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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: qman]
    #19059573 - 10/30/13 07:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This is great and it leaves the pub in the shit'ah

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/10/29/2853991/democratic-congressman-blows-gop-obamacare-hearing/


GRIFFIN(R): You asked a question and I’m going to answer it. It’s a false choice to say it’s Obamacare or nothing. There are numerous proposals including one that I’m a co-sponsor of…
PASCRELL(D): Are you serious what you just said? Are you really serious? After what we’ve gone through and what we’ve gone through in the last three and a half years? Have you — you can sit there and say, that you had a legitimate alternative after these years? We’ve gone through 44 votes, 48 votes now, of you trying to dismantle the legislation. You call that cooperation? I don’t!


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: sweeper54] * 1
    #19059616 - 10/30/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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sweeper54 said:
This is great and it leaves the pub in the shit'ah

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/10/29/2853991/democratic-congressman-blows-gop-obamacare-hearing/


GRIFFIN(R): You asked a question and I’m going to answer it. It’s a false choice to say it’s Obamacare or nothing. There are numerous proposals including one that I’m a co-sponsor of…
PASCRELL(D): Are you serious what you just said? Are you really serious? After what we’ve gone through and what we’ve gone through in the last three and a half years? Have you — you can sit there and say, that you had a legitimate alternative after these years? We’ve gone through 44 votes, 48 votes now, of you trying to dismantle the legislation. You call that cooperation? I don’t!



It does?  How so?  The legitimate alternative is to scarp the piece of shit.  Money shot.

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Without a mechanism that encourages younger and healthier individuals to buy coverage and spread the risk and cost of insurance, programs composed of very costly applicants are not sustainable.






Guess who's the shmuck.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19062844 - 10/31/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

http://speakout-now.org/obamacare-or-corporate-care-the-writing-of-the-affordable-care-act/

"health care industry, which spent over $380 million to support the ACA"

"ACA was designed to write the for-profit health care system into law, increase corporate profits.."

This is no socialist program, it's just about profits for who wrote Obama Care, the health care corporate powers.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: qman] * 2
    #19063022 - 10/31/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Obummer sheds crocodile tears for the poor but works hard to give even more money to the richest of the rich. He is the enemy of the common man


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: qman]
    #19063804 - 10/31/13 02:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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http://speakout-now.org/obamacare-or-corporate-care-the-writing-of-the-affordable-care-act/

"health care industry, which spent over $380 million to support the ACA"

"ACA was designed to write the for-profit health care system into law, increase corporate profits.."

This is no socialist program, it's just about profits for who wrote Obama Care, the health care corporate powers.


If it is so profitable how come they are dropping millions of subscribers abd doctors are fleeing?  It is 100% socialist.  Or, if you prefer, fascist.  I really don't give a shit what that loon thinks.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19064195 - 10/31/13 03:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

O'stumble's credibility is in ruins, he makes the rounds of world capitals with his lame excuses and feeble apologies. Back at home, many scandals await him from benghazi to fast and furious. Meanwhile, the fumbled rollout is giving a farcical air to the already circuslike controversy over aca. He lurches from one scandal to another. The clown prince of the democrat party.

Will the dems running in '16 want his endorsement or will they shun it? Will he finish his term sputtering in ignominy or will he be forced to resign? Stay tuned.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #19064455 - 10/31/13 04:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Will the dems running in '16 want his endorsement or will they shun it? Will he finish his term sputtering in ignominy or will he be forced to resign? Stay tuned.




You mean like lil'bush in '08

Forced to resign over what?


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: sweeper54] * 1
    #19065962 - 10/31/13 08:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

>Forced to resign over what?

Take your pick

Benghazi
fast and furious
irs scandal
aca scandal
warrantless spying on usa citizens
spying on our allies
spying on associated press
GSA spending on orgies
Attacking libya without congressional authorization
not enforcing laws on the books
signing statements

The list goes on


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #19066784 - 10/31/13 10:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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>Forced to resign over what?

Take your pick

Benghazi
fast and furious
irs scandal
aca scandal
warrantless spying on usa citizens
spying on our allies
spying on associated press
GSA spending on orgies
Attacking libya without congressional authorization
not enforcing laws on the books
signing statements

The list goes on





Oh come on now.  Everyone knows O didn't know anything about any of those scandals.  :smirk:


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #19068679 - 11/01/13 06:55 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Stonehenge said:
>Forced to resign over what?

Take your pick

Benghazi
fast and furious
irs scandal
aca scandal
warrantless spying on usa citizens
spying on our allies
spying on associated press
GSA spending on orgies
Attacking libya without congressional authorization
not enforcing laws on the books
signing statements

The list goes on




And lil'bushies list is longer and some of the things on your list he started.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: sweeper54]
    #19068708 - 11/01/13 07:08 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

But Bush can't be forced to resign. He can't be impeached.

I used to think it would be counter-productive to have Obama gone, because that would leave Joe freaking Biden at the helm. Joe Biden! *shudders*

But the longer the SCOAMF stays in the Oval Office, the more I am convinced that as horrifying as the thought of having Joe fucking Biden as preezie might be - and it is in fact quite horrifying - it would be better than continuing with the current empty suit.



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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: Grapefruit]
    #19069731 - 11/01/13 12:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Sounds to me like America needs to take a good long look at why it's health care system is so expensive, socialised or not and whether it is privatization that has made it so expensive now and in the past.

It's funny because my reason tells me privatization ought to make it cheaper, yet that does not seem to be what has happened.



Many in the U.S. believe we had privatized healthcare which is why we got obamacare. They fail to realize the U.S. spends more per capita then any other country on healthcare so it's far from privatized. You can't reason with these people though.

Typical with government and the U.S. especially if something isn't working the statist answer is it's underfunded, never maybe we should try something else.

Even if state run healthcare is the best option it amazes me liberals in the u.s. keep comparing us to europe. Fine try that stuff on the state level but the U.S. is far to large to expect the same programs to work on that scale.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: Mycjunky] * 1
    #19070365 - 11/01/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The government has never run anything efficiently in its existence from the military to the post office to anything else. It amazes me that people think something that has never worked will somehow, magically work the next time. The level of corruption in govt would not be allowed in private industry because they are focused on making a profit so they have to be efficient.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: cez]
    #19070713 - 11/01/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I signed up today. I am paying $617 a month for a savings of $160 a month and I get free colonoscopies. Yay!


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: AWS]
    #19070740 - 11/01/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

They aren't free.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19070746 - 11/01/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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They aren't free.



He'll pay up the ass for sure.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: AWS]
    #19070758 - 11/01/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You paid 9 grand annually for health insurance before?  How do the deductibles compare?


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #19070840 - 11/01/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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>Forced to resign over what?

Take your pick

Benghazi
fast and furious
irs scandal
aca scandal
warrantless spying on usa citizens
spying on our allies
spying on associated press
GSA spending on orgies
Attacking libya without congressional authorization
not enforcing laws on the books
signing statements

The list goes on




Yes, but he kept his johnson in his pants.  That's what really matters.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #19070886 - 11/01/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The pig in chief wasn't forced to resign for that but Nixon was forced to resign for far fewer lies.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19071985 - 11/01/13 08:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

More good news for this program, why do people think the care isn't going to go down?

"Most of the top hospitals will accept from just one or two companies operating under Obama Care"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-01/top-us-hospitals-are-opting-out-obamacare

"Most top hospitals are simply opting out of Obama care"


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