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Torgo2212
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First Grow... So far so good.
#19020203 - 10/23/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey guys,
Just wanted to share my first grow.
Following Shea25's "PF tek done right" http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11585613
Couldn't find half pint wide mouths so using half pint jelly jars.
Took sterilization very seriously. 2 hour steam, still air box, Lysol by the can full.
The jars where the mycelium runs all the way to the bottom are ones I used 0.5 cc instead of 0.25 cc of solution. I think I'll use 0.5cc on all jars next time.


It is day 4 and 7 of my 8 jars show good growth. One shows absolutely no sign of any mycelium.
Thanks to everyone here. This site has a plethora of knowledge.
Will update as I go.
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Re: First Grow... So far so good. [Re: Torgo2212]
#19020258 - 10/23/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Day 4? Nice, it took over a week for me to start seeing growth like those pics. Good luck!
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Re: First Grow... So far so good. [Re: Telumbe Maur]
#19020428 - 10/23/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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4 days? Looking good!
Often the taller half-pints are condemned because the bottom has more problems colonizing (due to gravitational factors), but you look to be in good shape so far.
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Re: First Grow... So far so good. [Re: huxley_hound]
#19020449 - 10/23/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yea people really hate on the tall half pints. I have personally never had any problem. If it becomes a problem get 3.5/4 inch luer lock needles that will fit onto your syringe, I've never had to do this but I read about people doing this(they're usually not shipped sterile but you can sterilize them easy) Those will reach down enough to have the growth starting at the hard to colonize bottom.
Edited by Trusted cuItivator (10/23/13 05:07 PM)
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Re: First Grow... So far so good. [Re: bodhisatta]
#19020464 - 10/23/13 05:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I use them too; given their dimensions you can fit more (jars) in the same (shelf, box) space.
As you smartly point out, in addition to the gravitional factors, you need a sufficiently long needle to properly inoculate. Otherwise, you're just squirting into your protective verm layer, and that's no good.
Edit: Requisite parenthetical clarifications
Edited by huxley_hound (10/23/13 05:06 PM)
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Torgo2212
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Re: First Grow... So far so good. [Re: huxley_hound]
#19073998 - 11/02/13 08:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Update and a question.
Its been about 2 weeks now. 2 jars are 100%, 2 are 95%, 3 are around 80%, and 1 is at 30% (this is the 1 that previously showed no signs of life, it has an extra thick verm layer because I ran short of BRF/verm mix).



No signs of any contaminates in any of them! 
My question is: the mycelium looks like it is slightly pulled away form the glass and there is noticeable condensation on the glass in all jars (you can see it in the pics). doesn't seem to be affecting anything just wondering if its normal?
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Re: First Grow... So far so good. [Re: Torgo2212]
#19074073 - 11/02/13 08:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's normal to see condensation and cake shrinkage. Looks good!
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Re: First Grow... So far so good. [Re: Torgo2212]
#19074078 - 11/02/13 08:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes, shrinking cakes are totally normal. Good job man... quick colonization for the tall-boy jars.
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Torgo2212
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Quote:
illumi.naughty87 said: Yes, shrinking cakes are totally normal. Good job man... quick colonization for the tall-boy jars.
Yeah I was surprised too. I was ready to wait a month for full colonization. glad it didn't take that.
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Re: First Grow... So far so good. [Re: Torgo2212]
#19074132 - 11/02/13 08:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Damn I don't think I've ever seen tall half pints colonize that quickly. Nice work 
Did you load the substrate in the jars really loose?
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Re: First Grow... So far so good. [Re: Stromrider]
#19074144 - 11/02/13 09:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Stromrider said: Damn I don't think I've ever seen tall half pints colonize that quickly. Nice work 
Did you load the substrate in the jars really loose?
Yes very loose. I filled them up and just tapped the side of the jar to remove large air pockets.
I think using .5cc of solution per hole helped a lot (those jars colonized the fastest.
When inoculating I was able to see the solution streak down the side almost all the way to the bottom.
But I was worried about adding to much moisture, so I did .25cc's in the others.
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Re: First Grow... So far so good. [Re: Torgo2212]
#19099660 - 11/07/13 10:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dunked the first two cakes yesterday.
Setting up my shotgun FC right now.
Questions about perlite:
How long can it be used before needing to be re-wetted? Some cakes ready to go in while others not even at 100% colonization yet.
Is misting enough to keep it hydrated, extra mist the perlite itself when it gets light, or do you just completely re-wet when it gets light?
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Re: First Grow... So far so good. [Re: Torgo2212]
#19099666 - 11/07/13 10:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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When you mist the cakes, the perlite will also get wet....
Since you should be misting more than 2 times a day, the perlite should stay moist.
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Re: First Grow... So far so good. [Re: PussyFart]
#19099700 - 11/07/13 10:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for the quick reply.
Here is a pic of my shotgun FC.

I did not realize how heavy it the perlite would get when wet.
The cakes go in tonight. Thanks for all the help everyone.
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Re: First Grow... So far so good. [Re: Torgo2212]
#19099734 - 11/07/13 10:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Are you sure you used enough perlite in your fc?
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Re: First Grow... So far so good. [Re: PussyFart]
#19100107 - 11/07/13 11:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Gotta leave room for the mushies.
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Re: First Grow... So far so good. [Re: Torgo2212]
#19100120 - 11/07/13 11:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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If it were me, I'd remove half of the perlite then drill a *few* more holes halfway between the existing ones and the top of the perlite.
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Re: First Grow... So far so good. [Re: Peachette]
#19100128 - 11/07/13 11:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Peachette said: If it were me, I'd remove half of the perlite then drill a *few* more holes halfway between the existing ones and the top of the perlite.
Remove half the perlite yes, but it looks like his holes are spot on.
You want 1/4" holes every 2" on all 6 sides in a grid pattern.
Looks like he has that.
You want 4-5" of perlite...looks like he has enough for 2 tubs.
When you have perlite that fine that thick, it compacts itself, which negates the fact that it's there.
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Re: First Grow... So far so good. [Re: PussyFart]
#19100152 - 11/07/13 12:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for the correction. I'm on someone else's cell phone and I can't see the pic that well. But yes don't take my advice on more holes, sorry.
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