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Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? * 1
    #19017420 - 10/23/13 02:14 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Or we fucked?


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: cez]
    #19017435 - 10/23/13 02:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The republicans have tried to repeal it 41+ times now, and at least one of those times it went to the supreme court where it was ruled constitutional. If one of the repeals ever makes it to Obama's desk, he's going to veto it. Obamacare is good, and it's not going any where! :smile:


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: 1ve5w4hu]
    #19017456 - 10/23/13 02:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I voted for Obama....:blush:


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: cez]
    #19018866 - 10/23/13 11:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Or we fucked?




Maybe you think you're fucked but it changes almost nothing for me.  I'll bet there hasn't been a day in the last 100 years when people all over this land haven't been announcing that we're fucked.  After awhile you just get on with your life. :nicesmile:


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: 1ve5w4hu]
    #19019378 - 10/23/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The republicans have tried to repeal it 41+ times now, and at least one of those times it went to the supreme court where it was ruled constitutional. If one of the repeals ever makes it to Obama's desk, he's going to veto it. Obamacare is good, and it's not going any where! :smile:




You forgot the 2012 elections the ACA was one of the lead issues and the Dems won all the way around. They added 7 in the House, added 2 in the Senate and POTUS.

ACA Law of they Land until the Pubs can get their heads out their asses, but by then it will be too late.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: sweeper54] * 1
    #19019958 - 10/23/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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1ve5w4hu said:
The republicans have tried to repeal it 41+ times now, and at least one of those times it went to the supreme court where it was ruled constitutional. If one of the repeals ever makes it to Obama's desk, he's going to veto it. Obamacare is good, and it's not going any where! :smile:




You forgot the 2012 elections the ACA was one of the lead issues and the Dems won all the way around. They added 7 in the House, added 2 in the Senate and POTUS.

ACA Law of they Land until the Pubs can get their heads out their asses, but by then it will be too late.



Your forgetting 2010 when Obamacare was one of the lead issues and the Republicans took the House back.  Now that it is revealed to be the absolute clusterfuck the Republicans said it would be we'll see what happens in 2014.

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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: Icelander]
    #19019983 - 10/23/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Or we fucked?




Maybe you think you're fucked but it changes almost nothing for me.




I have been notified that my carrier will no longer be providing coverage for my class, true single payer as in I singly pay for my own shit.  I also just found out that not one of the companies offering coverage under Obamacare in NY has any provisions for out of network doctors except in emergencies.  Not one.  They pay no part if you don't use one of their shitty quacks.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19020513 - 10/23/13 05:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Did you sign up yet?




Nope. I have the VA and if its good enough for MA its got to be good enough for the Feds.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: sweeper54] * 2
    #19020561 - 10/23/13 05:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You have the VA?  The worst health care system in the country?:rofl2:

If you want MA health care move to MA. Did you know that the voters of MA elected Scott Walker precisely to stop Obamacare from being passed and that the Dems violated the Senate rules and perjured themselves to make it eligible for reconciliation?  Do you even know what that means?


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19020918 - 10/23/13 06:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The worst health care system in the country?




And you know this HOW?

I have dealt with the VA since '86 and found it to be very good, with zero complaints and that's in four different distircts. I don't care what you've heard or read.

Yes Zap I watched the whole process, and every asshole has an option of why the ACA is the law of the land.

Did YOU know Scott got unelected also?


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: sweeper54] * 1
    #19021001 - 10/23/13 06:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The worst health care system in the country?




And you know this HOW?

I have dealt with the VA since '86 and found it to be very good, with zero complaints and that's in four different distircts. I don't care what you've heard or read.




Lucky for you you have been healthy.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/04/AR2007030401394.html
http://veterans.house.gov/editorials/vets-deserve-better-than-vas-practice-of-rewarding-failure
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Yes Zap I watched the whole process, and every asshole has an option of why the ACA is the law of the land.

Did YOU know Scott got unelected also?



I do but Obamacare wasn't an issue by then.  They went back to being the tried and true commie morons they have been for decades.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: sweeper54] * 2
    #19021014 - 10/23/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Did you sign up yet?




Nope. I have the VA and if its good enough for MA its got to be good enough for the Feds.




Not for nothing but if you have the VA why the fuck are you babbling about what the government is cramming down everybody else's throat.  Seems to me it should be none of your business since you're already on the taxpayer dime.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19021143 - 10/23/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: cez]
    #19021225 - 10/23/13 07:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Not for nothing but if you have the VA why the fuck are you babbling about what the government is cramming down everybody else's throat.  Seems to me it should be none of your business since you're already on the taxpayer dime.




