of the ghost" once it kicks in and listen to it from beggining to end and then get back to me.  :wink:


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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19032207 - 10/25/13 05:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

especially outside this time of the year.


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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19032435 - 10/25/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

A lot of fans would probably disagree with me, but I actually like how SCI has gotten more electronic in the later years.  Maybe I should check out Disco Biscuits and STS9?


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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: broken]
    #19034005 - 10/26/13 02:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Because they're bad?




THIS!
i like all kinds of music.
and love some jam bands.
others are just annoying, musical masturbators, like Phish.




Have either of you ever actually been a part of a Phish show before?

Sometimes hype is made over a whole lot of nothing, other times hype is made over a whole lot of something

Phish has a whole lot of something, whether you're willing to accept that or not


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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: Sheekle]
    #19034023 - 10/26/13 02:26 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

jam bands are mostly all about musical masturbation... so is some of the greatest works of Jazz and Classical music.

:shrug: musical masturbation is pretty common in most music.


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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19034027 - 10/26/13 02:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

They're calling Phish bad and "annoying" musical masturbation

I don't think I'd associate the terms bad or annoying with "greatest"


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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: Sheekle]
    #19034040 - 10/26/13 02:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

well, i wouldn't either. which is why i used Jazz and Classical as an example.

some strange beings on this planet, don't LIKE Jazz and Classical, which is weird but... i kinda understand... it's because those styles of music are literally all about musical masturbation. so is Jam bands. i'm just sayin' (lol damn you Hakim) the greatest kinds of music are about... just how masturbatory and yet... good it is; and somehow you can help but look away.  :wellthatsweird:

not BECAUSE it's masturbatory, or anything... but because that kind of expression, with which you can use the word "masturbatory" for BECAUSE it's so outwardly ... achm... sensual...

is... grandiose and pushes musicality to new heights. new heights of all sorts of different kinds of music, which include Jam Rock.


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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: Sheekle]
    #19038720 - 10/26/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Phish has a whole lot of something, whether you're willing to accept that or not





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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: broken]
    #19038726 - 10/26/13 11:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i don't care for Widespread Panic or moe. at all either. :shrug:


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Re: Why can't I like Phish? [Re: spiny]
    #19038906 - 10/27/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Go see phish and do some acid or some ketamine or mxe, maybe you'll find them ultra cool live and like then from then on.

I had a couple k hole experiences where I just put on their album and laid on my bed, it was awesome but I was already way into them at that point.

You just got get over the semi goofy white guy voice, it WILL grow on you, also phish has lots of pretty girls at there shows and a great lot scene and the music is really upbeat and fun and their music is very enjoyable to other musicians, great guitar and piano work!!!

Check out gamehenge , the first work trey put out there, it's a concept album telling a story


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