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Re: Almighty God My Ass! [Re: Stromrider]
    #19061622 - 10/31/13 02:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

What good of a daddy would god be if he wouldn't let his children make their own experiences so they can have an own opinion and own decisions ?
That's why there is suffering on earth. To end it, it needs a choice.


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Re: Almighty God My Ass! [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #19061671 - 10/31/13 03:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah a real good daddy. Do everything I command and have faith I exist or I will punish you to eternal pain and suffering. Give me a break man


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Re: Almighty God My Ass! [Re: Stromrider]
    #19061692 - 10/31/13 03:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It's not g*d who/which punishes us, it's ourselves.
:jointsmile:


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Re: Almighty God My Ass! [Re: Specimen]
    #19061897 - 10/31/13 06:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

"Fuck everything you heard about god...

and believe only what I say about it":monkeydance:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Almighty God My Ass! [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #19061903 - 10/31/13 06:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

BlueCoyote said:
It's not g*d who/which punishes us, it's ourselves.
:jointsmile:





How do you figure that?


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Re: Almighty God My Ass! [Re: Icelander]
    #19061968 - 10/31/13 06:50 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Icelander said:
"Fuck everything you heard about god...

and believe only what I say about it":monkeydance:





:yesnod::rofl:


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Re: Almighty God My Ass! [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #19063474 - 10/31/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Oh sheesh, maybe I should have used better words.

God is not something that can be written about; better?


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Edited by Specimen (10/31/13 01:46 PM)


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Re: Almighty God My Ass! [Re: Specimen]
    #19063750 - 10/31/13 02:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I believe that understanding who God is comes from Reason and experience.

The scriptures are where to find the definition of God - at least, it's where to find the definition of the God that Christ, Moses, Buddha, Mohammed, etc., worshiped.

I am saying that the people who wrote the scriptures were calling Psychedelics "God" and that that is the true God.

For instance, the Hindus have a God called "Soma". Hindus today believe that Soma was a plant. However, they no longer know the identity of which plant Soma was, and so, they understand that they are using a substitute for the original.
   
The Vedas call Soma "the Creator of the Gods". Thus, Soma was what the
Christians call "the Father".

Most world religions had, or still have, a Communion ceremony. In the "Christian" Communion, they eat a wheat wafer, or drink wine and are then supposed to believe that these substances magically turn into the flesh and blood of God (Christ). They are then supposed to be able to see the "Light" and to receive the "Holy Spirit". When you ask them if they actually saw a real light or heard a real spirit they say "no".

When a person communes with the true Flesh and Blood of Christ, they see a real Light and receive a real Holy Spirit.

Does any "Christian" today think that the original Christians didn't see a real Light or receive a real Holy Spirit? Why then does no one today see these things?
   
I believe that today's "Christians" have not only lost the identity of the true Host, but they have lost the knowledge that the substance they are calling the "Host", is, in fact, a substitute.
   
The (Mexican) Nahua word for Psilocybin, Teonanacatl, means “God’s Flesh”.
   
1Kings, 8,10: When the priests came out of the inner shrine, a Cloud filled the temple of the Lord so densely that the priests could not stand up to serve; for the splendour of glory of the Lord filled the temple of the Lord. -- What do you think they were burning on the altar?
   
Psalm 18, 9: Smoke fumed from Their nostrils, and scorching fire from Their lips kindled blazing coals, as down They came on the bending sky, the storm Cloud at Their feet. They rode on flying cherubs, and swooped with the wings of the wind; shrouding Themselves in darkness that veiled Their Presence round, with rain Clouds dark and dense.
    Storm Clouds rolled in front of Them, with hail and lightning flashes, and from Heaven the Lord thundered, the Most High uttered Their voice; They scattered Their arrows, shot twisting flashes of lightning, till the beds of the Waters were seen and the earth’s foundations were laid bare,
    At Thy storming, O Lord,
    At the blast of the Breathe of Thy Nostrils
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    1 St. John, 2, 26):  I am writing to you in this way about those who  would deceive you, but the Oil you received from him remains within you and you really need no teaching from anyone; simply remain in him, for his Oil teaches you about everything and is true and is no lie--remain in him,  as his Oil has taught you to do.


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The Day of the Lord has come like a thief in the night. -- It is there but no one knows it.


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Re: Almighty God My Ass! [Re: Specimen] * 1
    #19065954 - 10/31/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Specimen said:
God is not something that can be written about; better?




Quote:

Specimen said:
God isn't something that has freewill.

God is an indispensable being; not some connotation written in context. Hes the dude who decided to create reality. He also the dude who can take your reality away.




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Re: Almighty God My Ass! [Re: Sleepwalker] * 1
    #19066020 - 10/31/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:haha:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Almighty God My Ass! [Re: Icelander]
    #19066207 - 10/31/13 09:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Taking my words waaaay to fucking literally; I sware, athiest's get much more defensive and butt hurt then most Christians I know.