Dude, I paid for that dime and earned every penny of it.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: sweeper54]
    #19021409 - 10/23/13 07:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Not for nothing but if you have the VA why the fuck are you babbling about what the government is cramming down everybody else's throat.  Seems to me it should be none of your business since you're already on the taxpayer dime.




Dude, I paid for that dime and earned every penny of it.




That was the deal so you get it.  You didn't read me bitching about it, did you?  You get the GI bill, too.  You don't see me bitching about that, either.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19023509 - 10/24/13 03:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Or we fucked?




Maybe you think you're fucked but it changes almost nothing for me.




I have been notified that my carrier will no longer be providing coverage for my class, true single payer as in I singly pay for my own shit.  I also just found out that not one of the companies offering coverage under Obamacare in NY has any provisions for out of network doctors except in emergencies.  Not one.  They pay no part if you don't use one of their shitty quacks.





That doesn't effect me. It effects you. :shrug:


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: Icelander]
    #19027077 - 10/24/13 06:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, I know.  Which is why I don't give a fuck what you think.  You do realize that you are an extreme outlier, right?  You are utterly irrelevant to the discussion since you have no skin in the game.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19029170 - 10/25/13 12:26 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The only chance there is for a repeal of obamacare is if the system works out very well for the vast majority of people and there is a consequent lessening of national anxiety over the mere thought of a single-payer system, followed by installation of said system.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19030179 - 10/25/13 09:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Yes, I know.  Which is why I don't give a fuck what you think.  You do realize that you are an extreme outlier, right?  You are utterly irrelevant to the discussion since you have no skin in the game.





Hows that, I have to purchase new insurance just like you? And if you don't give a fuck what I think why did you reply to me?

I'm not thrilled about the prospect of searching for new health care but over all in the scheme of things it's a pretty small blip on the radar.  I'm not going to go broke no matter what.  Life is pretty good generally and pretty easy compared to much of the rest of humanity.  Tomorrow there will be some more nonsense going on no matter what happens with all this.  :shrug:


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: Icelander]
    #19031365 - 10/25/13 02:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You have no children to give a fuck about being ruined by socialist losers after you are dead.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19031686 - 10/25/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That's true.  I'm glad.  But with having me for a parent that would have been the least of their problems.  I would have been a lousy parent. :satansmoking:


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: Icelander]
    #19031721 - 10/25/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

This is a man who has recognized his limitations and acted accordingly.:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19032272 - 10/25/13 05:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Win/win. :satansmoking:


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: Icelander] * 1
    #19053557 - 10/29/13 06:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Obumblecare was a gift to the insurance companies, a payback for campaign contributions. Business as usual. Everything he said about it was a lie from it covering everyone to your costs will go down.

O'stumble will go down in history as the most inept, incompetent and wrong headed president in history and he has a lot of competition.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #19054036 - 10/29/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Obumblecare was a gift to the insurance companies, a payback for campaign contributions. Business as usual.




And Medicare part D was written by??????

That would be "all of the above"  And the roll out for that was JUST as Fucked up as the ACA only the Dems help to make that work unlike the pubs with the ACA.

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O'stumble will go down in history as the most inept, incompetent and wrong headed president in history and he has a lot of competition.




He'll still be more popular then that piece of shit lil'bush.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #19056356 - 10/30/13 06:14 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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O'stumble will go down in history as the most inept, incompetent and wrong headed president in history and he has a lot of competition.





As much as I dislike Obama I'm pretty sure you are wrong about that. 

Just because you dislike him hardly makes him the worst.  Live long enough and you'll see.
http://civilliberty.about.com/od/historyprofiles/tp/Worst-Presidents-Ever.htm


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: Icelander]
    #19056464 - 10/30/13 07:27 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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O'stumble will go down in history as the most inept, incompetent and wrong headed president in history and he has a lot of competition.




And b_boy just like you and your "384 examples of Obama lying", I didn't read all of lil'bushes resume.


George W. Bush's Resume




George W. Bush (Dubya)
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Ave., NW
Washington, D.C. 20500

Past Work Experience

Ran for congress and lost.
Produced a Hollywood slasher B movie.
Bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas; company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.
Bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money. Biggest move: Traded Sammy Sosa to the Chicago White Sox.
With father's help (and his name) was elected Governor of Texas.
Accomplishments in Previous Positions

Changed pollution laws for power and oil companies and made Texas the most polluted state in the Union.

