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Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA
    #19021965 - 10/23/13 09:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I was curious to know if this mushroom is edible  Smells great and there were plenty of very similar looking younger specimens fruiting around that area

Habitat:

Fruiting in a well-irrigated, manicured grass lawn near some large deciduous trees (was not sure about tree species)

Gills:
Gills are free from stem.  They seem very beefy and thick, and run straight. Spore print yielded warm grey-brown spores.

Stem:
3 1/2" long, 5/8" in diameter.  Solid and thick with a little give when pinched.  Color runs from white near the cap into blondish brown near the base.  Annulus is

Cap:
5 1/4" in diameter
Color is sandy brown to white.  Smooth at edges.  Scaly and wrinkled in the middle.  Top layer of skin seems to peel.  Cap is depressed in the middle and slopes down at the edges

Spore print color:
Warm light brown

Bruising:
Unknown

Other information:
Smells like a mushroom! :tongue: Light earthy scent. . . faintly sweet.  Not gross at all.



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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: brown_jenkin]
    #19021983 - 10/23/13 09:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

My guess Psyathrella or Laccrymaria . Not A TI. So dont go by my guess.


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
    #19021989 - 10/23/13 09:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Agaricus species.


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
    #19021991 - 10/23/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

U said the gills wer thick. Was the mushrooms brittle?

If it was Psyathrella the print would be black so i withdraw that first guess.


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: jet li]
    #19022000 - 10/23/13 09:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Agaricus species.



:whathesaid: ifeel like a tard now. I was sitting here saying to myself man ive seen tons of these what is it! Prolly Agaricus arvensis


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
    #19022002 - 10/23/13 09:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry Jet! Im always doing that.


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
    #19022009 - 10/23/13 09:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Aorta be!  No really though sorry for what?


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: jet li]
    #19022042 - 10/23/13 09:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Lol youre quick i edited that. Anyway sorry i guessed before doing any real research. I put my foot in my mouth. I should have known it was Agaricus right off!


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
    #19022045 - 10/23/13 09:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The cap and stem can flex and bend.  I guess they wouldn't qualify as such.  Cap and stem are white upon breaking open.


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
    #19022053 - 10/23/13 09:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ive found thousands of these. Its like when u forget a name of a movie and its on the tip of your tongue. While the pressure is on your mind draws a blank, then later when no ones around you remember it:facepalm3: oh yeah u say lol!


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: brown_jenkin]
    #19022056 - 10/23/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You'd be surprised at how much those types of details can help with identifying mushrooms.


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: brown_jenkin]
    #19022064 - 10/23/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The cap and stem can flex and bend.  I guess they wouldn't qualify as such.  Cap and stem are white upon breaking open.



O ok. Like Jet said Agaricus sp. my guess would be arvensis, look for yellow staining. If it stains yellow they are Prolly A. Arvensis. If it doesnt stain yellow I dunno MAYBE. A. Campestris but those usually have white caps and pink gills:shrug:

I found a shit ton of these couple weeks ago. Wiki said arvensis are great edibles hut can cause gastric upsets just like Armillaria do.


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: jet li]
    #19022070 - 10/23/13 09:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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You'd be surprised at how much those types of details can help with identifying mushrooms.



:whathesaid:


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
    #19022153 - 10/23/13 09:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Stem looks way too thin for arvensis. Some kind of agaricus would be my 2cents, then again, you guys established that...


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: Oeric McKenna]
    #19022193 - 10/23/13 09:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
    #19022198 - 10/23/13 09:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Dint mean to dirty your thread up, deleted my pic :wink:


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
    #19022206 - 10/23/13 09:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Shoot. I should say that the gills have darkened since I picked them (about 6 hours ago) and they were just stored in open air in the car.  The younger neighbors of the specimen in the photos had whiter caps and pink gills. 

Give me a minute to get them on the cyberweb.  Total greenhorn here. :blush:


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: brown_jenkin]
    #19022212 - 10/23/13 09:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Take your time buddy. Im not A trusted identifier but these other guys are. I offer guesses from my own personal findings. Ive found a bunch of Agaricus i can give links to if itl help ya. Including one last week with super pink gills and a cracked cap.


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
    #19022235 - 10/23/13 09:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

however xfsketch has tallied more hours of hunting than the entire remainder of shroomery members combined


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: jet li]
    #19022262 - 10/23/13 10:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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however xfsketch has tallied more hours of hunting than the entire remainder of shroomery members combined



Lmfao and I still cant tell an Agaricus from a Psyathrella!


