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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: thewall14]
#19077892 - 11/02/13 11:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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thewall14 said: Azurecens
Looks more like Cortinarius subgenus Telamonia.
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NothingsChanged
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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#19078059 - 11/03/13 12:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Any slug warfare advice? I got sand and salt serounding my beds, Beer traps, all leaves are kept at bay. They still eat my caps at night. I allways no when my first flush is close. The slugs come deep.
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maynardjameskeenan
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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: thewall14]
#19078163 - 11/03/13 12:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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thewall14 said: Azurecens?

Those are either a Cortinarius species or maybe Inocybe, either way they are not active and probably toxic.
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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thewall14 said: Azurecens
Looks more like Cortinarius subgenus Telamonia.
Oops, never mind I said anything, I didn't realize this was posted.
Edited by maynardjameskeenan (11/03/13 12:39 AM)
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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: NothingsChanged]
#19079545 - 11/03/13 09:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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randallsbook said: Any slug warfare advice? I got sand and salt serounding my beds, Beer traps, all leaves are kept at bay. They still eat my caps at night. I allways no when my first flush is close. The slugs come deep.
Physical barrier - copper. Word is they will not cross copper, but prolly needs to be a strip as opposed to a wire. Then make sure your defended area is free of mollusks and their eggs, as well as you can. I have used pieces of duct/sheet metal with some good effect. My theory is that they don't like to climb over sharp edges or galvi...
Watch that salt, you'll poison your ground.
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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: NothingsChanged]
#19079784 - 11/03/13 11:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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randallsbook said: Any slug warfare advice? I got sand and salt serounding my beds, Beer traps, all leaves are kept at bay. They still eat my caps at night. I allways no when my first flush is close. The slugs come deep.
There's a product called Sluggo you can get at any hardware/gardening store, you sprinkle it on the ground and the slugs eat it and die. Works pretty well, non-toxic to animals.
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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: tdmm]
#19080758 - 11/03/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have an old bottle of magnesium oxide based supplements I was considering trying out. It seems like it might be worth a shot since forms of iron and copper seem to work and it won't salt the earth, (right?) I was gonna grind em coarse and sprinkle a barrier and see how that worked out (since I'm a broke hippie and don't like to let stuff go to waste.) ------------------------------------------------ On another note, I was curious if some of y'all up north in WA and BC noticed a lot of leaf litter before your uber-patches started busting out this year? Down here, while everyone Oly and northward were getting flushes like mad I wasn't finding squat, and now, after they leaves started coming down in force and there's been a bit more moisture I'm seeing a lot more activity. I'm thinking a leaf layer provides an evaporation-shield and traps moisture around the substrate. It's normally around the end of Oct when I start seeing strong activity ~PDX, but I figure farther north the temps are slightly lower earlier and may have caused "fall" to start earlier. Do you guys think this might be the case? Or am I stretching?
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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: happyfunguy]
#19081210 - 11/03/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for all the input. I'll give the copper a shot. Then if all else fails purchase(ugh) some sluggo. Thanks
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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: NothingsChanged]
#19081239 - 11/03/13 04:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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My girl just had an awsome thought(rare). Carpet tack strip.
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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: NothingsChanged]
#19081267 - 11/03/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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randallsbook said: My girl just had an awsome thought(rare)
Ouch!

It won't work so I guess it is still rare.
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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: thewall14]
#19081302 - 11/03/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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not an azure at all. And you should hunt with a paper bag, plastic bags trap moisture and encourage rotting.
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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: tdmm]
#19081318 - 11/03/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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tdmm said:
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randallsbook said: Any slug warfare advice? I got sand and salt serounding my beds, Beer traps, all leaves are kept at bay. They still eat my caps at night. I allways no when my first flush is close. The slugs come deep.
There's a product called Sluggo you can get at any hardware/gardening store, you sprinkle it on the ground and the slugs eat it and die. Works pretty well, non-toxic to animals.
if you want a natural solution take filbert shells ( walnut shells or hazelnut shells work as well) Crush them up and make a barrier with them. Slugs hate sharp things and will not crawl over. works for gardens too.
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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: Shroomie Gnome]
#19081785 - 11/03/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shroomie Gnome said:
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tdmm said:
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randallsbook said: Any slug warfare advice? I got sand and salt serounding my beds, Beer traps, all leaves are kept at bay. They still eat my caps at night. I allways no when my first flush is close. The slugs come deep.
There's a product called Sluggo you can get at any hardware/gardening store, you sprinkle it on the ground and the slugs eat it and die. Works pretty well, non-toxic to animals.
if you want a natural solution take filbert shells ( walnut shells or hazelnut shells work as well) Crush them up and make a barrier with them. Slugs hate sharp things and will not crawl over. works for gardens too.
Hazelnuts and filberts are the same thing. A bird told me that cyans will munch filbert shells up pretty good.
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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: nomadbrad]
#19082412 - 11/03/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you had a choice to make a big patch at your place and you had to choose between P. cyanescens or P. allenii. What would you choose? And why?
I need some feedback!
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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: nomadbrad]
#19082486 - 11/03/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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A 50/50 split to see which mycelium dominates. My guess is P. allenii.
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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: nomadbrad]
#19082947 - 11/03/13 10:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I vote Cyanescens, but just because they are my favorite mushroom.
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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: suchen]
#19083105 - 11/03/13 10:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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suchen said: A 50/50 split to see which mycelium dominates. My guess is P. allenii.
There will be multiple species in their own patches but under the big rhododendron I'm putting a monster patch and that's what I'm having trouble deciding. I think allenii so far. I will have a pertri dish race between the two to see who wins
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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: nomadbrad]
#19083260 - 11/03/13 11:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ovoids will have the largest fruitings, and two seasons. I know it wasn't an option, but I thought I would throw it out there. Also, it seems to have more aggressive mycelium.
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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: kcrocker802]
#19083418 - 11/03/13 11:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think it might take a couple of years for ovoid mycelium to establish itself enough to fruit, although cyanescens (and I assume allenii) would fruit the very next year. I've seen it in person, and everyone I've talked to in the PNW that has outdoor ovoid beds says that they don't fruit very quickly. Some people could have a different experiences with it, but I can't speak for them.
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I talked to the people who tended the garden that I found a massive fruiting in this spring and they had laid the mulch less than 6 months before. I do not know if that means it had completely taken all the mulch over before they bought it or what. White rhizomorphic mycelium a foot deep probably 45 cubic feet of it. Only fruiting in a couple spots though, but incredible densely. 4x4 foot area yielding around 560 grams dry the first flush. Absolutely insane patch. I have spread a lot of its mycelium around. I should get some prints if they fruit later this fall or in the spring to give out to some of you all.
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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: kcrocker802]
#19084404 - 11/04/13 07:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ovoids are currently not an option yet unless I find some. I'd probably consider it depending on how healthy they look growing in this area. I don't know if they have been found in this part of the W.valley.
Kcrocker, It might be wise to find out where they got that mulch from!
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