Replaced Los Angeles with Houston as the most smog-ridden city in America. Cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas government to the tune of billions in borrowed money.

Set record for most executions by any governor in American history. 

Became president after losing the popular vote by over 500,000 votes, with the help of my father's appointments to the Supreme Court.

Accomplishments As President

Attacked and took over two countries.
Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury.
Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history.
Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.
Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.
First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.
First president in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.
First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in U.S. history.
After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history.
Set the record for most campaign fundraising trips than any other president in U.S. history.
In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job.
Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in U.S. history.
Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in U.S. history.
Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television.
Signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any president in U.S. history.
Presided over the biggest energy crises in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.
Presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.
Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.
Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.
Dissolved more international treaties than any president in U.S. history.
My presidency is the most secretive and unaccountable of any in U.S. history.
Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history (the 'poorest' multimillionaire, Condoleezza Rice, has an Exxon oil tanker named after her).
First president in U.S. history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously go bankrupt.
Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in any country in the history of the world.
First president in U.S. history to order a U.S. attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation.
Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.
Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in U.S. history.
First president in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the human rights commission.
First president in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the elections monitoring board.
Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in U.S. history.
Rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.
Withdrew from the World Court of Law.
Refused to allow inspectors access to U.S. prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.
First president in U.S. history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. elections).
All-time U.S. (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.
My biggest lifetime campaign contributor presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).
Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in U.S. history.
First president in U.S. history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community.
First president to run and hide when the U.S. came under attack (and then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)
First U.S. president to establish a secret shadow government.
Took the biggest world sympathy for the U.S. after 9/11, and in less than a year made the U.S. the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in U.S. and world history).
With a policy of 'disengagement' created the most hostile Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.
Fist U.S. president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.
First U.S. president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the U.S. than their immediate neighbor, North Korea.
Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated U.S. law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts.
Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive.'
Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the United States Capital building. After 18 months I have no leads and zero suspects.
In the 18 months following the 9/11 attacks I have successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States.
Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in U.S. history.
In a little over two years created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided the U.S. has ever been since the Civil War.
Entered office with the strongest economy in U.S. history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.
Records and References

At least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available)
AWOL from National Guard and deserted the military during a time of war.
Refuse to take drug test or even answer any questions about drug use.
All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my father's library, sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
All minutes of meetings for any public corporation I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.
For personal references please speak to my daddy or uncle James Baker (they can be reached at their offices of the Carlyle Group for war-profiteering.)


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: sweeper54]
    #19056737 - 10/30/13 09:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

This isn't about Bush, (who was  TOOL) this is about the monumental failure called Obama.  Get back on topic and talk about Obama and Obamacare or is it too painful, the truth?  :smirk:


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19056795 - 10/30/13 10:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Not painful at all and when it finally gets working it will help millions of people whether they want it to or not.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: sweeper54]
    #19056827 - 10/30/13 10:14 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Not painful at all and when it finally gets working it will help millions of people whether they want it to or not.



fun fact. more people have lost health coverage that have gained health coverage under the ACA. And across the board average premiums are going up by sometimes 100-200 percent.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: psyconaught]
    #19056947 - 10/30/13 10:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Fun Fact: People lost their insurance because it was substandard and the insurance companies were ripping them off.


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    #19056972 - 10/30/13 10:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Fun Fact: People lost their insurance because it was substandard and the insurance companies were ripping them off.



Fun fact those people that lost their insurance get a worse plan that costs more now

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    #19057058 - 10/30/13 11:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

this is priceless gotta watch this Sebelius won't answer if she would sign up for Obamacare. Says off mic " Don't do this to me".



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    #19057184 - 10/30/13 11:51 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

From what I've read the NHS works well for us here in the UK at considerably less than a third of the cost of your healthcare. There are many other countries who are even more efficient in providing nationalised healthcare. Most people, even the very well off, are extremely happy with it.

I don't get why you guys seem to be having such a problem with it. I'm sure it's difficult to implement at first but what's the problem with it overall? Seems to me you should be looking at other countries and imitating those systems that seem to work better.


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    #19057200 - 10/30/13 11:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

well our country is forcing people to buy something that costs a lot more than what they are happy with right now. Would you like to be told you have to buy something or else pay a fine?. Most of us Americans don't want to be like European countries. How long do you have to wait for a dr. appointment?