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
    #19022314 - 10/23/13 10:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So these are just from an iphone, so there are depth of field and focus issues.  I should point out that the pic of the smallest mushroom that wasn't included in the initial ID Request had these cool beads of golden liquid clinging to the annulus ring.  Very cool structure.



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    #19022335 - 10/23/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
    #19022343 - 10/23/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Actually im sticking with all or them being Agaricus campestris now that I look more,


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
    #19022402 - 10/23/13 10:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Im thinking mor about your finds and I KNOW ive found those before. Might not be campestris but thats the only name I can come up with lol. The ring being bumpy like that I remember i have had this IDed before. but im second guessing. A TI will help u out im gonna quit rambling lol.


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: brown_jenkin]
    #19022431 - 10/23/13 10:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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So these are just from an iphone, so there are depth of field and focus issues.




And yet they are many times better than the average picture members with the same phone post.

:laugh::thumbup:

I suspect those are A. californicus (admittedly in part because every promising Agaricus I find in this state in grass turns out to be), but that is a guess. How do the bases of the stipes smell when you crush them a little?


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
    #19022454 - 10/23/13 10:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Cool.  Thanks for your help, xfsketch (and all y'all). :rockon:

Upon further reading in Mushrooms Demystified, Agaricus Campestris seems like a great fit/guess! These mushies are not staining yellow and when ya cut through the stem there is a white cavity that has a different texture then the encircling outer stem tissue.


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: canid]
    #19022487 - 10/23/13 10:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

They do look like californicus Canid
http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Agaricus_californicus.html

And YW brown_jenkin! Its a possibility they are californicus like Canid said too :wink:


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: canid]
    #19022489 - 10/23/13 10:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

canid. . . what are "stipes?"  :confused:

Oh. . .giving the stipes a pinch, the general smell becomes stronger, but doesn't seem any different than how the mushrooms smell generally.  I also have terrible sense of smell.


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
    #19022496 - 10/23/13 10:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:asianofapproval:
Stipe = stem :wink:


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: brown_jenkin]
    #19022506 - 10/23/13 10:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

In a muhsroom, the stipe is the https://www.google.com/search?q=stipe

:wink:

anyway, if there is no yellow staining at all and no amount of any nauseating chemical smell, then that is promising.


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
    #19022512 - 10/23/13 10:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I think its cool u did all that research but I think Canid is right since you are in CA. I find those here tho too which seems odd.:shrug:


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
    #19022524 - 10/23/13 10:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Not nessesarily. I take a pretty simplistic approach to semi-identifying most Agaricus from grass, and it is certainly non-expert.


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: canid]
    #19022530 - 10/23/13 10:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I think u do very good bud, im usually guessing wrong then right then wrong again lol I lack consistency.


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
    #19022546 - 10/23/13 10:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Compare to Agaricus chart on this page
http://botit.botany.wisc.edu/toms_fungi/apr2001.html

Looks like D.
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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
    #19022564 - 10/23/13 10:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well; while OP says no bruising, there does appear to be browning discoloration in the stipe.

Could be worth cutting one in cross section and scraping the edge of a knife blade along the cut surface.


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
    #19022581 - 10/23/13 10:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:shrug:


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: canid]
    #19022614 - 10/23/13 10:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I guess that it doesn't really smell good, and the more I smell these mushies the more I get like  :puke:'

The weird thing is that the bigger mushrooms don't have any distinctly yellow color, but the one smaller specimen does have yellow staining around the edge of the cap.

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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: canid]
    #19022646 - 10/23/13 11:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

What should I be looking for?  The places where I cut through the stipe are very pinkish brown now.


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: brown_jenkin]
    #19022686 - 10/23/13 11:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

In short, you're looking for a brown bruising (or at the very least, a non yellow bruising) Agaricus absent of any harsh chemical smell reminiscent of library paste or copier toner.

Sometimes this smell is hard to detect until you seriously abuse the flesh of the mushroom, and is sometimes concentrated in the stipe. It also sometimes does not come out until you start to cook them.

Pink/brown staining is a good sign.


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: canid]
    #19022730 - 10/23/13 11:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Really good tips canid....I have a hard time with nailing Agaricus down.


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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: ZippyHippyinWA]
    #19022736 - 10/23/13 11:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Almost everybody does.

One more area I need to learn a lot more, but the lazy method often works well enough to fail entirely in motivating me.


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