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anxiolytic
    #19020886 - 10/23/13 06:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

What are the best ones? Natural or otherwise.

I've hard Kava Kava, Passion Flower, Valerian root. Has anybody tried these, are they really like benzos at all?

And i'm measuring best by both based on effectiveness and health.


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Re: anxiolytic [Re: LysergicX7]
    #19021072 - 10/23/13 06:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Closest one for me was passionflower. I got a liquid extract from my work and actually made a difference


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Re: anxiolytic [Re: Mescalean]
    #19021444 - 10/23/13 07:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Legit Kava root prepared in the traditional way can knock you on your ass. Can also be mildly psychedelic. But can raise liver enzymes and can have negative impacts on health if abused. Passionflower is.....ok. Im curious to the person above me what brand do you buy?


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Re: anxiolytic [Re: Almond Flour]
    #19021490 - 10/23/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

TO answer your question though, Kava is what you want. I reccomend Nakamal at Home kava. They have a variety of strains you can try. Get some mesh bags and soak a small handfull in water. Drink on an empty stomach and its pretty stop on to a benzodiazapine. Dont buy tinqtures or any of that shit. Not buy some tea and brew it hot.

Get legit powdered Kava root

Get a stainer mesh bag

Kneed in cold water

Drink on an empty stomach

I promise its what you are looking for


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Re: anxiolytic [Re: Almond Flour]
    #19023251 - 10/24/13 01:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I got it for free from a gnc vendor since i work there. Just gnc liquid drops. Keep in mind I did not follow the doseinf directions an doubled up to get desired effects. The liquid tasted "figgy"

I cant find kava anywhere out here


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Re: anxiolytic [Re: Mescalean]
    #19023445 - 10/24/13 03:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Nootropic drugs like piracetam, aniracetam and noopept seem to have an anxiolytic effect.

Evidence that piracetam has an anxiolytic effect


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Re: anxiolytic [Re: Mescalean]
    #19025022 - 10/24/13 11:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Mescalean said:
I got it for free from a gnc vendor since i work there. Just gnc liquid drops. Keep in mind I did not follow the doseinf directions an doubled up to get desired effects. The liquid tasted "figgy"

I cant find kava anywhere out here




Go online and order it. Its not that hard, and liver failure has been reported from past extract companies who skimp out on the root material and use the whole plant to cut costs. They probably have fixed it, but not something I would mess with. If you are 18, you should have a debt card. Order online


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Re: anxiolytic [Re: Almond Flour]
    #19025559 - 10/24/13 01:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It's just my subjective experience so your mileage may vary, but 1000+ mg of EPA a day really made things much smoother for me. Much.

You need Omega 3 pills, do the math on the EPA content (it's usually on the box), and you're looking at 3-6 or more pills daily, depending on what you buy. Takes about a week to see results, but if it works for you as it does for me, it's definitely worth it. 1000 mg is the bare minimum, don't go lower than that if you actually want to feel results.

No side effects or anything, fish oil is very good for you.

Here's a bit of a study. It says it improved depression only in patients without anxiety disorders, but from what I've seen personally I beg to differ. There's just a much smoother mental space and confidence about the future, a lot less worry and ruminating, although the actual external conditions haven't changed much. That to me = less anxiety so it does help.


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Re: anxiolytic [Re: Almond Flour]
    #19025800 - 10/24/13 01:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Almond Flour said:
TO answer your question though, Kava is what you want. I reccomend Nakamal at Home kava. They have a variety of strains you can try. Get some mesh bags and soak a small handfull in water. Drink on an empty stomach and its pretty stop on to a benzodiazapine. Dont buy tinqtures or any of that shit. Not buy some tea and brew it hot.

Get legit powdered Kava root

Get a stainer mesh bag

Kneed in cold water

Drink on an empty stomach

I promise its what you are looking for




Cool. i bought some Kava root powder that come in capsules that did nothing. I'll look into some other brands.

I've read up on EPA and Omega 3's, got some fish oil and hemp seed oil.

Definitely checking into all this stuff. Never heard of piracetam but sounds pretty appealing especially if it doesn't sedate you.


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I think that in human evolution it has never been as necessary to have this substance LSD. It is just a tool to turn us into what we are supposed to be.”
― Albert Hofmann


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Re: anxiolytic [Re: LysergicX7]
    #19025884 - 10/24/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Almond Flour said:
TO answer your question though, Kava is what you want. I reccomend Nakamal at Home kava. They have a variety of strains you can try. Get some mesh bags and soak a small handfull in water. Drink on an empty stomach and its pretty stop on to a benzodiazapine. Dont buy tinqtures or any of that shit. Not buy some tea and brew it hot.

Get legit powdered Kava root

Get a stainer mesh bag

Kneed in cold water

Drink on an empty stomach

I promise its what you are looking for




Cool. i bought some Kava root powder that come in capsules that did nothing. I'll look into some other brands.

I've read up on EPA and Omega 3's, got some fish oil and hemp seed oil.

Definitely checking into all this stuff. Never heard of piracetam but sounds pretty appealing especially if it doesn't sedate you.



Piracetam is AOK, I must have went through something like a kilo of the stuff over the past years. 2-4 grams if you want to feel it, like for a study session. IMO if you can micro-dose shrooms, it's a very similar effect, even superior and feels easier on the body, doesn't taste like bitter chems.

Also if you drink coffee you might consider switching to Yerba Mate. Still a stimulant but much smoother, and it's quite good for you.

In any case don't start 20 supplements all at once, it's not sustainable and you'll lose interest. Take'em a few at a time, then you'll know what does what and how it feels. Hemp seeds are awesome, so tasty and smoooooth :biggrin:


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