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Re: Could i.. fake a opiate addiction [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #19030898 - 10/25/13 12:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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^ Both Suboxone doctors I've been to have been nothing like that.  I only had to go once a month from the very beginning. They've never watched me take my doses. I was prescribed Subutex right from the start, never had to take Suboxone. I also never had to see a therapist. And have never had a blood test.

Your Sub clinic sounds like total shit.






Right, doctor.  Re-read my post and note how I distinguished private doctors from clinics. Private doctors can only take on so many sub patients, each, and can therefore be limited in some areas. Private doctors are usually easier to deal with, from my understanding, if I didn't make that clear enough in my post.


However, if OP's area is anything like mine, it's far easier to get an appointment at a shitty chain / franchise clinic like I attend, than a private doctor.



And if you've never had a blood test, that makes your doctor an idiot, not awesome. (Although a lenient idiot, which I guess is also nice, in its own way.)  They test the blood to check liver levels, which subuxone can effect. If you've been on it a while, perhaps you should speak to the doc about this.





Every doctor is limited to 100 patients. Which like you said makes it difficult to find one. I probably called around 50 of them before I found my first one and probably 50 more before I found my second (which is actually a Psychiatrist.) But nobody I know has ever had their blood checked while on subs, and I know a lot of people on them. I don't really take mine that often anymore though, so I don't think I have much to worry about.


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Re: Could i.. fake a opiate addiction [Re: LoveYourLife]
    #19030907 - 10/25/13 12:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

the last 2 times I went to rehab I told them I was using between half a gram to a gram of heroin a day just so they will give me 8mg of subs for the first 3 days I was there. It was complete BS. I was super high for those first 3 days of rehab. no wonder I am still not sober eh.


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Re: Could i.. fake a opiate addiction [Re: VivaLaMushie]
    #19030928 - 10/25/13 12:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I knew an old lady who went to the clinic every two weeks and they'd give her 12-15 bottles w her doses to take home. She had been going to them for years, tho and she was addicted to heroin years ago and now shes addicted to the 'done.








Yeah, if i wasn't readily apparent from my first post, I was on methadone long ago, before being on suboxone. I did have "take home bottles" at the end of my way-too-long stay there. You do have to be on the program for a long time, and in good standing to get "take home" bottles. At my clinic they did it such that after x months with the program (which I think was somewhere between 6 and 12.... this was a long time ago, and that part's a bit fuzzy) they would give you one more take home dose for every additional month you gave them a clean drug test.


So after the first month, you only have to go every other day. Second month every third day, etc.



And you have to bring a locked box to take it home in.


Once I had a few take homes under my belt, the 'done clinic seemed like a bit less of a pain in the ass. But it seemed like it took forever to get there. And before you get to that point, missing a dose was not pleasant, and sometimes the clinic hours sucked.



That being said, IMO methadone is perhaps superior as a recreational drug (compared to bupe.) For maintenance, I prefer bupe for the long half life. It "holds" you longer.  But coming off seems harder. I detoxed myself from methadone, strangely enough, using morphine (much shorter half life). And I was clean for a good long while. Last year I tried to taper off subs. Even after tapering my dose super low, then transitioning to low dose codeine for a few days, then to kratom for a couple weeks, I was still having a hellish time.


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Re: Could i.. fake a opiate addiction [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #19032339 - 10/25/13 06:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Getting subs and getting methadone are easy as shit to get prescribed whether or not you are an opiate addict.  They will script you methadone for being addicted to codeine if you piss dirty and are on a high enough dose, same with subs.  You need to know what to say/do though, still is probably the stupidest idea to make money right next to killing a gas station worker to rob them.  That's shit people in the ghetto usually won't even do to make money.


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Re: Could i.. fake a opiate addiction [Re: fapjack]
    #19032491 - 10/25/13 06:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Getting subs and getting methadone are easy as shit to get prescribed whether or not you are an opiate addict.  They will script you methadone for being addicted to codeine if you piss dirty and are on a high enough dose, same with subs.  You need to know what to say/do though, still is probably the stupidest idea to make money right next to killing a gas station worker to rob them.  That's shit people in the ghetto usually won't even do to make money.




I've never even been tested prior to getting Subs. They only tested me a week later to make sure I was actually clean. And then after that I was put on a monthly schedule with a 90 Subutex a month script (24mg a day) which I later got upped to 4 Subutex a day. I guess it's just easier to get them where I live. I've never had to deal with half the hassle I hear other people talking about.


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Re: Could i.. fake a opiate addiction [Re: fapjack]
    #19032504 - 10/25/13 06:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

This is so damn stupid. Why play around with opiate addiction just to get a shitty drug to do every once in a while? I've been struggling with opiate addiction for a couple years now..I'm FINALLY doing better and not doing them as often..