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God is not something that can be written about; better?




LET ME REITERATE, NO HOLY SCRIPTURE HAS THE RIGHT TO SAY WHAT GOD THINKS IS RIGHT AND WRONG.

Quote:


Hes the dude who decided to create reality. He also the dude who can take your reality away.




LET ME REITERATE, I PERSONALLY BELIEVE GOD IS THE CREATION AND THE ENDING.

Yall wanna stop spamming and give your input, or you just gonna sit behind that computer and laugh like you know more then everyone else?
@Icelander
@Sleepwalker

Fucking forums man, half of the threads consist of over observant people who can read into everything but "can," "maybe," "should," "shouldn't."


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Re: Almighty God My Ass! [Re: Specimen]
    #19066542 - 10/31/13 10:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Specimen said:
Taking my words waaaay to fucking literally; I sware, athiest's get much more defensive and butt hurt then most Christians I know.

LET ME REITERATE, I PERSONALLY BELIEVE GOD IS THE CREATION AND THE ENDING.




:lol:  Why didn't you just say that in the first place? I can only read and understand what you type.
The accuracy of my understanding depends on the accuracy of what you've written.

I'm the butthurt one? You seem pretty worked up.


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Re: Almighty God My Ass! [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #19066724 - 10/31/13 10:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

chill.

You should have been able to assume I believed in god when I first started talking about him/her being the creator and the end game. Dont break thing's down word for word, imagine having a conversation.....

We are in a thread based on controversial topics and you seem to assume that my opinion is based upon factual belief, and disregard it as such with petty sarcasm. Rather recognizing that im here for the sake of argument to stimulate my own aspiration for god and or a righteous ideal.

While you contribute nothing and your presumably bias opinion of "believers" being bias is outright frustrating and difficult to put into words. Especially when dealing with Inquisitive, un-opinionated, prejudiced, sociopath's.
(Not plural in this situation.)

So yes, I am pretty worked up. You dont do anything but interrogate impossible questions that have impossible answers. Your not here to learn, your not here to discuss. From what I have seen of your last few posts, your here to bigot people.

Contribute, I hope you will find me very open minded; I have changed beliefs more then a few times only to find faith the only viable option for any and all things.


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Edited by Specimen (10/31/13 10:34 PM)


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Re: Almighty God My Ass! [Re: Specimen]
    #19066789 - 10/31/13 10:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Specimen said:
LET ME REITERATE, I PERSONALLY BELIEVE GOD IS THE CREATION AND THE ENDING.






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Why can't you be normal!
What you mean to say is, Average.

What's the pride in country if it robs a man of will?
What's the pride in manhood if a man will rape and kill?
What's the pride in killing if the dead will rise again?
Ah, but there's a pride in knowing the enemies within.


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Re: Almighty God My Ass! [Re: Specimen]
    #19066896 - 10/31/13 10:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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you seem to assume that my opinion is based upon factual belief




I don't know what gives you that impression.

Listen, it's not my fault you were contradicting yourself.  Sorry if I came off as an ass.  Feel free to believe I'm a sociopath if you like.  :grin:


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Re: Almighty God My Ass! [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #19067084 - 10/31/13 11:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

you seem to assume that my opinion is based upon factual belief, and disregard it as such with petty sarcasm.


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Re: Almighty God My Ass! [Re: Specimen]
    #19067191 - 11/01/13 12:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So what you're saying is your beliefs are not based on facts?  How do you expect to share them then?

I understand how subjective experiences can be convincing, but that type of thing is usually best kept to oneself because it will never be objective.

You have made the assumption in this thread that I am an atheist.  I will not claim to know that there is no god.  In fact at times in my life I have been convinced that there is.  I'm not gonna try to prove it to anyone though, that would be silly.  Especially because I can't even prove it to myself.


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Re: Almighty God My Ass! [Re: Specimen]
    #19067302 - 11/01/13 12:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Who you calling a sociopath?  And who you calling an athiest?  You are certainly free with the name calling.  I think you and I are going to get along just fine.  For the short time you last here that is. :satansmoking:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Almighty God My Ass! [Re: Icelander]
    #19067414 - 11/01/13 12:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

So what you're saying is your beliefs are not based on facts?  How do you expect to share them then?




The same way I can say that facts stem from opinion.
But of course that would reprimand logic. And is another topic for another thread, sorry if I have seemed antagonistic. Today has been stressful but I hate complaining about my problems; sorry if I seemed, uh frustrating.


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Re: Almighty God My Ass! [Re: Stromrider]
    #19070094 - 11/01/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Stromrider said:
Quote:

BlueCoyote said:
It's not g*d who/which punishes us, it's ourselves.
:jointsmile:





How do you figure that?



Most of the time we have/had a choice to choose for better.


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