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sosarya
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Missed 2 Steps. Any ideas?
#19021230 - 10/23/13 07:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hello all, I've had too many experience with pre-inoculated grow bags but I am kind of new in terms of making your own cakes. I recently prepared Cakes with pfTek method but I realised that I missed 2 steps.
1. After %100 colonization, I should have wait for one more week before getting them out of jars for consolidation purpose.
2. I did not rinsed or submerged the cakes in cold water before putting in the growing chamber.
It's been like a week since I put them in growing chamber and I cannot still see any major change.
The mycelium looks fine in my opinion. Room temp 84 F. Sprayed once every day and there are lots of holes in the chamber for air exchange.
Any suggestions ? Should I rinse and submerge in cold water even I already put them in the chamber ?
All suggestions appreciated.
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Re: Missed 2 Steps. Any ideas? [Re: sosarya]
#19021307 - 10/23/13 07:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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At this rate, they are likely to dry out before they fruit.
Go ahead and dunk for 24 hours and then roll in vermiculite. Put them in FC. Wait half hour or so and mist. If you mist too soon, you will just wash the vermiculite off.
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sosarya
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Quote:
SpitballJedi said: At this rate, they are likely to dry out before they fruit.
Go ahead and dunk for 24 hours and then roll in vermiculite. Put them in FC. Wait half hour or so and mist. If you mist too soon, you will just wash the vermiculite off.
For best results, learn to follow instructions.
Hello and thanks for your suggestion!
I dunked 20 cakes into a huge plastic container but I see they do not sink underwater. They float at the surface so my concern is they won't get %100 soaked. Would it be a problem ?
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Re: Missed 2 Steps. Any ideas? [Re: sosarya]
#19021725 - 10/23/13 08:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Take the cakes out of the bag and put them in your canner and fill it with water then put a plate over it to weigh the cakes down to make them completely submerged. Because they are so parched you may want to leave them dunked for like 36 hrs instead if 24. Your cakes are special needs.
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Re: Missed 2 Steps. Any ideas? [Re: sosarya]
#19021727 - 10/23/13 08:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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weigh them down with something
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Re: Missed 2 Steps. Any ideas? [Re: bodhisatta]
#19021851 - 10/23/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: weigh them down with something 
Since the container is REALLY BIG, I will need to find something that can fill the whole surface. I am thinking of buying the same container since they can nest each other. I really dk what else I can put there lol ..
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Re: Missed 2 Steps. Any ideas? [Re: sosarya]
#19024519 - 10/24/13 09:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm sure there is some clever way to do it. Unless you live out of your car you should be able to find some things to figure this out with
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illumi.naughty87
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Re: Missed 2 Steps. Any ideas? [Re: sosarya]
#19024543 - 10/24/13 09:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dude... you have a canner/stock pot/pc (i know you do) How about a dinner plate? 1+1=2
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Re: Missed 2 Steps. Any ideas? [Re: sosarya]
#19024796 - 10/24/13 10:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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just put a couple plates ontop so they're all submerged.
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Re: Missed 2 Steps. Any ideas? [Re: sosarya]
#19024815 - 10/24/13 10:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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as said by spitball do a dunk, your cakes will be on the dry side if you dont. You will get pins you just have to be patient. Since you didnt wait for your cakes to consolidate they will continue to do so in your FC until they are ready to pin so you will have them in your FC for about a week longer.
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Re: Missed 2 Steps. Any ideas? [Re: NikkiDubbed]
#19024840 - 10/24/13 10:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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After the cakes have been dunked, you might want to consider misting your cakes more often since you have only been spraying them once a day according to your original post.
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Re: Missed 2 Steps. Any ideas? [Re: NikkiDubbed] 1
#19024844 - 10/24/13 10:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for giving that brilliant advice there bud. Hey can ANOTHER user come in here and repeat that again for the OP. Thanks in advance!
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Stop being a douche-bag
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Thats like... your opinion... man... 
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Edited by illumi.naughty87 (10/24/13 09:53 PM)
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Dunk dude. I just dunked after my first flush, and a new pin set showed up over night. And by over night I mean when I took the cakes out of the dunking water, I noticed a pin set that was not there 12 hours before.
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Re: Missed 2 Steps. Any ideas? [Re: KatuXiK]
#19027455 - 10/24/13 06:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for the suggestions! They are now underwater like 20 hours. I plan taking them after 30 hours. I found a way to submerge the cakes. I won't be spraying FC more than 1 times a day because I have perlite and I will soak it with water and put into to FC.
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Re: Missed 2 Steps. Any ideas? [Re: sosarya]
#19028201 - 10/24/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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OK
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Re: Missed 2 Steps. Any ideas? [Re: sosarya]
#19028294 - 10/24/13 08:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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sosarya said: I won't be spraying FC more than 1 times a day because I have perlite and I will soak it with water and put into to FC.
We do not mist for humidity, we mist to replace lost moisture in the cakes.
Mist the cakes directly with a fine mist until they glistn, then fan out the chamber.
Mist again once the water you previously applied has evaporated.
You should be doing this at least 2 times a day.
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Re: Missed 2 Steps. Any ideas? [Re: sosarya]
#19028598 - 10/24/13 10:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You sound like you are butchering your first grow. You seem to be doing very little research, then just winging it with somewhat a minimal clue as to what you are supposed to be doing. I know I come across as a dick but I feel like someone has to.
Do yourself a huge favor and please watch Lets Grow Mushrooms video series. Buy it.
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By the time I made my research, It was too late. That is why I am here asking what can be done to minimize damage. I am not here to be judged by your wise-as s
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