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Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? * 1
    #19017420 - 10/23/13 02:14 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Or we fucked?


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: cez]
    #19017435 - 10/23/13 02:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The republicans have tried to repeal it 41+ times now, and at least one of those times it went to the supreme court where it was ruled constitutional. If one of the repeals ever makes it to Obama's desk, he's going to veto it. Obamacare is good, and it's not going any where! :smile:


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: 1ve5w4hu]
    #19017456 - 10/23/13 02:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I voted for Obama....:blush:


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: cez]
    #19018866 - 10/23/13 11:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Or we fucked?




Maybe you think you're fucked but it changes almost nothing for me.  I'll bet there hasn't been a day in the last 100 years when people all over this land haven't been announcing that we're fucked.  After awhile you just get on with your life. :nicesmile:


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: 1ve5w4hu]
    #19019378 - 10/23/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The republicans have tried to repeal it 41+ times now, and at least one of those times it went to the supreme court where it was ruled constitutional. If one of the repeals ever makes it to Obama's desk, he's going to veto it. Obamacare is good, and it's not going any where! :smile:




You forgot the 2012 elections the ACA was one of the lead issues and the Dems won all the way around. They added 7 in the House, added 2 in the Senate and POTUS.

ACA Law of they Land until the Pubs can get their heads out their asses, but by then it will be too late.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: sweeper54] * 1
    #19019958 - 10/23/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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sweeper54 said:
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1ve5w4hu said:
The republicans have tried to repeal it 41+ times now, and at least one of those times it went to the supreme court where it was ruled constitutional. If one of the repeals ever makes it to Obama's desk, he's going to veto it. Obamacare is good, and it's not going any where! :smile:




You forgot the 2012 elections the ACA was one of the lead issues and the Dems won all the way around. They added 7 in the House, added 2 in the Senate and POTUS.

ACA Law of they Land until the Pubs can get their heads out their asses, but by then it will be too late.



Your forgetting 2010 when Obamacare was one of the lead issues and the Republicans took the House back.  Now that it is revealed to be the absolute clusterfuck the Republicans said it would be we'll see what happens in 2014.

Did you sign up yet?


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: Icelander]
    #19019983 - 10/23/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Or we fucked?




Maybe you think you're fucked but it changes almost nothing for me.




I have been notified that my carrier will no longer be providing coverage for my class, true single payer as in I singly pay for my own shit.  I also just found out that not one of the companies offering coverage under Obamacare in NY has any provisions for out of network doctors except in emergencies.  Not one.  They pay no part if you don't use one of their shitty quacks.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19020513 - 10/23/13 05:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Did you sign up yet?




Nope. I have the VA and if its good enough for MA its got to be good enough for the Feds.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: sweeper54] * 2
    #19020561 - 10/23/13 05:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You have the VA?  The worst health care system in the country?:rofl2:

If you want MA health care move to MA. Did you know that the voters of MA elected Scott Walker precisely to stop Obamacare from being passed and that the Dems violated the Senate rules and perjured themselves to make it eligible for reconciliation?  Do you even know what that means?


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19020918 - 10/23/13 06:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The worst health care system in the country?




And you know this HOW?

I have dealt with the VA since '86 and found it to be very good, with zero complaints and that's in four different distircts. I don't care what you've heard or read.

Yes Zap I watched the whole process, and every asshole has an option of why the ACA is the law of the land.

Did YOU know Scott got unelected also?


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: sweeper54] * 1
    #19021001 - 10/23/13 06:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The worst health care system in the country?




And you know this HOW?

I have dealt with the VA since '86 and found it to be very good, with zero complaints and that's in four different distircts. I don't care what you've heard or read.




Lucky for you you have been healthy.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/04/AR2007030401394.html
http://veterans.house.gov/editorials/vets-deserve-better-than-vas-practice-of-rewarding-failure
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Yes Zap I watched the whole process, and every asshole has an option of why the ACA is the law of the land.

Did YOU know Scott got unelected also?



I do but Obamacare wasn't an issue by then.  They went back to being the tried and true commie morons they have been for decades.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: sweeper54] * 2
    #19021014 - 10/23/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Did you sign up yet?




Nope. I have the VA and if its good enough for MA its got to be good enough for the Feds.




Not for nothing but if you have the VA why the fuck are you babbling about what the government is cramming down everybody else's throat.  Seems to me it should be none of your business since you're already on the taxpayer dime.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19021143 - 10/23/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: cez]
    #19021225 - 10/23/13 07:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Not for nothing but if you have the VA why the fuck are you babbling about what the government is cramming down everybody else's throat.  Seems to me it should be none of your business since you're already on the taxpayer dime.




Dude, I paid for that dime and earned every penny of it.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: sweeper54]
    #19021409 - 10/23/13 07:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Not for nothing but if you have the VA why the fuck are you babbling about what the government is cramming down everybody else's throat.  Seems to me it should be none of your business since you're already on the taxpayer dime.




Dude, I paid for that dime and earned every penny of it.




That was the deal so you get it.  You didn't read me bitching about it, did you?  You get the GI bill, too.  You don't see me bitching about that, either.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19023509 - 10/24/13 03:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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Icelander said:
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cez said:
Or we fucked?




Maybe you think you're fucked but it changes almost nothing for me.




I have been notified that my carrier will no longer be providing coverage for my class, true single payer as in I singly pay for my own shit.  I also just found out that not one of the companies offering coverage under Obamacare in NY has any provisions for out of network doctors except in emergencies.  Not one.  They pay no part if you don't use one of their shitty quacks.





That doesn't effect me. It effects you. :shrug:


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: Icelander]
    #19027077 - 10/24/13 06:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, I know.  Which is why I don't give a fuck what you think.  You do realize that you are an extreme outlier, right?  You are utterly irrelevant to the discussion since you have no skin in the game.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19029170 - 10/25/13 12:26 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The only chance there is for a repeal of obamacare is if the system works out very well for the vast majority of people and there is a consequent lessening of national anxiety over the mere thought of a single-payer system, followed by installation of said system.


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19030179 - 10/25/13 09:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Yes, I know.  Which is why I don't give a fuck what you think.  You do realize that you are an extreme outlier, right?  You are utterly irrelevant to the discussion since you have no skin in the game.





Hows that, I have to purchase new insurance just like you? And if you don't give a fuck what I think why did you reply to me?

I'm not thrilled about the prospect of searching for new health care but over all in the scheme of things it's a pretty small blip on the radar.  I'm not going to go broke no matter what.  Life is pretty good generally and pretty easy compared to much of the rest of humanity.  Tomorrow there will be some more nonsense going on no matter what happens with all this.  :shrug:


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Re: Is theree any chance for the repeal of Obamacare? [Re: Icelander]
    #19031365 - 10/25/13 02:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You have no children to give a fuck about being ruined by socialist losers after you are dead.


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