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How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens)
    #19025495 - 10/24/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



Sup shrooms

Heres the sexy cyans I picked here on Vancouver Island BC, Canada. There fresh and there very blue.

I just wanted to get an eyeball estimate in dry grams. I would like to have a 6 gram trip do I have enough


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: kylethesk8er123]
    #19025506 - 10/24/13 12:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i'd say maybe 5 g's dry. maybe lil less


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: B_BOY]
    #19025520 - 10/24/13 12:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Absolutely impossible to eyeball weight. Buy a $10 scale. Worth every small penny.


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: ZippyHippyinWA]
    #19025527 - 10/24/13 12:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Absolutely impossible to eyeball weight. Buy a $10 scale. Worth every small penny.





I just wanted an estimate ill be taking them all and wanted to know what kind of dose in dry grams ill be getting...

so it only looks like 5 dry grams?


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: kylethesk8er123]
    #19025531 - 10/24/13 12:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

IMO it looks like about 5 dry g's


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: B_BOY]
    #19025572 - 10/24/13 01:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

do you think eating the 5 grams in there wet state will be a good trip? like ego death ahaha


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: kylethesk8er123]
    #19025578 - 10/24/13 01:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

no clue , never had them before


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: B_BOY]
    #19025741 - 10/24/13 01:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Have you ever eaten Cyans before? They're VERY strong. it is said that a "Heroic" level 5 dose on Cubes is around 5 dried grams. Cyans take a little over half that amount. IMO 6 dried grams is overkill. Since you're seemingly unfamiliar with the species, (or possibly mushrooms in general,) I'd start with at most a third of your haul but probably more like 1/4. These aren't the shrooms most people buy (cubensis) - they're a different animal.


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: happyfunguy]
    #19025746 - 10/24/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

2.3gs dried.


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: Ganzig]
    #19025832 - 10/24/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I took 5g dry of cyanescens my first time and it was pretty amazing.  I took 7.5 once and it was a nightmare.  3.5g is my ideal dose of cyanescens.  I'm 5',11'', 190 lbs so factor that in.

I'd guess that was about 4 dry grams but hard to tell.


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: FoxDie] * 1
    #19026184 - 10/24/13 02:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I think more like 7-9g dry. Thats just my opinion. OP should get a scale and we should place a contest.


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: OregonMushys]
    #19026264 - 10/24/13 03:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

4.6 grams is my guess!


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: OregonMushys] * 1
    #19026275 - 10/24/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I think more like 7-9g dry. Thats just my opinion. OP should get a scale and we should place a contest.




Totally.

I say no more than 3g


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: rev0kadavur]
    #19026278 - 10/24/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I have found cyans that are so strong that half a gram is plenty!


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: rev0kadavur]
    #19026285 - 10/24/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I have found cyans that are so strong that half a gram is plenty!




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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: Ganzig]
    #19026374 - 10/24/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If youre interested in taking mind altering substances, you NEED TO BUY SCALES. Honesty, why risk over (or under) dosing for the sake of $20 or less in a device that should last you forever.


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: barong]
    #19026408 - 10/24/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

My opinion 3 gm dried there
But yes... If you plan on doing mushrooms, buy a scale

Good dose but would go less unless you are experience

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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: HarryL] * 1
    #19026473 - 10/24/13 03:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

those weigh 6.8429 grams.


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: hgmstl] * 1
    #19026485 - 10/24/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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those weigh 6.8429 grams.



give or take 17 micrograms


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: barong]
    #19026498 - 10/24/13 03:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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those weigh 6.8429 grams.



give or take 17 micrograms



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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: hgmstl]
    #19026733 - 10/24/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

hahaha ill take em all and let you guys know how it went tomorrow morning.

last time i took 4 grams i was perfectly fine


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: hgmstl]
    #19026750 - 10/24/13 04:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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those weigh 6.8429 grams.




theyre wet man i think they weigh more than that


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: barong]
    #19026773 - 10/24/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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If youre interested in taking mind altering substances, you NEED TO BUY SCALES. Honesty, why risk over (or under) dosing for the sake of $20 or less in a device that should last you forever.




