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OregonBlueShroom


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Galerina, cyanescens, or allenii?
#19025387 - 10/24/13 12:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I cant take a spore print yet but i find these interesting so would like to hear some guesses. I picked one immature mushroom the slugs munched from the patch so i could get a look at the stem/ gills. Im betting Galerina so far until I see some real bluing or a spore print.
Habitat: in the picture it looks like they are growing from grass, but its rotten plywood sheets about 2 years old. Theres also a ton of pholiota growing off of them. It does not seem like typical cyan/allenii habitat.

Stem: the stem stands out as strange to me. It was very hollow like a straw and did not seem like normal cyanescens im used to. When i split it it did not have the normal inside texture of a cyan as seen in this picture.


Cap:about 80% of the caps in the patch are perfectly circular which stood out as unusual for cyanescens but might be normal for allenii. Hygrophanous, Dark along cap edge (resembles a dark blue like in cyanescens cap edge but its too thin for me to be convinced and may be black)
Bruising: Have not seen any that im convinced is blue yet. Only handled one small mushroom so far.
Smell: Smells delicious exactly like the smell of cyanescens. I love this smell so much 
Heres the rest of the pics


Anybody want to guess? Ill update in a few days when they grow up or when i see bruising/ spore color.
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Ganzig
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I guess allenii
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egodeathflux
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I don't think they are Cyans... not certain what the others look like as I have never found them. They are beautiful though, nice find regardless of what they are.
Wait for a TI to chime in, fairly sure they are active but please don't quote me on that.
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OregonBlueShroom


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Re: Galerina, cyanescens, or allenii? [Re: Ganzig]
#19025410 - 10/24/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have found alenii about a quarter mile down the street from this spot last year, here is the pics 

-------------------- Favorite quote: I want to know if they are active and magic or not. And if they are not active, can i pick them before they are active and then they will become active or do they have to grow till they activate?
    
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egodeathflux
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Can I assume you are in Oregon?? You guys are so lucky living up there...
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OregonBlueShroom


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Re: Galerina, cyanescens, or allenii? [Re: egodeathflux]
#19025420 - 10/24/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yep im from Oregon and yea we are
-------------------- Favorite quote: I want to know if they are active and magic or not. And if they are not active, can i pick them before they are active and then they will become active or do they have to grow till they activate?
    
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Lhun
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They look like the young P. allenii I find around my area. 
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maynardjameskeenan
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Re: Galerina, cyanescens, or allenii? [Re: Lhun]
#19025988 - 10/24/13 02:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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They look like allenii to me. Cool find!
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Ganzig
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The nerds have spoken. It is P. allenii
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MacMerdin
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Are you positive on the Pholiata? I think I see a bit of green on a cap (upper left)?
Edited by MacMerdin (10/24/13 02:38 PM)
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Ganzig
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Re: Galerina, cyanescens, or allenii? [Re: MacMerdin]
#19026129 - 10/24/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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MacMerdin said: Are you positive on the Pholiata? I think I see a bit of green on a cap (upper left)?
Pholiota?
Oh and sorry OBS, I have no idea what the first two are.
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Re: Galerina, cyanescens, or allenii? [Re: Ganzig]
#19026190 - 10/24/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ganzig said:
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MacMerdin said: Are you positive on the Pholiata? I think I see a bit of green on a cap (upper left)?
Pholiota?
Oh and sorry OBS, I have no idea what the first two are.
Yes, Pholiota.
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OregonBlueShroom said: Theres also a ton of pholiota growing off of them. It does not seem like typical cyan/allenii habitat.
Edited by MacMerdin (10/24/13 03:05 PM)
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rev0kadavur
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Re: Galerina, cyanescens, or allenii? [Re: MacMerdin]
#19026245 - 10/24/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Likely allenii, they just have that look.
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Ganzig
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Re: Galerina, cyanescens, or allenii? [Re: MacMerdin]
#19026266 - 10/24/13 03:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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MacMerdin said:
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Ganzig said:
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MacMerdin said: Are you positive on the Pholiata? I think I see a bit of green on a cap (upper left)?
Pholiota?
Oh and sorry OBS, I have no idea what the first two are.
Yes, Pholiota.
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OregonBlueShroom said: Theres also a ton of pholiota growing off of them. It does not seem like typical cyan/allenii habitat.

Awww right right.
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OregonBlueShroom


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Re: Galerina, cyanescens, or allenii? [Re: Ganzig]
#19027769 - 10/24/13 07:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just thought Pholiota because viscid cap and yellowish gills, didnt bother to spore print them. I didnt notice any bruising in them either.
And it will be cool if they turn out to be allenii we will find out soon
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Re: Galerina, cyanescens, or allenii? [Re: Ganzig]
#19029033 - 10/24/13 11:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I would say the big ones look like Galerina marginata and the others are a way cool Psilocybe sp.
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Joust
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Quote:
OregonBlueShroom said:


Anybody want to guess? Ill update in a few days when they grow up or when i see bruising/ spore color.
These are Psilocybe allenii
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Joust
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Re: Galerina, cyanescens, or allenii? [Re: Joust]
#19029133 - 10/25/13 12:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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but no bluing?
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OregonBlueShroom


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Re: Galerina, cyanescens, or allenii? [Re: Joust]
#19029146 - 10/25/13 12:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im not convinced ive seen bluing yet, there is bruising but it could be dark blue or black. I only picked one little guy as to not disturb the patch but it seems there is alot popping up there, it doubled in amount of pins overnight last time so ill check tommarow and update with some more mature pics.
-------------------- Favorite quote: I want to know if they are active and magic or not. And if they are not active, can i pick them before they are active and then they will become active or do they have to grow till they activate?
    
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Joust
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Quote:
OregonBlueShroom said: Im not convinced ive seen bluing yet, there is bruising but it could be dark blue or black. I only picked one little guy as to not disturb the patch but it seems there is alot popping up there, it doubled in amount of pins overnight last time so ill check tommarow and update with some more mature pics.
oh your good then Youll see some bluing on the rest
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