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How are new helpful plants found?
    #1901723 - 09/10/03 12:20 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Note: This is not a post about consuming an unidentified plant. That is certainly a bad idea.

There must be plenty of plants and chemicals in plants that have yet to be discovered. Obivously people used to have their methods for knowing what's posionous and what's not. Whether it was to watch which plants the animals eat, or sampling a small part of a plant. Currently, it seems like it's pharmectical companies which are isolating and exploring plants. How exactly do they go about experimenting while maintaining safety?


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Re: How are new helpful plants found? [Re: Twirling]
    #1902667 - 09/10/03 05:29 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Currently, the way the pharm companies are doing it is just trying to isolate chemicals from plants, and mass produce synthetics of the isolates, that have been used as entheogens/medicines etc.. by certain cultures that have not yet been analyzed for market pharmaceutical value. There's that one "cactus" that everyone talks about periodically from here that helps with weight gain or is some sort of stimulant, currently the name escapes me .But i believe that's being investigated by Roche or Pfizer or Merck or some company.

Otherwise the other way things are done is by investigating relatives of known actives/entheogens/medicinals. There hasn't been too much discovery lately of brand new unknown plant entheogens. There is usually always some line of reasoning/investigation that leads to new discoveries now a days than say the finding and mixing of ayahuasca brews. Nothing is really done in a vaccuum anymore.


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Re: How are new helpful plants found? [Re: Twirling]
    #1902689 - 09/10/03 05:38 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

They also like to use rats to determine things like LD.50. That have really no bearing on a human, its just a nice stab in the dark.


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Re: How are new helpful plants found? [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
    #1903028 - 09/10/03 11:07 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Very interesting. That was sort of my impression. I think salvia and sceletium have potential, but it would have to be in the right hands and done with wisdom.


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Re: How are new helpful plants found? [Re: Twirling]
    #1905722 - 09/11/03 03:44 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

googlesearch:
wade davis
tim plowman
richard evans schultes
richard spruce
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a science called ethnobotany (asking the tribal shaman or the village curandera "what is this particular plant used for?" )


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Re: How are new helpful plants found? [Re: gnrm23]
    #1908901 - 09/12/03 10:22 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

well duh!


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