:nodofunderstanding:

Yeah, really.  You should accurately weigh every dose, otherwise you are bound to constantly overshoot and undershoot your mark and consistently be disappointed in the results.  My guess is around 3-3.5 g dry, which is more than enough to give you anywhere from a solid trip to full ego loss, depending on your weight and constitution.

Also, if you're going to trip soon, just keep them in a fridge in a tupperware container with the lid cracked open so they don't turn to slime.  Fresh mushrooms offer the best trip IMO.


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: kylethesk8er123]
    #19026823 - 10/24/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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those weigh 6.8429 grams.




theyre wet man i think they weigh more than that



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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: hgmstl] * 1
    #19028327 - 10/24/13 09:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I have to say, dosing out cyans is slightly unreliable..
there is a variance from patch to patch in regards to potency.. at least thats my experience.
Some that I have picked have been weak, took 3 grams to get a decent trip.
But them some I have found have been crazy strong... half a gram is plenty!

What I would do is forget the scales... set aside a day... eat a couple mushrooms..... wait an hour... if its not strong enough, take a couple more... when another hour passes, if you still aren't tripping balls and you want to be blasted, then eat several more... maybe do 2-4 mushrooms at a time.. that is the best way to judge how strong your mushrooms are without getting all labby-tekky.


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: rev0kadavur]
    #19028655 - 10/24/13 10:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I have to say, dosing out cyans is slightly unreliable..
there is a variance from patch to patch in regards to potency.. at least thats my experience.
Some that I have picked have been weak, took 3 grams to get a decent trip.
But them some I have found have been crazy strong... half a gram is plenty!

What I would do is forget the scales... set aside a day... eat a couple mushrooms..... wait an hour... if its not strong enough, take a couple more... when another hour passes, if you still aren't tripping balls and you want to be blasted, then eat several more... maybe do 2-4 mushrooms at a time.. that is the best way to judge how strong your mushrooms are without getting all labby-tekky.




I personally have terrible luck with dosing and then re-dosing, IME by the time you feel any effects it is too late to re-dose.  I can double my original dose and never get where I want to be once visuals have started. 

There is certainly variance in potency in any wild-harvested mushrooms, but the best plan, IMO, if you have quantity from the same patch is to dose out what should, based on average potency, be the trip you want, comprised of mushrooms of varying sizes and ages.  A lot of the perceived variance in potency has to do (IME) with the size and age of the mushrooms in question, as taking all big mature specimens or all small, immature specimens will account for as much variance within the same patch as between patches.  It's easy enough to take a test trip with a small dose if you have quantity from one patch, which isn't generally hard to find with woodlovers.  :shrug:


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: RiparianZoneJunky]
    #19028803 - 10/24/13 10:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not sure what it is about woodies (or if its even all about them,) but back when I lived in FL, I could eat as many fresh cubes as I could find on a given morning (dozens of ounces at a time,) and experience nothing but bliss (as long as I hadn't gotten a shotgun blast of rock-salt to the knee and shin.) Out here, over a decade later, even small doses are so much more intense in ways that can't be explained away by alkaloid content by weight. I'm convinced that there are cumulative effects, or maybe I've just taxed the various filtering mechanisms beyond their normal parameters. Same thing goes for all heavy psychs. It used to be that I could eat as much acid in one sitting, smoke as much DMT, even smoke an ounce + of dank between myself and two other people in a day as often as I wanted to when I was in my mid teens - early 20's. I seemed to fly off some kind of tolerance cliff when I was around 25.

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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: happyfunguy] * 1
    #19028817 - 10/24/13 10:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: happyfunguy]
    #19028828 - 10/24/13 10:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Have you considerd wether some of it might be the cumulative weight of responsibility?


