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hr.paperstacks
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fridge incubator heating probz
#19015398 - 10/22/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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been trying a whole mess of ways to keep a fridge humid and consistent but these shite ceramic heaters keep shutting off and generally being twats. anyone have suggestions on a solid way to keep a fridge all toasty?
ps i have looked at old threads but haven't seen a lot of different variations. the aquarium heater looks sketch cause of the water and the water bed heaters also shut da fuck down after a certain time.
can anyone hook a brotha up?
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hr.paperstacks said: been trying a whole mess of ways to keep a fridge humid and consistent but these shite ceramic heaters keep shutting off and generally being twats. anyone have suggestions on a solid way to keep a fridge all toasty?
Pack it full of jars/substrates and let them do all the work.
Jars/bags/tubs/trays should colonize @ room temperature getting ambient/indirect light.
Main pinning triggers are full colonization, FAE and Evaporation off of the substrate.
Light is a secondary pinning trigger. For tropical species temperature is not a pinning factor.
P. Cubensis are a tropical species. You could colonize at 70F and fruit at 80F with great results.
Light has been proven beneficial during all stages of mycellium growth. Mushrooms like mammals have a circadian rhythm.
You want ambient/indirect light(on a 12/12 schedule preferably) for colonization and consolidation.
You want direct/intense 6500K light on a 12/12 schedule for fruiting.
Optimal temps are mid 70s throughout the whole grow, but anywhere from 65F-80F is acceptable.
Incubation is outdated/uneeded unless temps in the range stated above cannot be kept.
The inside of the jar is always a few degrees warmer than the outside because the mycellium produces heat..mycellium tends to stall at temps above 86F , and contams thrive.
Fruiting at cooler temps tends to produce denser, meatier fruits, while fruiting at higher temps will often produce hollow, less dense stems.
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As for heating up the fridge for incubating, i wouldn't do that. What i would do is just colonize everything on a shelf simply in my closet or my room, and just heat up the room and surrounding area to 70-73F with a space heater that has a built-in thermostat. I do this because my room can dip below 60F at night and stays about 65F all day and it really slows things down.
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hr.paperstacks
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Re: fridge incubator heating probz [Re: PussyFart]
#19015515 - 10/22/13 07:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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hr.paperstacks said: been trying a whole mess of ways to keep a fridge humid and consistent but these shite ceramic heaters keep shutting off and generally being twats. anyone have suggestions on a solid way to keep a fridge all toasty?
Pack it full of jars/substrates and let them do all the work.
Jars/bags/tubs/trays should colonize @ room temperature getting ambient/indirect light.
temp in the fridge is round bout 65, but no light. will the lil babies in the jars be ok?
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Yes, they should be fine honestly, they will just colonize slightly slower than normal.
The light is not a big of deal as the temp, although it does help.
If you packed that fridge with jars, the internal temp would go up at least 10 degrees, and that's on the conservative side.
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Re: fridge incubator heating probz [Re: PussyFart]
#19015762 - 10/22/13 07:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said: Yes, they should be fine honestly, they will just colonize slightly slower than normal.
The light is not a big of deal as the temp, although it does help.
from all the teks i seen it says they need to be covered during the colonization. does light speed it up?
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Lighting Requirements of Mushrooms
Some mushrooms, such as the Agaricus species commonly found in grocery stores require no light at all. However, those commonly grown by hobbyists, such as Pleurotus ostreatus (Oyster Mushrooms), Lentinus enodes (Shiitake), Psilocybe cubensis, a hallucinogenic mushroom, and Hericium erinaceus (Lion's Mane) all require light to produce abundant, normal sized fruits. Experience has taught us that the light best suited for primordia formation and the development of fruitbodies is bright light with a color temperature of 5,000 Kelvin to 7,000 Kelvin. Fortunately, this type of light is easily obtainable at your local home improvement center in the form of fluorescent fixtures. For a small terrarium as described in this chapter, a single CFL (compact fluorescent) that screws into a standard light bulb socket will work very well. These can often be found in grocery and drug stores in every neighborhood. 15 watt CFLs will do the job well, but the package will probably have a large 60 stamped on it, indicating they produce light "equivalent" to a 60 watt incandescent light bulb. They're referring to lumens of output, not the frequency. Incandescent light bulbs are the worst possible choice for growing mushrooms, since they emit a 'red' light in the 3,000 Kelvin color temperature range.
The higher the color temperature, expressed in Kelvin, the closer to the 'blue' end of the spectrum the emitted light is. The lower the color temperature the 'redder' the light is. If you have a choice of fluorescent lamps, purchase those labeled 'daylight' since these have a somewhat higher color temperature than cool white. Daylight, sometimes called 'natural daylight' fluorescent tubes generally emit light in the 6,500 Kelvin range, while cool white fluorescent emits light at around 5,000 Kelvin. If you have several terrariums stacked or otherwise near each other, you can use larger 2 to 4 tube fluorescent fixtures. These come in 48" and 96" lengths. Place the fluorescent lamps as close as you can get them to your terrariums without causing excessive heating. Species such as Shiitake and Oyster mushrooms prefer to fruit at temperatures in the upper 50's to mid 60's Fahrenheit (15C to 20C), while Psilocybe cubensis prefers to fruit at a temperature in the mid 70s to about 80 Fahrenheit (23C to 27C) Most mushroom species don't mind a slightly warmer temperature during daytime than at night, so if your grow room is a bit colder than the temperature ranges given above, a little warming from your lights during the daytime won't hurt at all, provided you don't let the air in your terrarium get too dry. For cakes, try to keep the humidity above 95%. Cased substrates are a bit more forgiving, but still try to keep your humidity above 90%. 12 hours on, 12 hours off has proved to be a great combination over a wide range of species. Of course, if you have a bright window near your terrarium, that will suffice, but direct sunlight for more than a few minutes per day should be avoided. Disregard outdated advice in old books which is constantly repeated on the internet to colonize mushroom substrates in total darkness. Experience and rigorous peer reviewed studies have proved that exposure to low level ambient indoor lighting during spawn run and substrate colonizing will speed up the process, leading to full colonization up to a few days earlier than the same substrate would if colonized in darkness. In addition, mushroom mycelium develops a day/night circadian rhythm, so exposure to light from day of inoculation sets this process in motion, leading to earlier fruiting and harvest.
Source: http://www.mushroomvideos.com/Terrarium-Tek
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Edited by PussyFart (10/22/13 08:00 PM)
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Re: fridge incubator heating probz [Re: PussyFart]
#19016869 - 10/22/13 10:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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you dont need to cover them up but light is supposed to be better for them.
i wouldnt worry about this fridge thing too much though man, it just might take your jars a week longer to fully colonize if the temps arent perfect. if you want to keep working on your hobby pick up agar work or try growing different species.
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hr.paperstacks
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yall are godsends. me and the cubes seriously appreciate it
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