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Re: Muscaria or Flavoconia? [Re: MonkeyJesusFresco]
    #19021779 - 10/23/13 08:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If the desired chemicals are water soluble, then that would remove all water-based preparations from consideration in my situation.

I'm thinking the butter frying method may be the one I go with.

Oh, and rinsing them off won't have any negative effect on the desired chemicals, correct?


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Re: Muscaria or Flavoconia? [Re: trainerr3d]
    #19021783 - 10/23/13 08:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

no, it would be good to give it a quick rinse if there is debris on it.


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Re: Muscaria or Flavoconia? [Re: trainerr3d]
    #19021793 - 10/23/13 08:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

'desired' chemicals...hmm, welp, they're legal for a reason!
:goodluckwiththat2:


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Re: Muscaria or Flavoconia? [Re: jet li]
    #19021800 - 10/23/13 08:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Just taking every step in this with caution as I don't want to ruin the whole batch.


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Re: Muscaria or Flavoconia? [Re: trainerr3d]
    #19021812 - 10/23/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Many will agree that the best you could do is cook out the toxins, because they are a good edible, but the "Desirable" compounds is an ongoing debate. Some like but most don't.


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Re: Muscaria or Flavoconia? [Re: jet li]
    #19021824 - 10/23/13 08:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I, honestly, have never had a negative experience with anything other than Spice.

In fact, I find psychoactives to be medicinal to me while many people I know find them to be frightening.


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Re: Muscaria or Flavoconia? [Re: trainerr3d]
    #19021853 - 10/23/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

ibotenic acid / muscimol is different than the alkaloids you find in Psilocybian mushrooms.


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Re: Muscaria or Flavoconia? [Re: jet li]
    #19021885 - 10/23/13 08:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

also, save your pee after eat'n 'em...FREE "TRIP"


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Re: Muscaria or Flavoconia? [Re: Ganzig]
    #19021914 - 10/23/13 09:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Ganzig said:
They taste really nice.



:whathesaid:

Oh and what art said too! He sent a link to me of a guy eating amanita just for the flavor. Preparing them like art mentioned here :wink:


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Re: Muscaria or Flavoconia? [Re: MonkeyJesusFresco]
    #19021924 - 10/23/13 09:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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also, save your pee after eat'n 'em...FREE "TRIP"



Ive never had the balls to do this nor do o think I will ever lmao! I believ it to be 100% true tho! Water into wine baby!


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Re: Muscaria or Flavoconia? [Re: xfsketch]
    #19021946 - 10/23/13 09:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Water into wine baby!




:rofl2:

hey OP! If you're dead set on eat'n 'em, save and drink your pee for trip #2 and dooo a trip report!

I hear the pee-trips are suppose to be much "cleaner"


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Re: Muscaria or Flavoconia? [Re: xfsketch]
    #19021959 - 10/23/13 09:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Muscimol connects to many areas of your brain because it connects to GABA receptors which occur in several areas throughout your brain.  Just know that you can completely be taken over by too much of it, and lose complete control of yourself.


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Re: Muscaria or Flavoconia? [Re: jet li]
    #19021978 - 10/23/13 09:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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Re: Muscaria or Flavoconia? [Re: MonkeyJesusFresco]
    #19026165 - 10/24/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I have a babysitter prepared, eight of them washed up and nearly prepared.

I know they aren't like psilocybes, but I've always had a curiosity to Muscaria.

And I don't think I'll be drinking my own urine, I'm not Bear Grylls. xD

But I'm thinking of just frying them up properly to keep the psychoactive effects and then putting them into a Teriyaki bowl.
That seems to be the only thing in my house that'd actually go nicely with this, since I lack a coffee grinder to powder it with for the preparation of tea or masking it in yogurt or any other possible foods.

I've been researching the effects of these for a while now, I've just never looked into actually preparing them since I haven't found them until I moved to the coast just recently.

I find this to already be a pretty good spiritual experience and I haven't even consumed them yet.
Just letting them grow on my property and finding them and picking them and washing them gives off a mystical feeling.

I believe finding and preparing them myself will just enhance the experience, as I'll be more connected to them than if I just bought them off a dealer and took them for the high.

I plan to weigh them out and dose myself properly, if not a little under the normal starting dose at first.

Every step necessary will be taken with caution. Especially from this point on, now that they're practically ready for the cooking process.

Thank you to everyone who responded with their opinions and advice, negative or positive!


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Re: Muscaria or Flavoconia? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19026786 - 10/24/13 04:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I think they are best fried at high temperature in butter until golden brown, and then add a bit of salt and pepper.

Might be good with teriyaki.







I add shallots to mine... mmmmmm.

OP... I wouldn't ever suggest eating them raw, although some do. That can lead to very unpleasant side effects. Drying isn't worth the time or effort. If you want to preserve them, fry or sautee, or dip in spirits, then freeze. If you don't preserve them somehow before freezing, they'll still rot over time in the freezer, or so I've heard.


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Re: Muscaria or Flavoconia? [Re: trainerr3d]
    #19026828 - 10/24/13 05:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I know they aren't like psilocybes, but I've always had a curiosity to Muscaria.

They're not even psychedelics. What they do isn't really a trip in any way most psych users would recognize.

I plan to weigh them out and dose myself properly, if not a little under the normal starting dose at first.

do yourself a favor and start very small. There's no reason why you can't take more tomorrow. They don't agree with everyone, and some people absolutely hate the experience... I feel ok saying this since you won't get "the fear" the same way you would with normal trips. I strongly suggest taking a very small test dose your first time to see if you'll ever want to do it again at all.





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Re: Muscaria or Flavoconia? [Re: happyfunguy]
    #19026911 - 10/24/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, I've never gotten "the fear" with muscaria, what I have gotten is an overwhelming nausea and feeling of shittiness like being seasick and drunk to the point of alcohol poisoning, accompanied by some weak-ass close eyed "visions" that are more like disoriented fever dreams than cool visuals. 

I do agree with Alan on the cooking prep though, you fry them 'til they get a bit of a butter crust and they have a kind of bacon-y umami flavor that is just delicious.  IMO, muscaria are far better for eating than for tripping.  I've got a few in the fridge that I'm going to try parboiling to see if I can get the enjoyment of eating them without the displeasure of their awful trip. :lmafo:


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Re: Muscaria or Flavoconia? [Re: RiparianZoneJunky]
    #19027872 - 10/24/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Eating poisonous mushrooms is not condoned :shrug:

With that said...

Speak of the devil! this morning, I found the biggest patch of these things (a. musc. var. flavivolvata)

along with 1 puny a. jacksonii and 2 beautiful amanita the-white-ones-that-will-kill-yo-assii


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Re: Muscaria or Flavoconia? [Re: MonkeyJesusFresco]
    #19028289 - 10/24/13 08:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Daanng! Death caps eh MonkeyJesusFresco?


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Re: Muscaria or Flavoconia? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19028422 - 10/24/13 09:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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All are Amanita muscaria var. flavivolvata.  There are no other orange to red Amanitas on the west coast.






Is this true about the west coast???

-So there are no Straight Amanita muscaria (var. muscaria)?
...and there are not Amanita muscaria var. guessowii?

This goes against everything I have read about Amanita muscarias and their locals.

maybe i am reading outdated material?

Cant mycology taxonomy just sit still for a bit... all this changing up and shifting around is hard to keep up with :frown:


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