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: canid]
    #19028859 - 10/24/13 10:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Welcome to the ageing process brother




:lol: Yeah dude, things hit way harder in your 30s than your 20s, not looking forward to how they're going to hit in the golden years.  :oldman2:

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Have you considerd wether some of it might be the cumulative weight of responsibility?



I think that is a huge component as well, back in the day you could trip balls without a care in the world, now it's kids, money, relationships etc. there's more baggage to let go of and more potential for self doubt to come at you.  Although honestly, though I can take lower doses to get to the same level of trip as I did when I was younger, being happier and more content with life at this stage I have way fewer bad trips and in general have a much better time even at high doses.  It might also be the fact that in general, I find woodlovers have a much mellower, balanced but more intensely hallucinatory trip whereas cultivated cubes have a lot of speediness, bad juju and mindfuck.  Every once in a while I'll take cubes again and remember, shit yeah these things are tricksy little bastards... :shrug:


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: happyfunguy]
    #19028883 - 10/24/13 11:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm not sure what it is about woodies (or if its even all about them,) but back when I lived in FL, I could eat as many fresh cubes as I could find on a given morning (dozens of ounces at a time,) and experience nothing but bliss (as long as I hadn't gotten a shotgun blast of rock-salt to the knee and shin.) Out here, over a decade later, even small doses are so much more intense in ways that can't be explained away by alkaloid content by weight. I'm convinced that there are cumulative effects, or maybe I've just taxed the various filtering mechanisms beyond their normal parameters. Same thing goes for all heavy psychs. It used to be that I could eat as much acid in one sitting, smoke as much DMT, even smoke an ounce + of dank between myself and two other people in a day as often as I wanted to when I was in my mid teens - early 20's. I seemed to fly off some kind of tolerance cliff when I was around 25.

just adding my 47 cents.




I agree... there is a big difference. . . Its not an age thing.
My experience has been that cubes are the most pleasant. . . Blissful indeed.
Cyans and the such have this rush with the onset.. then kina edgey and highly sensitive state most of the duration... but if everything goes well the come down is very calming..
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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: RiparianZoneJunky]
    #19028900 - 10/24/13 11:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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It might also be the fact that in general, I find woodlovers have a much mellower, balanced but more intensely hallucinatory trip whereas cultivated cubes have a lot of speediness, bad juju and mindfuck.  Every once in a while I'll take cubes again and remember, shit yeah these things are tricksy little bastards... :shrug:





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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: rev0kadavur]
    #19028905 - 10/24/13 11:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

However, visuals though different from cubes are intense with cyans for me.
But cyans are speedy for me where's as I feel cubes are more mellow.


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: rev0kadavur]
    #19028923 - 10/24/13 11:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I agree... there is a big difference. . . Its not an age thing.
My experience has been that cubes are the most pleasant. . . Blissful indeed.
Cyans and the such have this rush with the onset.. then kina edgey and highly sensitive state most of the duration... but if everything goes well the come down is very calming..
Cubes for laughs.
Cyans for enlightenment.




So funny how everybody has different experiences with different mushrooms.  I get a wierd "witchy" vibe from cubes, they get me on edge, play tricks and bring out the goblin parade and in general have a trickster mentality, whereas woodlovers (I mostly have experience with ovoids but cyans are very similar) just give me a smooth, euphoric and beautiful ride with a positive, protective, motherly spirit like being in the womb of the universe.  Everybody metabolizes them differently I guess.

