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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum [Re: MeanGreen]
    #25135496 - 04/13/18 01:08 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Another flower and one just about ready to pop open, bringing the total to 3 flowers so far:


And here's my best D. bosseranum seedling so far, and some much younger ones showing the cotyledons:


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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum [Re: MeanGreen]
    #25135690 - 04/13/18 02:39 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

That's great! Since your Kanna is flowering indoors, will you try and pollinate it by hand? I'm wondering if it's self fertile though. By the way, how old is that Ephedra?


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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum [Re: Poison Drink]
    #25135968 - 04/13/18 04:23 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I have no idea if it's self fertile either, guess I'm gonna find out. I will try to pollinate the flowers with a paint brush, loph style.

And nice eye haha, that one is about 2 months old, it's Ephedra foemina cf. fragilis "Greece" from seeds harvested in the wild by a friend with great knowledge on the genus.
This species grows super fast, here is the same on March 23rd and some of its sibblings:


I actually germinated a bunch more a couple weeks ago:


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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum [Re: MeanGreen]
    #25137790 - 04/14/18 09:41 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I found some old Delosperma bosseranum seeds from my plants i had years ago.
I sprinkled some seeds in a pot, it will be intresting to see if something germinates.
As my old Kanna seeds from around same time years ago did sprout maybe these will too.
These seeds are really small, like dust almost.


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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum [Re: Mateo]
    #25160422 - 04/23/18 07:18 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

So were your D. bosseranum seeds still viable, Mateo? Mine are growing slowly but steadily.



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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum [Re: Poison Drink]
    #25160467 - 04/23/18 07:33 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, they are viable :smile:

I have a small pot with many tiny seedlings that just have emerged yesterday.
So lucky, both the Kanna and D.Bosseranum seeds have worked despite they are very old.

Yours look wonderful.


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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum - Ephedra sinica [Re: Mateo]
    #25161716 - 04/24/18 08:53 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Didn't see that one coming, one of my D. bosseranum seedlings is flowering already, I swear it must not be more than 3 months old.
But that flower doesn't look anything like D. bosseranum flowers I see online, is it just that it's immature or?


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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum - Ephedra sinica [Re: MeanGreen]
    #25161731 - 04/24/18 09:05 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

The flower has the basic look of the D.Bosseranum but the petals are just short.
Maybe due to it´s young age.
It do look like a D.Bosseranum flower though.
You are probably thinking of other Delosperma flowers.

Some pics of D.Bosseranum flowers from the net



Not sure if all are Delosperma Bosseranum flowers.
There are many Delosperma varietys and flowers do look little different.
Some Delosperma has flowers of other colors and some have long petals and some short, some thin some thick.


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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum - Ephedra sinica [Re: Mateo]
    #25161737 - 04/24/18 09:08 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Nice thanks a lot, yeah I guess google was showing me other species.


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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum - Ephedra sinica [Re: MeanGreen]
    #25161819 - 04/24/18 10:27 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

They grew very fast if those are only three months old. Well done! When I do a google search, I also find mostly pictures of purple D. cooperi flowers. Over the years I harvested dozens of seed pods from my D. bosseranum plants. But to be honest, I have never actually seen it flowering. The flowers might be rather short-lived? Maybe you can tell us shortly, since you discovered them in time. By the way, the seed pods are 'water sensitive' and open up in front of your eyes if you spray them! It's a good strategy to release the seeds when conditions are suitable for germination.



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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum - Ephedra sinica [Re: Poison Drink]
    #25161842 - 04/24/18 10:47 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Wow I've had these growing wild outside most of my houses ever since I was a kid. I used to have a patch where I currently live but a renter let it die.


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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum - Ephedra sinica [Re: Psilosion]
    #25161878 - 04/24/18 11:22 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Psilosion said:
a renter let it die.




Is that even possible? Some dropped seeds might germinate and revive the patch! :biggrin:


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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum - Ephedra sinica [Re: Poison Drink]
    #25162092 - 04/24/18 01:01 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not sure if it really died or someone just dug it out.
It grows all over the place around here, I'll have to get a cutting of it sometime.


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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum - Ephedra sinica [Re: Psilosion]
    #25162393 - 04/24/18 03:20 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I had some neglected D.Bosseranum plants a few years ago and when taking away some dried up plant material i saw there was litteraly hundreds of tiny seeds falling from the dried material.
I put the dried material in a plasic bag and massaged it a little and got thousands of extremely small seeds in the bottom of the bag.
I don´t think i ever saw a flower either but obviosly there must have been some.
It´s these old seeds i have now tryed sow.

I just discovered i accidently had sowed 2 small pots with D.Bosseranum and not only one, and both have tiny leafs starting to grow.
It will be fun to see both Kanna and Delosperma grow again.
I only have 3 kanna seedlings but i hope they will make it, they look good so far.


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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum - Ephedra sinica [Re: Mateo]
    #25162401 - 04/24/18 03:26 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Psilosion, if you have them growing all over why dont you try the magic of these plants.
Both Kanna and Delosperma are used for stimulating and recreational purposes and from what i hear the effects can be very nice.


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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum - Ephedra sinica [Re: Mateo]
    #25162496 - 04/24/18 04:05 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

While on the topic, has anyone tried Delosperma snuff?
I consume Kanna often so I'm curious how the effects differ with Delosperma.

And for sure PoisonDrink, I'll make sure to let you know how long the flower lasts.


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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum - Ephedra sinica [Re: Mateo]
    #25162527 - 04/24/18 04:22 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Mateo said:
Psilosion, if you have them growing all over why dont you try the magic of these plants.
Both Kanna and Delosperma are used for stimulating and recreational purposes and from what i hear the effects can be very nice.




Do I need an MAOI to feel it? Definitely interested, I think the ones in my area have purple flowers.


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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum - Ephedra sinica [Re: Psilosion]
    #25162774 - 04/24/18 06:43 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

You dont need mix this with MAOIs.
If i remember correctly one should mash the plant up into smaller crushed pieces and just store it in a plastic bag and let it start ferment.
Put the bag in warm place, maybe in sunlight.
Then i think it´s dried.
I think it can be both consumed and smoked.
You have to look it up, just google Kanna and how to do.
It should have nice mood lifting effects at lower doses and more europhoric and sedative effects in higher doses if my memory is correct.


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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum - Ephedra sinica [Re: Mateo]
    #25162796 - 04/24/18 07:01 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

The roots, leaves and trunk of the succulent plant can all be prepared into a substance that one can chew, smoke, snuff or make tea of.

Here you go,
Kanna preparation

Delosperma should be prepared in same way i guess.


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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum - Ephedra sinica [Re: Mateo]
    #25163561 - 04/25/18 01:54 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I believe you shouldn't take this with a MAO inhibitor, since these succulents contain SSRI's and the combination is not recommended. I haven't tried D. bosseranum yet, because I never really had enough plant material. Also, I wouldn't know how to go about preparing it for consumption. I did try commercial Kanna extract and tea, though I wasn't very impressed with the effects.


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