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    #19057212 - 10/30/13 11:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Same day, or next day if not an emergency. :shrug:

It might be more expensive for now but obviously it can be done much cheaper and I'd imagine that'd be what you'd want to work toward.


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    #19057229 - 10/30/13 11:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Actually it will just increase in costs over the years. I know it is easy for someone not from america to think we should want this garbage. I mean why should people be forced to buy shit they don't want? People in their 60's are being forced to buy plans that cover them for maternity issues.:facepalm:

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    #19057265 - 10/30/13 12:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I guess but (looking it up) it costs an average of £277 per person per year. Probably a little more if you don't count people who don't pay taxes. Still peanuts so I don't care. And who the hell doesn't want healthcare? Certainly no one who lives here I don't think.


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    #19057276 - 10/30/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

not saying people don't want healthcare, i am saying why should we be FORCED to buy exactly what the government wants? I mean why can't WE choose what we want covered? and were you forced to buy it or face a fine?


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    #19057312 - 10/30/13 12:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It's part of my taxes so I can't really not pay it.

Socialized systems seem to work better for healthcare. I don't consider myself a socialist but if it works much better, which in this instance it seems to then I don't have a problem with forcing people to pay it, seeing as it costs almost nothing anyway and helps those who need it.

You are forced to pay all kinds of other taxes (such as defense budgets etc.) so why not this one?


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    #19057346 - 10/30/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

This one gives you shity coverage in return, thats the difference.

What costs almost nothing? Not Obamacare, hell kids in college are seeing their rates double. Fair? We were also told if we liked our current policy we could keep it. Just a lie. And the website they set up doesn't even work :laugh2: 

I mean like i said, i can see the point you have, being born where you were you have never seen the other side i assume. A free market is what's best. But thanks for the debate without all the flaming that others thrive on.


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    #19057421 - 10/30/13 12:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds to me like America needs to take a good long look at why it's health care system is so expensive, socialised or not and whether it is privatization that has made it so expensive now and in the past.

It's funny because my reason tells me privatization ought to make it cheaper, yet that does not seem to be what has happened.


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    #19057430 - 10/30/13 12:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

America needs to do a lot of things. We already give free healthcare to poor people and those that work, but still don't make enough money.

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America needs to do a lot of things. We already give free healthcare to poor people and those that work, but still don't make enough money.





Hmm, I didn't even know that. How funny, I can see more why it seems unnecessary now.


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    #19057644 - 10/30/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Would you like to be told you have to buy something or else pay a fine?.




YOU'RE PAYING FOR IT NOW! Every time someone goes to ER and has no insurance you get to pay for it. Rates may be high now but they will come down.

Baring that, I really don't care my insurance is now paid for.


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I mean why should people be forced to buy shit they don't want?




You cons are so worried about entitlement payments to the old and the poor but you can't see that we have the highest insurance payment BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY UNINSURED!


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    #19057664 - 10/30/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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This one gives you shity coverage in return, thats the difference.

What costs almost nothing? Not Obamacare, hell kids in college are seeing their rates double. Fair? We were also told if we liked our current policy we could keep it. Just a lie. And the website they set up doesn't even work :laugh2: 

I mean like i said, i can see the point you have, being born where you were you have never seen the other side i assume. A free market is what's best. But thanks for the debate without all the flaming that others thrive on.




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    #19057697 - 10/30/13 01:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The true blue kool aid drinking obama-ites can't argue with the fact obummer is fucked up so they fall back on their argument that maybe bush was worse. Bush was a known moron but even he didn't screw things up as much as obuma. Even if he did, saying someone else was worse is feeble praise at best and a backhanded admission of failure at worst.

I just read in the liberal media that many people are seeing their insurance policies cancelled and the alternative is going to cost more. What was that lie, "you can keep your present coverage and it will cost less"? Plus companies are laying off full time workers and hiring part timers so they can dodge obumercare. Congress exempted itself from having to get it, tells you what they really think of it.

He had 3 years to prepare for the roll out of the web site and it was handled so badly they are going to have to tear down the site and start over from scratch. Unvetted people off the street are being given access to personal and confidential information like ss numbers and so on. If that isn't incompetent, i don't know what is. And don't fall back on "bush was just as bad" Wait until the full effect of obumercare hits and see them frantically trying to backpeddle on the issue. I would not be surprised if they blamed it on the gop. Or maybe bush.


