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Re: I think big pharma/industry is great [Re: Yogi1]
    #19020611 - 10/23/13 05:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The 80s and 90s were full of school encouragement to het kids on add medicines and prozac.




Encouragement is not compulsion.  Obviously recent public school.  This doesn't go to support his allegation that the school forced him, does it? 
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This is a fact that siblings can attest to as well as family friends. These people are probably not disinformation agents...




As the step parent of a 28 year old and a 23 year old on meds I am fully aware of that.  They were both fucked without them.
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As for home schooling, its completely impractical period. Especially in higher grades.




More and more people are doing it to get away from the educational failure that is most public education.  How about getting a doctor's order that it is harmful?


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Re: I think big pharma/industry is great [Re: Yogi1]
    #19020638 - 10/23/13 05:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Having kids is a choice, though.  It's not like a stork just randomly drops them off.  If someone isn't in a position to do it right, they shouldn't do it at all.


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Re: I think big pharma/industry is great [Re: Enlil]
    #19020686 - 10/23/13 05:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Shit happens. I'm into my mid 20s but that doesn't mean I couldn't have had a condom fail with a fertile chick. 
The more conservative posters really seem to lack understanding for, shoulda.


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Re: I think big pharma/industry is great [Re: Yogi1]
    #19020703 - 10/23/13 05:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

and theres such thing as plan b and abortion


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Re: I think big pharma/industry is great [Re: Yogi1]
    #19020779 - 10/23/13 06:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Shit happens. I'm into my mid 20s but that doesn't mean I couldn't have had a condom fail with a fertile chick. 
The more conservative posters really seem to lack understanding for, shoulda.



There's always abstinence.


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Re: I think big pharma/industry is great [Re: Enlil]
    #19020787 - 10/23/13 06:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

if your going to stick your penis inside someone (or have them stick their penis inside of you) you should be willing to accept possible consequences, whether having a kid or having backup in case either party becomes pregnant. Either plan B or abortion


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Re: I think big pharma/industry is great [Re: psyconaught]
    #19020846 - 10/23/13 06:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That's why I got snipped at age 24.


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Re: I think big pharma/industry is great [Re: Enlil]
    #19020885 - 10/23/13 06:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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That's why I got snipped at age 24.




Could have knocked a chick up at 15 with a broken condom. Right now you would be judging that person...


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Re: I think big pharma/industry is great [Re: Yogi1]
    #19020929 - 10/23/13 06:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

We have abortion in this country.  Parenthood, for women, is 100% by choice.  Men can also always get snipped.  15 year-olds should not be fucking.


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Re: I think big pharma/industry is great [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19020962 - 10/23/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Shoulda woulda. Might as well kill all morons, and young people are morons. :ohwell:


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Re: I think big pharma/industry is great [Re: Yogi1]
    #19021021 - 10/23/13 06:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Shoulda woulda. Might as well kill all morons, and young people are morons. :ohwell:



What does this have to do with the fact that parenthood is a choice in this country?


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Re: I think big pharma/industry is great [Re: Yogi1]
    #19021030 - 10/23/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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That's why I got snipped at age 24.




Could have knocked a chick up at 15 with a broken condom. Right now you would be judging that person...



Yup...I would be thinking that he/she was one stupid 15 year old.

Similarly, if a 15 year old shoots someone, I'd judge them, too...

People are responsible for their actions, and their actions say a lot about their character.


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Re: I think big pharma/industry is great [Re: Enlil]
    #19021130 - 10/23/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

How about a 10 year old shooting and murdering someone, or an 8 year old or a 6 year old.

My point is that you are not omniscient, as such you shouldn't judge people. Context is somoewhat important...


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Re: I think big pharma/industry is great [Re: Yogi1]
    #19021149 - 10/23/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Everybody judges everybody.  What the fuck are you talking about?


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Re: I think big pharma/industry is great [Re: Yogi1]
    #19021169 - 10/23/13 07:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I don't need to be omniscient to recognize that I have some knowledge.  A 6 year old can't commit murder, so that's just nonsense.

A 15 year old is plenty old enough to understand that he shouldn't be having sex, and that there are consequences if he chooses to ignore that fact.  Ignoring those consequences is what makes him stupid.

"shit happens" is the mantra of all of the victims in the world.  It's not their fault...shit happens.  The world, or god, or society, or dumb luck is to blame for all the "shit" that "happens."

Getting pregnant or getting someone pregnant doesn't just happen.  It requires someone to actively make it happen.  So a 15 year old who gets a woman pregnant is either stupid for willfully ignoring the risks or stupid because he didn't know the risks...either way, he's stupid.


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Re: I think big pharma/industry is great [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19021180 - 10/23/13 07:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Talking about judging people without any real understanding of their situation. Something you're excellent at.


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Re: I think big pharma/industry is great [Re: Yogi1]
    #19021197 - 10/23/13 07:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Talking about judging people without any real understanding of their situation. Something you're excellent at.



besides rape what situation can you give where a 15 year old getting pregnant/getting someone else pregnant is not completely their responsibility?


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Re: I think big pharma/industry is great [Re: Yogi1]
    #19021202 - 10/23/13 07:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Their "situation?"  What situation could possibly make it less stupid to be having sex at 15 when you've no way to support a child?  Maybe the kid needs to have sex for medical reasons? 

I don't need to know someone's situation to judge them.  I only need the relevant facts.  Talking about someone's "situation" sounds an awful lot like talking about his/her excuses for his/her piss poor behavior.


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Re: I think big pharma/industry is great [Re: Yogi1]
    #19021208 - 10/23/13 07:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Talking about judging people without any real understanding of their situation. Something you're excellent at.



I judge behavior, which is all we can ever know about another person.


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Re: I think big pharma/industry is great [Re: Enlil]
    #19021237 - 10/23/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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  A 6 year old can't commit murder, so that's just nonsense.





You're telling me that between the 6 and 15 year olds you know exactly their maturity level, undiagnosed or diagnosed psychology, situation etc...

You really must be special.


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