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Re: Russel Brand [Re: B_BOY]
#19069411 - 11/01/13 11:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i don't care who is speaking if they have a logical valid point then its a logical valid point. If the only people taken seriously were this with preexisting credibility then we would have missed out on all sorts of advancements in every field imaginable. So attack the point not the speaker.
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Logical valid point to who? Is that your decision also?
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Re: Russel Brand [Re: B_BOY]
#19069523 - 11/01/13 11:50 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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yes it is my decision to make for how i react to something. Just like its your decision to choose to base your opinions based on public image or logical conclusions. No one is forcing you to do anything or follow one certain train of though.
The funny thing is that i don't even agree with him, if he was a political science major i still wouldn't have agreed with him. And no i am not a liberal.
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Re: Russel Brand [Re: B_BOY]
#19069553 - 11/01/13 11:55 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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B_BOY said: Logical valid point to who? Is that your decision also?
Logic is not subjective. Someone may convince themselves of something and think they are being logical, but true logic plays by certain rules. 1+1=2, do you really want to argue with that?
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What sounds Logical to you might not sound Logical to me, wanna argue with that really?
Wait are you the all mighty Logic maker?
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B_BOY said: Logical valid point to who? Is that your decision also?
Logic is not subjective. Someone may convince themselves of something and think they are being logical, but true logic plays by certain rules. 1+1=2, do you really want to argue with that?
logic is subjective in some situations. for instance mathematics is not. However politics are subjective, what is l logical to some is not logical to all
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That's because some things can't be reached by logic. For instance, bare logic doesn't tell us what the healthiest political system would be, but it can help us make our way through the maze of ideas and arguments to figure out what might work well.
Politics is subjective, logic is not. Two people can both use valid logic to form their arguments and still disagree. However, someone who is illogical can not be said to be using logic just because they believe something hard enough.
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Re: Russel Brand [Re: B_BOY]
#19069638 - 11/01/13 12:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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That might be the logical response to this conversation.
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So I am right? just smoked some bud so i am sleepy
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Re: Russel Brand [Re: B_BOY]
#19069658 - 11/01/13 12:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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we seem to be arguing two different things. When i said logic is subjective i meant the conclusions can be subjective. Similar to how the scientific method is not subjective yet you can still come to different conclusions.
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Yeah, I agree with that.
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yay for civil debate and reasonable agreements 
you might even say we reached a..... logical conclusion
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It speaks to his credibility, since he's not good at acting, jokes or Katy Perry he should rethink political discourse.
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