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    #19057716 - 10/30/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Would you like to be told you have to buy something or else pay a fine?.




YOU'RE PAYING FOR IT NOW! Every time someone goes to ER and has no insurance you get to pay for it. Rates may be high now but they will come down.

Baring that, I really don't care my insurance is now paid for.




"Rates may be high now but they will come down."

How are rates going to come down if they never eliminated medical tort cases?

How are rates going to come down if you accept pre-existing conditions?

How are rates going to come down if you don't change the way they practice medicine on half dead patients?

When you still have "for profit" companies and don't create tort reform, costs will not come down.  The only way to get costs down is a universal care system, Obama Care is not a socialist plan.


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This one gives you shity coverage in return, thats the difference.

What costs almost nothing? Not Obamacare, hell kids in college are seeing their rates double. Fair? We were also told if we liked our current policy we could keep it. Just a lie. And the website they set up doesn't even work :laugh2: 

I mean like i said, i can see the point you have, being born where you were you have never seen the other side i assume. A free market is what's best. But thanks for the debate without all the flaming that others thrive on.




You have no idea what you're talking about. Everything you said in this is BS.



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    #19057809 - 10/30/13 02:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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How are rates going to come down if they never eliminated medical tort cases?




Uninsured freeloaders will have to pay there way. More people in the program.


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prove me wrong  ot stfu i can not bring myself to your stupidity level anymore, you prove time after time you are just an uneducated troll. move along





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How are rates going to come down if they never eliminated medical tort cases?




Uninsured freeloaders will have to pay there way. More people in the program.




So the uninsured peasants are going to hold up the system up?  LOL, that's a good one. :smilingpuppy:


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No uninsured people are going to have to have insurance :bigswang:


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    #19058590 - 10/30/13 04:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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O'stumble will go down in history as the most inept, incompetent and wrong headed president in history and he has a lot of competition.





As much as I dislike Obama I'm pretty sure you are wrong about that. 

Just because you dislike him hardly makes him the worst.  Live long enough and you'll see.
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    #19058608 - 10/30/13 04:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Not painful at all and when it finally gets working it will help millions of people whether they want it to or not.




What happened to the freedom to choose what is in your own interest?.  This is the fascism of the liberal mind writ large.  I'm being totally fucked by this.  My insurance is being dropped, no Obamacare provider in my state makes any payments at all to out of network doctors and I have to pay for a whole bunch of coverage for shit I do not want.  I have no idea if my payments are going to go up because I can't use the site because it is completely cornholed.


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Would you like to be told you have to buy something or else pay a fine?.




YOU'RE PAYING FOR IT NOW! Every time someone goes to ER and has no insurance you get to pay for it. Rates may be high now but they will come down.

Baring that, I really don't care my insurance is now paid for.




How do you figure that?  We will still have to pay for the asshole losers only now there will be more of them and we will have to pay for more of their nonsense beyond emergencies.  Your insurance is now paid for by who?  Are you on Medicaid or Mommyaid.  What are you gonna do when your 27?


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What happened to the freedom to choose what is in your own interest?. 




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So Zap when you had insurance you didn't mind paying higher rates to cover the people that had no insurance?

I doubt it, unless of course you were ignorant of it.


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What happened to the freedom to choose what is in your own interest?. 




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Those are no choices I would select.  I don't want maternal coverage. I don't want mental health coverage.  I don't want rehab coverage.  I don't want routine doctor visit coverage.  I don't want doctor restrictions.  If my doctor isn't in the network I want the network to pay what they would pay a doctor in the network.  I don't give two shits about HMO coverage.  Where is my choice, Benito?
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So Zap when you had insurance you didn't mind paying higher rates to cover the people that had no insurance?




Aside from the fact that not everybody who doesn't have insurance fails to pay their bills, yeah, it frosted my ass.  How has that changed?  I still have to pay for all the fucking bums.  They aren't paying.
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I doubt it, unless of course you were ignorant of it.




Ignorance is thine.  Answer the question. 

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    #19058914 - 10/30/13 05:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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No uninsured people are going to have to have insurance :bigswang:




No they are not, if you DON'T buy an insurance policy, they WON"T have insurance.

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This is great and it leaves the pub in the shit'ah

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PASCRELL(D): Are you serious what you just said? Are you really serious? After what we’ve gone through and what we’ve gone through in the last three and a half years? Have you — you can sit there and say, that you had a legitimate alternative after these years? We’ve gone through 44 votes, 48 votes now, of you trying to dismantle the legislation. You call that cooperation? I don’t!