Although, I always do tea, so I'm not digesting the mushrooms, so perhaps the meatiness of the cubes makes the come up a lot slower for those eating them, whereas the nearly insubstantial material of the cyans and their greater potency by weight makes them come up a lot faster.  With tea, both species come up the same speed and the only difference is the varying levels of different alkaloids. 
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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: ZippyHippyinWA]
    #19028924 - 10/24/13 11:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

To me, fresh, natural cubes are the big difference... I would shape shift into an octopus, explore fractal realms devoid of a personal differentiation from my surroundings, swim in music, etc... fresh woodies or cultivated cubes don't do the same thing... anyone eaten both fresh woodies and fresh, naturally occurring cubes and had the same experience? Or is it just an age or weight of responsibility thing (which I've totally contemplated, but I try to avoid it in general when discussing psychedelics - I don't want the sober thought-bookmarks when I'm contemplating existence alone in the woods.)


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: happyfunguy]
    #19028942 - 10/24/13 11:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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To me, fresh, natural cubes are the big difference... I would shape shift into an octopus, explore fractal realms devoid of a personal differentiation from my surroundings, swim in music, etc... fresh woodies or cultivated cubes don't do the same thing... anyone eaten both fresh woodies and fresh, naturally occurring cubes and had the same experience? Or is it just an age or weight of responsibility thing (which I've totally contemplated, but I try to avoid it in general when discussing psychedelics - I don't want the sober thought-bookmarks when I'm contemplating existence alone in the woods.)




I've eaten fresh cultivated cubes and fresh wild and dried wild woodlovers (cyans and ovoids), I've also tried fresh and dried cultivated truffles (galindoi), fresh and dried cultivated pseudoaztecorum.  Every species IMO, has a slightly different personality, some more similar to others.  I found pseudoaztecorum to be very similar to cubensis, truffles were their own thing, and the woodlovers were more similar to each other but also a bit different.  Experimenting and finding the right species and dosage level to fit your personality is a fun thing.  :grin:

Again, it bears saying that I always prepare every species with a lemon-tea extraction and don't eat any of the mushroom material, so the active ingredients hit all at once and there is no delay.  Eating them is going to make a profound effect on the trip in terms of how much you've fasted, how dense the shrooms are etc. I think the biological component is often the most unpredictable factor.  When you do tea/lemon tek the quick come up that you get from the stronger, less meaty species is the same regardless of the species because you get the full dose delivered at once, the differences come more from the potency variance and presence of the different compounds like baecystin/norbaeocystin etc. 


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: RiparianZoneJunky]
    #19029020 - 10/24/13 11:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I've been playing with the idea that the more acclimated the person is to the area that spawned the mushrooms, the more strongly they effect you locally. the same seems to be true vice versa. think on that for an hour or two.


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: happyfunguy]
    #19029108 - 10/25/13 12:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That would explain why I tripped ballz harder when I was crashing in my buddies closet.


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: kylethesk8er123]
    #19029315 - 10/25/13 01:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

that is no more than 2.5 dry grams... TRUST ME ive been finding shitloads of cyans this year and drying them everyday. I have a pretty good idea of how much that is. I ate half that today and it was like being super stoned. I think eating all those would be a level 2 trip. I don't think you want to do 6 grams of dry cyans bro that's a lot. all that said the active chemicals in psilocybes can vary 10x from mushroom to mushroom. id say eat em all and then find more and you'll be able to judge for yourself how much you want to trip. there is no way that's 5 grams


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Re: How many dry grams ROUGHLY do you think this would be? (Cyanescens) [Re: rev0kadavur]
    #19030677 - 10/25/13 11:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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It might also be the fact that in general, I find woodlovers have a much mellower, balanced but more intensely hallucinatory trip whereas cultivated cubes have a lot of speediness, bad juju and mindfuck.  Every once in a while I'll take cubes again and remember, shit yeah these things are tricksy little bastards... :shrug:





I feel like its the opposite for me.



Only going by the Eastern wood lovers (ovoids)...I feel  a lot less mind fuck with them than cubes.....cubes feel kinda dirty to me.:shrug: Oh, by the way, I'm in my 50's and they still affect me pretty much the same as they did when I was 18....just giggled a lot more then.:grin:


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