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bodhisatta 
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: Stromrider]
#19013017 - 10/22/13 10:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stromrider said: Don't ask 
QFT
I thought the whole fert thing was to help the bacteria that in turn help the myc(in theory ). What the fuck sense would it make to use it in your Agar which has no bacteria because it's still on the sterile side of cultivation? It's not like your rhizos will grow better...
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anne halonium
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: bodhisatta]
#19013337 - 10/22/13 11:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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ok, lets see what rhizo your agar does then......

i have fert agar, i have rhizos' i have pics. your opinion, has been noted.
in the process , of making agar, and work time, and, considering the grains are bacteria rife. there is plenty of time for a pre break down thru bacteria. it does not have to be rotted to rancid for days, to have its desired qualities.
bottom line. lots of agars. consider fert WBR agar. it works.
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Edited by anne halonium (10/22/13 01:06 PM)
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bakenast
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im gonna try this, already have the fertilizer, sounds insteresting.. and finally got lme to use just in case... thanks everyone!
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anne halonium
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: bakenast]
#19018123 - 10/23/13 09:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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bakenast said: im gonna try this, already have the fertilizer, sounds insteresting.. and finally got lme to use just in case... thanks everyone!
your gonna love it.
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SpitballJedi
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There is absolutely no need for fertilizer in agar. At the very best, it's pointless.
There is absolutely zero evidence that ferts are beneficial to myc growth on agar. Whatever pic is posted with great growth using ferts, hundreds just like can be posted without ferts.
Just make normal agar like everyone else does and move on.
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bakenast
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im only gonna try it on a few plates,to test, worth a shot,, i got my LME finally that i was use to using. to make the rest of my plates
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bodhisatta 
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: bakenast]
#19020794 - 10/23/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here's some cobweb mold on LME with no fert.
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InTheBiggun
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: bodhisatta]
#19020889 - 10/23/13 06:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anne has left the building...so he won't be commenting, but I was going to say there was a guy who did a side by side race between plain old grain soak-water agar versus 'fert-agar. The grain soak-water handily beat the fert in the end.
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bakenast
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interesting, i never new that using fertlizer was possible with results, good idea if it works anyways,
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Stromrider
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Quote:
InTheBiggun said: Anne has left the building...so he won't be commenting
Bout time
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bakenast
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: Stromrider]
#19024051 - 10/24/13 05:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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where did he go, wasnt he a legit poster?
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Stromrider
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: bakenast]
#19024057 - 10/24/13 05:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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SpitballJedi
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: Stromrider]
#19024241 - 10/24/13 07:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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bishlap
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I use oatmeal flakes then strain out the juice, add agar, stir,pour, sterilize.
I use 1/2 pint jars not agar plates.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: bishlap]
#19024534 - 10/24/13 09:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Anne is the biggest known troll here. Second most ignored member on the whole shroomery with so few posts and only 5 months here that's quite a feat. She is always trying to come of to newbies as king-mushroom but all she has ever posted is some scrawny half limp BS.
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: bodhisatta]
#19024613 - 10/24/13 09:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I didn't know this was the talk-about-anne-thread. Everyone has a different perspective. Almost everyone in this world is under the spell of their mind, believing they see the truth when others from a different angle see a different reality. Be careful not to tunnel-vision your mind with bias in copy-catting the spin of others.
Ferts are in my agar not because I specifically put it there for the agar but because, like I mentioned above, I use the water from grain preparations as agar – the ferts are used for my grain prep. It's one matter to determine if there are any benefits, of which I've not noticed any sure ones, but another matter altogether to pretend that it hurts results. Hearsay about some dude's experiment (on a now-closed somewhat unscientific home myco forum that others often made fun of around here for this very reason) is the type of anecdote that we on Shroomery throw-out multiple times everyday. For instance, there is no knowledge of whether or not too much ferts were used creating a slight "nitrogen-burn" environment for the mycelium causing it to perform slightly slower, or any of many variable questions unanswered.
Rest assured you can experiment with ferts if you want without it ruining or negatively effecting your grow process at all. My mycelium rip thru everything with equal extreme vigor, ferts and no ferts.
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Edited by Violet (10/24/13 09:36 AM)
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bodhisatta 
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Re: agar recipe question [Re: Violet]
#19024634 - 10/24/13 09:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sure violet, but almost every fert is made by an organization that shouldn't be supported (I won't go into that) Ferts are unnecessary on your lawn let alone in mycology. Even if it did give a slight boost it's not worth the environmental hazard, support of companies like monsanto, and the cost.
It's not an about Anne thread but the OP was asking about the advice Anne had left in his thread, so it's valid to be discussed.
For the sake of helping a new grower it's really not fair to throw topics that are constantly obfuscated and that trained mycologists are having a hard time figuring out on someone who's just getting started.
There's a reason things look the way they do. If you go in a forest the world around an oak will look like an oak and grow in a place that it can be successful. Similarly most of our grows here look the same, we are all oak trees. If you and Anne want to revolutionize the hobby, and bring some maples into the forest, then you're going to need some extraordinary evidence and not just a few blurry pictures of "ship in a bottle" cultures and a few shrooms grown in cups. Casing grains is nothing new and neither is plastic. It's just a novel way to organize it.
Everyone is eagerly awaiting you and Anne's new threads. Perhaps you two will be the next Andrew Wakefield's of the mycology field.
Edited by Trusted cuItivator (10/24/13 10:15 AM)
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InTheBiggun
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Re: agar recipe question *DELETED* [Re: bodhisatta]
#19024929 - 10/24/13 10:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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SpitballJedi
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Are you two gonna fuck? or what? Jesus. Get a room.
just playin.
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InTheBiggun
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How right you are Jedi... corrected.
Was a pre-coffee post..
Edited by InTheBiggun (10/24/13 11:29 AM)
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