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Are these Matsutake??? (North Georgia)
    #19024718 - 10/24/13 10:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)


Found under oak.


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Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus

(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus


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Re: Are these Matsutake??? (North Georgia) [Re: Hashfinger]
    #19024724 - 10/24/13 10:03 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

What do they smell like?


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Re: Are these Matsutake??? (North Georgia) [Re: RiverDweller1]
    #19024735 - 10/24/13 10:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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What do they smell like?



Really good strong mushroomy smell. Some of the more rotten ones had a kind of "off" smell, but all the good ones smell amazing. Nutty and earthy, with its own unique spice I can't put my finger on.


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Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus

(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus


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Re: Are these Matsutake??? (North Georgia) [Re: Hashfinger]
    #19024791 - 10/24/13 10:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Unless there are different varieties then I would say no this is not a
matsutake.

The cap is wrong and according to my books they should be found under conifers only.

They do not look right with those fibrils the way they are.

The one I recently found.



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Re: Are these Matsutake??? (North Georgia) [Re: Ganzig]
    #19024804 - 10/24/13 10:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Ganzig said:
Unless there are different varieties then I would say no this is not a
matsutake.

The cap is wrong and according to my books they should be found under conifers only.

They do not look right with those fibrils the way they are.

The one I recently found.





Actually there are a few different "matsutake" Tricholoma species. And indeed, some do grow under hardwood. I've heard rumors of Matsutake in Georgia during autumn, but I never knew what to look for. I just stumbled upon these.


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Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus

(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus


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Re: Are these Matsutake??? (North Georgia) [Re: Hashfinger]
    #19024868 - 10/24/13 10:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe something close to Tricholoma caligatum


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Re: Are these Matsutake??? (North Georgia) [Re: mountainplayer]
    #19024876 - 10/24/13 10:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Good call.

You should read this.

Pretty funny.

http://www.mushroomexpert.com/tricholoma_caligatum.html


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Re: Are these Matsutake??? (North Georgia) [Re: mountainplayer]
    #19024897 - 10/24/13 10:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Maybe something close to Tricholoma caligatum



That was my closest guess from the reading I had done. :thumbup: I think I might try frying up one of the buttons and see how the flavor is. Taste test and I'll report back.


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Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus

(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus


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Re: Are these Matsutake??? (North Georgia) [Re: Hashfinger]
    #19024906 - 10/24/13 10:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Before I taste... I am going to make a prediction that it tastes good and has mild to no bitterness at all. I would also like to add that the gills bruise a bluish color, and the stems seem to be lacking in "fibres" below the annular zone. Actually the stems are pretty much bare of any fibers whatsoever except right around the annulus.


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Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus

(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus


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Re: Are these Matsutake??? (North Georgia) [Re: Ganzig]
    #19024939 - 10/24/13 10:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Good call.

You should read this.

Pretty funny.

http://www.mushroomexpert.com/tricholoma_caligatum.html



:laugh2: i can just picture this poor guy laying in the middle of a forest, screaming. lol


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Re: Are these Matsutake??? (North Georgia) [Re: Hashfinger]
    #19024947 - 10/24/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The results are in... Fried in olive oil with a bit of onion and a dash of salt...
YUCK! Bitter as can be...


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Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus

(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus


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Re: Are these Matsutake??? (North Georgia) [Re: art2312]
    #19024948 - 10/24/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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art2312 said:
Quote:

Ganzig said:
Good call.

You should read this.

Pretty funny.

http://www.mushroomexpert.com/tricholoma_caligatum.html



:laugh2: i can just picture this poor guy laying in the middle of a forest, screaming. lol



Easily twice as bitter as reishi...


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Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus

(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus


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Re: Are these Matsutake??? (North Georgia) [Re: Hashfinger]
    #19024962 - 10/24/13 10:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Hashfinger said:
Quote:

art2312 said:
Quote:

Ganzig said:
Good call.

You should read this.

Pretty funny.

http://www.mushroomexpert.com/tricholoma_caligatum.html



:laugh2: i can just picture this poor guy laying in the middle of a forest, screaming. lol



Easily twice as bitter as reishi...



damn...so not exactly a choice edible then lol...shitty


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Re: Are these Matsutake??? (North Georgia) [Re: art2312]
    #19025050 - 10/24/13 11:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

art2312 said:
Quote:

Hashfinger said:
Quote:

art2312 said:
Quote:

Ganzig said:
Good call.

You should read this.

Pretty funny.

http://www.mushroomexpert.com/tricholoma_caligatum.html



:laugh2: i can just picture this poor guy laying in the middle of a forest, screaming. lol



Easily twice as bitter as reishi...



damn...so not exactly a choice edible then lol...shitty



Not this species or variety unfortunately. I'll keep my eyes open and take good note though. There is a complex of species in this group, and some may or may not have the blue staining, etc.


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Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus

(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus


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Re: Are these Matsutake??? (North Georgia) [Re: Hashfinger]
    #19025099 - 10/24/13 11:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

T. caligatum it is then!


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Re: Are these Matsutake??? (North Georgia) [Re: Ganzig]
    #19025359 - 10/24/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hash, you could cross section one of your specimens and see if the flesh stains.

Cool that you went ahead with the taste test...you took one for the team!


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Re: Are these Matsutake??? (North Georgia) [Re: mountainplayer]
    #19025612 - 10/24/13 01:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Hash, you could cross section one of your specimens and see if the flesh stains.

Cool that you went ahead with the taste test...you took one for the team!



It stained blue readily on the gills


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(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus


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Re: Are these Matsutake??? (North Georgia) [Re: Hashfinger]
    #19025709 - 10/24/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

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Hash, you could cross section one of your specimens and see if the flesh stains.

Cool that you went ahead with the taste test...you took one for the team!



It stained blue readily on the gills




One of my matsis stained blue as well. Just one. A young specimen.
It was definitely T. magnivelar


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Re: Are these Matsutake??? (North Georgia) [Re: Ganzig]
    #19025758 - 10/24/13 01:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Ganzig said:
Quote:

Hashfinger said:
Quote:

mountainplayer said:
Hash, you could cross section one of your specimens and see if the flesh stains.

Cool that you went ahead with the taste test...you took one for the team!



It stained blue readily on the gills




One of my matsis stained blue as well. Just one. A young specimen.
It was definitely T. magnivelar



:strokebeard:


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(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus


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Re: Are these Matsutake??? (North Georgia) [Re: Hashfinger]
    #19025789 - 10/24/13 01:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Check it



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