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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum - Ephedra sinica [Re: Poison Drink]
#26191607 - 09/16/19 12:05 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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I took some S. tortuosum cuttings a couple of days ago. The plants were getting a bit lanky, and after the trim they won't take in as much space in my grow chamber once I have to bring them indoors again.
Also, the succulents didn't seem to enjoy the exclusively artificial light all that much last winter. I can find the cuttings a place in front of a window to see if they'll do better there. And if I should loose some of the older plants, I can fall back on those cuttings.
Today I discovered one of the cuttings is flowering, the one in the middle of the picture! Hopefully it will strike root and will continue to flower. And hopefully the plants will grow more flowers as well.
So like the South-African farmer pointed out in the video above, I will give the cuttings the impression that they're about to die and leave them to callous. I was planning to wait for about a week, unless someone recommends a different duration? I know these succulents keep for a long time before losing turgidity..
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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum [Re: Poison Drink]
#26194134 - 09/17/19 03:52 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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I came to realize that I should have removed the lower leaves of the cuttings. I did just now and will leave them be a while longer for the cuts to callous. This gave me a small amount of plant material which I prepared for fermentation. While handling the cuttings I discovered at least two other flowers. Hopefully this won't delay or prevent the rooting of the cuttings though. Recently I experimented again with commercial Kanna and definitely found it enjoyable, so I will make an effort to expand my succulent collection.
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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum [Re: Poison Drink]
#26298754 - 11/04/19 03:42 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I took my succulents back indoors again as it was raining days on end and getting fairly cold during the night. Most of the Kanna cuttings made it but I accidentally snapped off some pieces while handling the pots, so I pushed those into the soil hoping they will root without callousing.

The outdoor D. bosseranum had a lot of dried seed pods which I harvested. No idea if it still contains a lot of seeds though, since the pods open up when it rains to disperse the seeds. The indoor D. bosseranum looks lush and green in comparison.
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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum [Re: Poison Drink] 1
#26309775 - 11/09/19 04:52 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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One of the S. tortuosum plants started flowering again indoors. An oscillating fan might have accomplished pollination..
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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum [Re: Poison Drink]
#26310797 - 11/10/19 02:01 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nice, PD! It does look like pods are gonna form below those spent flowers, I might give your fan tek a try haha.
Here are some young seedlings from the seeds I harvested on my plant. Check-out the weird one with a single cotyledon.

And my bigger plant, starting to bloom again now:
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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum [Re: MeanGreen]
#26321525 - 11/15/19 03:49 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Seed pod forming?
nice pictures everyone
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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum [Re: Caster]
#26321754 - 11/15/19 07:18 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mine didn't seem to grow to much over the last year
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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum [Re: Johnny Dont] 1
#26706934 - 05/30/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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My S. tortuosum plants have been outdoors for about a month now. I think they might receive a bit too much sun because the leaves are yellowish, even though they just receive a couple of hours of direct morning sun. I only have a very sunny terrace available, otherwise I would have put them somewhere more shady. These are hard grown plants, that's why they're rather small for their age. But they'll manage.

The D. bosseranum has survived winter indoors as well. I don't think these plants will get a lot bigger than this.

I planted some S. tortuosum cuttings and also sowed some D. bosseranum seeds in the cacti grafts planter as cover crops. These are growing much faster than my hard grown plants because they get organic fertilizer on a regular basis and get less direct sun. The S. tortuosum noticeably grows more weedy.

I aquired some other Sceletium spp. seeds about half a year ago and started growing them at the start of winter. They supposedly are winter growers, but in these parts of the world they stay mostly dormant. The seedlings had a growth spurt the last couple of weeks. I also germinated the remaining seeds a month or two ago, so there are a couple younger seedlings in between.
Only one S. emarcidum seed had germinated, but it's the fastest growing one. Maybe it being alone in the pot might have something to do with it as well. It has wider leafs compared to S. tortuosum.

S. subvelutinum has long, narrow leaves.

The next two are variants of S. tortuosum I believe. Sceletium sp. SB 661 and S. joubertii.

And lastly S. nova. Maybe this is a variant of S. tortuosum as well. A lot is unclear in the taxonomy of these succulents.