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    #19059616 - 10/30/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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This is great and it leaves the pub in the shit'ah

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/10/29/2853991/democratic-congressman-blows-gop-obamacare-hearing/


GRIFFIN(R): You asked a question and I’m going to answer it. It’s a false choice to say it’s Obamacare or nothing. There are numerous proposals including one that I’m a co-sponsor of…
PASCRELL(D): Are you serious what you just said? Are you really serious? After what we’ve gone through and what we’ve gone through in the last three and a half years? Have you — you can sit there and say, that you had a legitimate alternative after these years? We’ve gone through 44 votes, 48 votes now, of you trying to dismantle the legislation. You call that cooperation? I don’t!



It does?  How so?  The legitimate alternative is to scarp the piece of shit.  Money shot.

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    #19062844 - 10/31/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

http://speakout-now.org/obamacare-or-corporate-care-the-writing-of-the-affordable-care-act/

"health care industry, which spent over $380 million to support the ACA"

"ACA was designed to write the for-profit health care system into law, increase corporate profits.."

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Obummer sheds crocodile tears for the poor but works hard to give even more money to the richest of the rich. He is the enemy of the common man


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http://speakout-now.org/obamacare-or-corporate-care-the-writing-of-the-affordable-care-act/

"health care industry, which spent over $380 million to support the ACA"

"ACA was designed to write the for-profit health care system into law, increase corporate profits.."

This is no socialist program, it's just about profits for who wrote Obama Care, the health care corporate powers.


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    #19064195 - 10/31/13 03:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

O'stumble's credibility is in ruins, he makes the rounds of world capitals with his lame excuses and feeble apologies. Back at home, many scandals await him from benghazi to fast and furious. Meanwhile, the fumbled rollout is giving a farcical air to the already circuslike controversy over aca. He lurches from one scandal to another. The clown prince of the democrat party.

Will the dems running in '16 want his endorsement or will they shun it? Will he finish his term sputtering in ignominy or will he be forced to resign? Stay tuned.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #19064455 - 10/31/13 04:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Will the dems running in '16 want his endorsement or will they shun it? Will he finish his term sputtering in ignominy or will he be forced to resign? Stay tuned.




You mean like lil'bush in '08

Forced to resign over what?


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    #19065962 - 10/31/13 08:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

>Forced to resign over what?

Take your pick

Benghazi
fast and furious
irs scandal
aca scandal
warrantless spying on usa citizens
spying on our allies
spying on associated press
GSA spending on orgies
Attacking libya without congressional authorization
not enforcing laws on the books
signing statements

The list goes on


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #19066784 - 10/31/13 10:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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>Forced to resign over what?

Take your pick

Benghazi
fast and furious
irs scandal
aca scandal
warrantless spying on usa citizens
spying on our allies
spying on associated press
GSA spending on orgies
Attacking libya without congressional authorization
not enforcing laws on the books
signing statements

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Oh come on now.  Everyone knows O didn't know anything about any of those scandals.  :smirk:


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #19068679 - 11/01/13 06:55 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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>Forced to resign over what?

Take your pick

Benghazi
fast and furious
irs scandal
aca scandal
warrantless spying on usa citizens
spying on our allies
spying on associated press
GSA spending on orgies
Attacking libya without congressional authorization
not enforcing laws on the books
signing statements

The list goes on




And lil'bushies list is longer and some of the things on your list he started.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: sweeper54]
    #19068708 - 11/01/13 07:08 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

But Bush can't be forced to resign. He can't be impeached.

I used to think it would be counter-productive to have Obama gone, because that would leave Joe freaking Biden at the helm. Joe Biden! *shudders*

But the longer the SCOAMF stays in the Oval Office, the more I am convinced that as horrifying as the thought of having Joe fucking Biden as preezie might be - and it is in fact quite horrifying - it would be better than continuing with the current empty suit.



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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: Grapefruit]
    #19069731 - 11/01/13 12:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Sounds to me like America needs to take a good long look at why it's health care system is so expensive, socialised or not and whether it is privatization that has made it so expensive now and in the past.

It's funny because my reason tells me privatization ought to make it cheaper, yet that does not seem to be what has happened.