It's not worth it. Get a job and just buy the drugs you want..I've done methadone a couple of times and it wasn't worth shit to me. Not enjoyable. Not to mention, mixing it with other drugs can kill you. I've had 5 friends die from doing xanax or coke with it.

And it's not free..The methadone clinic charges you, I think 7$ per day..unless you're a lazy fuck playing the system and somehow on medicaid, then I guess it's free..But still not worth it.

Summary: Get a fucking job and buy your own drugs. This is a stupid/bad idea.

I don't know you personally, so i'm sorry if I hurt your feelings or got something wrong..but opiates are not something to play with. They can fuck your life up so quick before you even realize it. People told me this shit and I didn't believe them. I've been trying to get off them for about 2 years and am just now finally ALMOST there.


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Re: Could i.. fake a opiate addiction [Re: PsilliCoder]
    #19032535 - 10/25/13 06:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Opiate addiction is definitely a bitch.  I still struggle with it everyday of my life. Methadone isn't fun by any means either, you're better off just doing Heroin. Better high and it's honestly less dangerous. And the withdrawal isn't as severe as Methadone.


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Re: Could i.. fake a opiate addiction [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #19032922 - 10/25/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Dude they don't just RX you Methadone. It's highly controlled. You have to go to a clinic DAILY before they will give you take home doses. It takes literally years to get a months worth of take home doses.

Now Suboxone/Subutex is a different story. That is very easy to fake and get a months worth of take homes.




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The federal regulation is that you must be in the program for 2 years and you can't fail any drug tests to get a 1 month script of take home Methadone.

So yeah, it would be more hassle than it's worth.




Ah those answers were what i was looking for, thanks
Time to research suboxone highs :grin:



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Re: Could i.. fake a opiate addiction [Re: King Klick]
    #19033214 - 10/25/13 09:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

methadone?? I don't see why anyone would want to try that... :facepalm: taking heroin makes more sense to me.
Anyways, From all the movies I've watched I think they do test you multiple times, good luck!


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Re: Could i.. fake a opiate addiction [Re: SkeletalSpore]
    #19033223 - 10/25/13 09:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I liked methadone with xanax as much as I liked heroin.


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Re: Could i.. fake a opiate addiction [Re: fapjack]
    #19033233 - 10/25/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I liked methadone with xanax as much as I liked heroin.




That's such an EXTREMELY dangerous combination.


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Re: Could i.. fake a opiate addiction [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #19033381 - 10/25/13 09:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

bloodwhip you're retarded


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Re: Could i.. fake a opiate addiction [Re: ButteredToast]
    #19033385 - 10/25/13 09:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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bloodwhip you're retarded



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Re: Could i.. fake a opiate addiction [Re: SkeletalSpore]
    #19033393 - 10/25/13 09:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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methadone?? I don't see why anyone would want to try that... :facepalm: taking heroin makes more sense to me.
Anyways, From all the movies I've watched I think they do test you multiple times, good luck!



What? Methadone is a opiate, opiates cause a high. methadone causes a very long high. Thats why someone would want to try methadone.

Ive basically decided not to do this anyway


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Re: Could i.. fake a opiate addiction [Re: LoveYourLife]
    #19033913 - 10/26/13 01:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I liked methadone with xanax as much as I liked heroin.




That's such an EXTREMELY dangerous combination.



Its not really that dangerous if you have a high tolerance to both drugs at the same time.  I lost a few friends to opiates and benzos, but none of them were doing anywhere near as much opioids as I was.  You see more people on methadone eating benzos IME than don't.  Methadone just ruins the whole opioid experience if you don't eat benzos, its really what gets you high.


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Re: Could i.. fake a opiate addiction [Re: fapjack]
    #19033927 - 10/26/13 01:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

yea a close friend of mine was a heroin addict because he got methadone tested by our asshole gov. and then fucked up his life but is one of the few to recover and live methadone will get u addicted to the same shit


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Re: Could i.. fake a opiate addiction [Re: lighthouse09]
    #19033996 - 10/26/13 02:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

When I went to new york I faked being strung out to get into the beth israel clinic. I drank hella poppy seed tea from some indian jip joints and told them I was gonna whore myself out to get it. I was on methadone the next day 50mg.


It helped that I had past opiate issues but it still was hellishly easy.


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Re: Could i.. fake a opiate addiction [Re: Hakim0777]
    #19033999 - 10/26/13 02:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

BUT. its not worth fucking with. methadone sickness lasts for a fucking month dude. it makes no sense to switch to methadone just cause you wanna stay well. people do it tho.


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