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Feeling trapped
    #19014436 - 10/22/13 04:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm part of the military and I live in a military institution, and I feel absolutely trapped! In the last two years my eyes were opened to the psychedelic realm, and so much good has come to my life from it. I've kicked a lot of unhealthy habits like smoking, and binge drinking, but the biggest benefit is that I've been able to use it to overcome a depression that has clouded my mind for a large portion of my life.

It is so unbelievably frustrating to be in a place that is un-accepting of drugs to the extreme, and it isn't just the staff its the student body as well. I'm constantly monitored, our rooms are inspected multiple times during the year sometimes with warning, sometimes without. There is no where to grow and there is no one who sells in my town (not soliciting).

It baffles me that I can be persecuted for something that has been such a positive force in my life. And closed-mindedness of my friends and peers is isolating. Even the ones who have tried it just do it to "get fucked up" or "go hard"

All in all, I'm glad I found this community, it's nice to know there are people like-minded somewhere in the world.


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Re: Feeling trapped [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19016804 - 10/22/13 10:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Best of luck to you.

Do they monitor your internet traffic?  They've got to be, right?

How long until you are done?

I think psychedelics can wait.  They will always be around.  Your situation makes me nervous.

Stay safe.


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Re: Feeling trapped [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19016980 - 10/22/13 11:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sorry man.  That's kinda what you signed up for though.


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Re: Feeling trapped [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #19017558 - 10/23/13 03:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

OP, you should know you're definitely NOT alone.

Take what you can from the military, IMO that would be discipline and the skills of executing plans & orders decisively, the ability to take bullshit without snapping and also staying in good shape.

Don't worry about people intolerant of psychs, and don't worry about idiots who take them just to get fucked up. They're just obstacles to transcend. Like Terence McKenna said, psychs need a certain minimum level of intelligence to interact with a human properly. If they don't find it, it's just wee, look at the pwetty lights :crazy2: and then back to beer and cigs again.

How many years do you have left? Don't be reckless with this stuff, including net surfing habits. Make a proper plan to get out and do something meaningful you like, and then execute on it. The skills and discipline from the military will serve you well in life, even if you don't see it right now. Check this for instance. The experience you get now will help you succeed in your professional life later on, regardless of your chosen field. It's quite important to have good funding for proper psychonautic research activities, like Burning Man and similar festivals, trips to Peru and Mexico and other awesome places, for incredible tripping experiences. Put in your time now, you'll reap it thousandfold later on :thumbup:

Be all that you can be, good vibes and stay safe :nyan:


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Blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.



For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it,
and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.
- Matthew 13:16


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Re: Feeling trapped [Re: Spacerific]
    #19018253 - 10/23/13 10:09 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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FishOilTheKid said:
Best of luck to you.

Do they monitor your internet traffic?  They've got to be, right?

How long until you are done?

I think psychedelics can wait.  They will always be around.  Your situation makes me nervous.

Stay safe.




I'm pretty sure they don't monitor internet traffic since I'm currently buying high speed from bell. I also usually go incognito when i'm on shroomery (not sure if that helps :S) It would be a different story if I was connected to the schools dormnet though. In terms of them monitoring behaviour, there are a lot of people at the school who smoke weed and do other shit, its usually the individuals who aren't discrete about it who  get caught (ie. telling everyone about it or blazing in their room). People are usually only caught if they find drugs or witness the individual high then drug test later.

Since I stated doing psychs more frequently I made it a rule to not talk about it to anyone at my school, and I keep my shrooms buried in a mountain of crap.

I have two years left but I've already been here for 3. They gave me a year off to deal with my depression.

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OP, you should know you're definitely NOT alone.

Take what you can from the military, IMO that would be discipline and the skills of executing plans & orders decisively, the ability to take bullshit without snapping and also staying in good shape.

:nyan:




I know I've got a good thing going here, its the reason I haven't left. There isn't any other place that can offer the kind of job and financial security I'm getting here. And since I've been here I've become a lot more resilient, and responsible. So I 100% agree with you.

Its more the philosophical aspect of it that makes my situation a little hard to digest. I don't know enough about the world and politics to know if I agree with what the military is doing. I know I don't agree with killing or war, but at what point is it necessary? And like I said before I feel uncomfortable with the closed mindedness of my peers and those above me. Anything that is against the law is automatically the devil. "All drugs are for idiot low-life skids looking to escape reality. Its doesn't matter if it helps you its wrong! It makes people go crazzzyy!!"

p.s. I definitely plan on going to burning man after I graduate and potentially the rainbow gathering next summer!


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Re: Feeling trapped [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19018991 - 10/23/13 11:50 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Anonymous said:
Its more the philosophical aspect of it that makes my situation a little hard to digest. I don't know enough about the world and politics to know if I agree with what the military is doing. I know I don't agree with killing or war, but at what point is it necessary?




It's a hard question.  The situation is impossibly complex with over 7 billion individual human minds and motivations at work in the world.  It's always a judgement call...nobody has all of the relevant information.

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I definitely plan on going to burning man after I graduate




See you there.  :thumbup:  Stay safe.


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Re: Feeling trapped [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #19019288 - 10/23/13 01:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

OP you sound like a feeling thinking individual that could contribute amazing things to society, and IMO you won't be doing any of that in the military. Especially not the US military.

The fact that they put money on the table ... just think of it as mafia money. Protection money, only there's no actual protection, people are actually getting blown up for it, and generally it's not the people that deserve it. Those drones and planes and choppers aren't made for display purposes, they're made for blowing shit up. Often with people inside. Here have a taste of what that line of work looks like. Click through and see the statistics, might be quite sobering.

In your place I'd do my 2 years, get those skills and get the fuck out of there asap, before I end up killing anyone, getting PTSD and other such crap. I don't know about the loans / paperwork part of it, but I'm pretty sure whatever you feel now will only get worse over time if you end up working for these people long term. Go do high level security / bodyguard work if you really like guns and danger, go do whatever you can and know about for non-profit organizations, logistics, I don't know, just find something better to dedicate your life to, than the fucking military.



Go to Burning Man and other gatherings and festivals, you'll meet other people like you there, and I mean A LOT of people like you, and they'll surely have countless other ideas to chime in.


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Blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.



For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it,
and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.
- Matthew 13:16


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