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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
#19022314 - 10/23/13 10:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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So these are just from an iphone, so there are depth of field and focus issues. I should point out that the pic of the smallest mushroom that wasn't included in the initial ID Request had these cool beads of golden liquid clinging to the annulus ring. Very cool structure.
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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA *DELETED* [Re: brown_jenkin]
#19022335 - 10/23/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Post deleted by xfsketchReason for deletion: Im nuts
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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
#19022343 - 10/23/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Actually im sticking with all or them being Agaricus campestris now that I look more,
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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
#19022402 - 10/23/13 10:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im thinking mor about your finds and I KNOW ive found those before. Might not be campestris but thats the only name I can come up with lol. The ring being bumpy like that I remember i have had this IDed before. but im second guessing. A TI will help u out im gonna quit rambling lol.
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Edited by xfsketch (10/23/13 10:27 PM)
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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: brown_jenkin]
#19022431 - 10/23/13 10:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
brown_jenkin said: So these are just from an iphone, so there are depth of field and focus issues.
And yet they are many times better than the average picture members with the same phone post.
 
I suspect those are A. californicus (admittedly in part because every promising Agaricus I find in this state in grass turns out to be), but that is a guess. How do the bases of the stipes smell when you crush them a little?
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Edited by canid (10/23/13 10:35 PM)
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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
#19022454 - 10/23/13 10:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cool. Thanks for your help, xfsketch (and all y'all). 
Upon further reading in Mushrooms Demystified, Agaricus Campestris seems like a great fit/guess! These mushies are not staining yellow and when ya cut through the stem there is a white cavity that has a different texture then the encircling outer stem tissue.
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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: canid]
#19022487 - 10/23/13 10:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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They do look like californicus Canid http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Agaricus_californicus.html
And YW brown_jenkin! Its a possibility they are californicus like Canid said too
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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: canid]
#19022489 - 10/23/13 10:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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canid. . . what are "stipes?" 
Oh. . .giving the stipes a pinch, the general smell becomes stronger, but doesn't seem any different than how the mushrooms smell generally. I also have terrible sense of smell.
Edited by brown_jenkin (10/23/13 10:40 PM)
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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
#19022496 - 10/23/13 10:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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 Stipe = stem
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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: brown_jenkin]
#19022506 - 10/23/13 10:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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In a muhsroom, the stipe is the https://www.google.com/search?q=stipe

anyway, if there is no yellow staining at all and no amount of any nauseating chemical smell, then that is promising.
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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
#19022512 - 10/23/13 10:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think its cool u did all that research but I think Canid is right since you are in CA. I find those here tho too which seems odd.
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Edited by xfsketch (10/23/13 10:40 PM)
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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
#19022524 - 10/23/13 10:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not nessesarily. I take a pretty simplistic approach to semi-identifying most Agaricus from grass, and it is certainly non-expert.
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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: canid]
#19022530 - 10/23/13 10:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think u do very good bud, im usually guessing wrong then right then wrong again lol I lack consistency.
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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
#19022546 - 10/23/13 10:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Compare to Agaricus chart on this page http://botit.botany.wisc.edu/toms_fungi/apr2001.html
Looks like D. arvensis
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Edited by xfsketch (10/23/13 10:46 PM)
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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
#19022564 - 10/23/13 10:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well; while OP says no bruising, there does appear to be browning discoloration in the stipe.
Could be worth cutting one in cross section and scraping the edge of a knife blade along the cut surface.
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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: xfsketch]
#19022581 - 10/23/13 10:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edited by xfsketch (10/23/13 10:50 PM)
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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: canid]
#19022614 - 10/23/13 10:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I guess that it doesn't really smell good, and the more I smell these mushies the more I get like '
The weird thing is that the bigger mushrooms don't have any distinctly yellow color, but the one smaller specimen does have yellow staining around the edge of the cap.
Thanks for your help everyone!
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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: canid]
#19022646 - 10/23/13 11:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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What should I be looking for? The places where I cut through the stipe are very pinkish brown now.
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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: brown_jenkin]
#19022686 - 10/23/13 11:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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In short, you're looking for a brown bruising (or at the very least, a non yellow bruising) Agaricus absent of any harsh chemical smell reminiscent of library paste or copier toner.
Sometimes this smell is hard to detect until you seriously abuse the flesh of the mushroom, and is sometimes concentrated in the stipe. It also sometimes does not come out until you start to cook them.
Pink/brown staining is a good sign.
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Re: Fruiting in an office park in Hayward, CA [Re: canid]
#19022730 - 10/23/13 11:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Really good tips canid....I have a hard time with nailing Agaricus down.
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