Many in the U.S. believe we had privatized healthcare which is why we got obamacare. They fail to realize the U.S. spends more per capita then any other country on healthcare so it's far from privatized. You can't reason with these people though.

Typical with government and the U.S. especially if something isn't working the statist answer is it's underfunded, never maybe we should try something else.

Even if state run healthcare is the best option it amazes me liberals in the u.s. keep comparing us to europe. Fine try that stuff on the state level but the U.S. is far to large to expect the same programs to work on that scale.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: Mycjunky] * 1
    #19070365 - 11/01/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The government has never run anything efficiently in its existence from the military to the post office to anything else. It amazes me that people think something that has never worked will somehow, magically work the next time. The level of corruption in govt would not be allowed in private industry because they are focused on making a profit so they have to be efficient.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: cez]
    #19070713 - 11/01/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I signed up today. I am paying $617 a month for a savings of $160 a month and I get free colonoscopies. Yay!


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: AWS]
    #19070740 - 11/01/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

They aren't free.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19070746 - 11/01/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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They aren't free.



He'll pay up the ass for sure.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: AWS]
    #19070758 - 11/01/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You paid 9 grand annually for health insurance before?  How do the deductibles compare?


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #19070840 - 11/01/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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>Forced to resign over what?

Take your pick

Benghazi
fast and furious
irs scandal
aca scandal
warrantless spying on usa citizens
spying on our allies
spying on associated press
GSA spending on orgies
Attacking libya without congressional authorization
not enforcing laws on the books
signing statements

The list goes on




Yes, but he kept his johnson in his pants.  That's what really matters.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #19070886 - 11/01/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The pig in chief wasn't forced to resign for that but Nixon was forced to resign for far fewer lies.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19071985 - 11/01/13 08:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

More good news for this program, why do people think the care isn't going to go down?

"Most of the top hospitals will accept from just one or two companies operating under Obama Care"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-01/top-us-hospitals-are-opting-out-obamacare

"Most top hospitals are simply opting out of Obama care"


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: qman] * 2
    #19074219 - 11/02/13 09:27 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So far, because Obama has granted delays to unions' and larger corporations' employee health, only about 20 million people are getting fucked.  In a year, when the employer and unions have to comply with this idiocy, the screaming is going to reach the halls of Olympus.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: qman]
    #19074740 - 11/02/13 11:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

My hospital is in the top 20 in the us ranked by U.S. News and World report. They take my obamacare.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: AWS]
    #19074877 - 11/02/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

ORLY?  What hospital?  When (and how) did you get Obamacare?  Are you sure you aren't talking about MedicAid?


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19075267 - 11/02/13 01:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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ORLY?  What hospital?  When (and how) did you get Obamacare?  Are you sure you aren't talking about MedicAid?




I got in obamacare by contacting the insurance company directly. I met with the insurance agent yesterday, so I am not officially enrolled until my application is processed.

No, I am not eligible for medicaid, my income is too high for that.
What hospital is none of your business.

Peruse the list here if you desire.

http://health.usnews.com/health-news/best-hospitals/slideshows/the-honor-roll-of-best-hospitals-2013-14/2


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: AWS]
    #19075539 - 11/02/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Not for nothing but why do you have a hospital?  I live just outside NYC.  There are lots of hospitals.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19075586 - 11/02/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I was replying to a post about hospitals. I wanted to make sure that my health care covered the best in my area. It is less than two miles from my house.

I went there for some pulmonary & cardiac tests. I went to the ER when I fucked up my wrist.

They have all kinds of cool stuff. 

It is a whole network of facilities under that hospital.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: AWS]
    #19075591 - 11/02/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Gotcha


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: AWS]
    #19077046 - 11/02/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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ORLY?  What hospital?  When (and how) did you get Obamacare?  Are you sure you aren't talking about MedicAid?




I got in obamacare by contacting the insurance company directly. I met with the insurance agent yesterday, so I am not officially enrolled until my application is processed.

No, I am not eligible for medicaid, my income is too high for that.
What hospital is none of your business.

Peruse the list here if you desire.

http://health.usnews.com/health-news/best-hospitals/slideshows/the-honor-roll-of-best-hospitals-2013-14/2




My Hospital is greater than yours.  My doctor is the famous Dr. Phil Brewere at General Hospital.  beat that.  :smirk:


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19079016 - 11/03/13 06:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I have dr. house.

Zappa has secret doctors that ordinary people don't know exist.


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    #19079820 - 11/03/13 11:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I have connections.


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