I also ordered S. rigidum seeds, but sadly none germinated.
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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum [Re: Poison Drink]
#26707303 - 05/30/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Beautiful work Poison Drink! Thanks for sharing your progress with us.
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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum [Re: Poison Drink]
#26736173 - 06/11/20 07:42 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Awesome! Thanks for sharing. I started with bosseranum this year, inspired by your tests 
How did you get your hands on these Sceletium spp? Are you going to do assays on them as well?
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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum [Re: Poison Drink] 1
#26832041 - 07/19/20 07:01 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Most of the outdoor S. tortuosum are flowering. I wonder if there's a native insect capable of pollinating them. I did already spot some activity so fingers crossed.

These D. bosseranum are still chugging along. I believe they're about two years old.

The cacti grafts planter ground cover is doing great as well.

And the various Sceletium spp. are still indoors in a mini greenhouse. I'm thinking about taking some cuttings and separating them into their own pot. That way I can try to slowly acclimate (some of) them to outdoor conditions.

Anyone else growing any of these succulents this year?
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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum [Re: Poison Drink]
#26844774 - 07/25/20 02:55 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Delosperma bosseranum - Sceletium tortuosum [Re: Poison Drink]
#26844785 - 07/25/20 03:01 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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hi PD, they look lovely. hope to have few nice kanna meself in future
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Official Sceletium tortuosum (Kanna), Delosperma bosseranum and other Sceletium spp. Thread [Re: RatsboggleBiologic]
#26873362 - 08/10/20 01:33 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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At the request of some friendly shroomerites, I have changed the title of this thread so that more people will be able to find it and share cultivation experiences.
I believe some of my Kanna flowers might have been pollinated, as there's a bulging under the withered flower. Last year the same thing happened indoors, where they only had an oscillating fan blowing on them. Sadly nothing came of it. Now the plants are outdoors and could have been pollinated by insects, so fingers crossed!

@RatsboggleBiologic: It shouldn't be too hard finding Kanna seeds. I think the shelf life of these seeds isn't too bad, so if they're still somewhat fresh, you should be able to germinate them! I vaguely remember keeping some seeds for half a year and still having some pop up. And they were bought from a vendor so who knows how old they were before I got them.
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Re: Official Sceletium tortuosum (Kanna), Delosperma bosseranum and other Sceletium spp. Thread [Re: Poison Drink]
#26874573 - 08/11/20 07:44 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I hope you get some seeds there Poison Drink! Thanks for continuing to update this thread with new info. I love to see the progress with your plants and to hear what new insights you're learning about them.
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Re: Official Sceletium tortuosum (Kanna), Delosperma bosseranum and other Sceletium spp. Thread [Re: Grey Fox]
#26924581 - 09/08/20 12:02 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have repotted my S. tortuosum plants a week or two ago, and they look a lot greener already and have pushed out new growth. Some plants are still flowering, and most are growing seed pods as well. The ones I posted a picture of a month ago are still attached to the plant and have swollen a bit more, so I have high hopes!

How's everyone else's plants doing?
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Re: Official Sceletium tortuosum (Kanna), Delosperma bosseranum and other Sceletium spp. Thread [Re: RatsboggleBiologic] 1
#26924810 - 09/08/20 02:46 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sadly there's not a lot of information to be found about the different Sceletium spp. Some pictures of a couple of Sceletium spp. can be found on this Italian site. I especially like the S. subvelutinum plant, which I believe is synonymous with S. varians. I hope mine turn out that great! The S. joubertii is supposedly synonymous with S. tortuosum though.
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Re: Official Sceletium tortuosum (Kanna), Delosperma bosseranum and other Sceletium spp. Thread [Re: Poison Drink] 1
#27083713 - 12/11/20 09:56 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I took all of my succulents back indoors when autumn began to come through. I repotted the plants about four months ago, so they grew a bit lanky due to having new nutrients available in combination with the lower light levels.

Four months ago, some seedpods started to form under the faded flowers. These seedpods have finally matured and had dried out on the plant, so I was excited to see if any seeds had formed. One of the bigger plants still is producing flowers, but had one mature seedpod as well. I did some dissection on one of the seedpods to show its structure.

The best yielding seedpod had no less than 75 seeds! Even the tiniest seedpod of which I didn't include a picture contained 20 seeds. The other two seedpods I harvested, contained about 40-60 seeds.
The other Sceletium spp. are doing fine as well. They are still indoors in a window sill, but don't get a lot of light these days. Maybe I will place them under a grow LED.
Sceletium nova:

Sceletium emarcidum:

Sceletium joubertii:

Sceletium sp. SB661:

Sceletium subvelutinum:

I hope they all make it through winter!
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