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Anonymous #1

Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly
    #19014799 - 10/22/13 05:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hey everyone,

For the past few months, I have been doing something that now I realize may have permanent ramifications on my eyesight.  This may seem like some troll thread because of the ridiculous nature but I assure you it is not.  Back in June, I stopped smoking weed and doing all psychedelics.  I was heavy into DMT and mescaline, tripping at least 5x a month for a number of years.  When I stopped, my head felt better in some ways, but I obviously missed it.  One day, while out in my backyard watching birds with a pair of binoculars, I (stupidly) decided to stare at the sun using the binoculars.  At first I couldn't last more than 10-15 seconds before turning away.  Afterwards I would get these intense psychedelic patterns, almost similar to DMT, without the mind fuck.  I started doing it almost every day, and gradually was staring at the sun through the binoculars for up to 2-3 minutes at a time.  I would have intense visuals for up to 10 minutes afterwards.  I stupidly did this for a few months before I started getting intense headaches during the day, on par with migranes I've had in the past.  My vision has also become extremely blurry to the point where I don't feel comfortable driving.  I stopped a few days ago and was really hoping this would subside.  I use to have 20/20 vision but now I can barely read the computer screen or a book without it being extremely blurry.  I know I have to see an optometrist but I am mortified at what I will tell him.  I am a college grad with a masters degree and work in a very competitive field.  Should I even tell him about my stupidity or just tell him about the symptoms?  I really feel like I may have fucked myself up permanently.  Has anyone ever done this before, and if so, how long did it last?  Please help :frown:


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Anonymous #2

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #1] * 8
    #19014843 - 10/22/13 05:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

STARE AT MOON WITH BINOCULARS TO FIX


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Anonymous #3

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19015128 - 10/22/13 06:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Masturbation makes you go blind. I bet that's it.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #19015171 - 10/22/13 06:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Should have known I wouldn't get any serious responses....


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Anonymous #3

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19015218 - 10/22/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Try an eye doctor.


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Anonymous #4

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19015220 - 10/22/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

did you ever use a magnifying glass to burn ants as a kid?

yeah, that's what you just did to your retinas.  over and over... for the past few months.  hate to tell ya, but it's not going to return to normal.


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Anonymous #5

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19015340 - 10/22/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Try it with a telescope next time.


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Anonymous #6

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #19015948 - 10/22/13 08:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Your eyes are changed, but mine are like that now as well from years of computer gaming and a few pop UPS that went straight into the sun and I had to look directly into to catch it. Anyways its not so bad, you'll notice when you talk to people without eye glasses or eye contacts on, that you can't make out facial expressions so you get much better at listening. It's awesome really, its like a completely different mindset.


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Anonymous #7

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #1] * 2
    #19016214 - 10/22/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Should have known I wouldn't get any serious responses....



how can you read the replies?


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Anonymous #8

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #19017089 - 10/22/13 11:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #3 said:
Try an eye doctor.


:whathesaid:


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Anonymous #9

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #8] * 1
    #19017222 - 10/23/13 12:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Go to an eye doctor, tell him you play sports (tennis, baseball, idk whatever sport you can think of that would require staring up into the sky)

May need to get glasses or contacts - I don't think you can reverse sun damage to your eyes, burnt retinas and all.  That really sucks and I'm sorry for you, but holy shit you are some kind of special retard!!


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Anonymous #10

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #9] * 2
    #19017547 - 10/23/13 03:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I know you said this wasn't a troll thread but I'm having serious doubts... I didn't even think this level of retardation was possible.

But if you're serious then I feel for you man, get a booking with your optometrist, see if there are any standard glasses that can fix the problem, if not, tell the optometrist what you did and ask his/her opinion on where to go from there. Best of lucky to you.


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Anonymous #5

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #19017549 - 10/23/13 03:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #5 said:
Try it with a telescope next time.





This was supposed to be a joke, but just in case there are others like OP out there, I feel like I should clarify.

DON'T LOOK AT THE SUN THROUGH A TELESCOPE.  YOU WILL GO BLIND.

And if you were thinking about doing it before my disclaimer, please don't have children.


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Anonymous #11

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #5] * 4
    #19017556 - 10/23/13 03:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well folks, this just goes to show, college smarts =/= intelligence.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #19017701 - 10/23/13 05:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Is this really any different than doing crazy extraction processes and smoking and inhaling chemicals to get high?


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Anonymous #12

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #1] * 3
    #19017767 - 10/23/13 06:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Is this really any different than doing crazy extraction processes and smoking and inhaling chemicals to get high?


One destroys your eyesight, the other one doesn't :shrug:


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Anonymous #5

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #12] * 7
    #19018935 - 10/23/13 11:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Is holding your hand in a fire until your skin melts off really any different than riding a unicycle?


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Anonymous #13

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19019102 - 10/23/13 12:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Should have known I wouldn't get any serious responses....






I suspect most people assume you're trolling right now.  How could this be legit?  (That's an honest question.)  We are all taught, when we're very young by our parents, and teachers:


"Don't look directly at the sun. It will hurt your eyes."



This subject comes up again and is re-discussed (with new warnings and admonishments) every single solar eclipse. 


"Don't stare directly at the  eclipse. Even if it doesn't seem bright, even if you don't feel it, it can damage your eyes."



We are all told this. Where did you grow up to miss all these warnings? Under a rock?  How about common sense? Even a few seconds staring at the sun will cause temporary disruption in your vision. That should have been a hint.






Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Is this really any different than doing crazy extraction processes and smoking and inhaling chemicals to get high?








And this is the point at which I'm convinced you're trolling. If you're not, you really need to take a look at your logical process, because it's not quite up to par. No offense.



1- Yes, yes it is different. Majorly.



2- Sure, "inhaling chemicals" probably isn't very good for you.  If by "chemicals" you mean"drugs" (as I assume due to context) then yeah... still kinda bad for you. Though how bad depends on the specific drug, and how much of it you're "inhaling."  As far as I can tell, most commonly smoked drugs are not as bad as, and not analogous with staring at the sun (through binoculars, no less.)


The closest would probably be smoking really poorly made, un-washed/cleaned straight-to-base DMT with leftover lye in it.


Or inhaling mildly acidic fumes that will burn the fuck out of your lungs over repeated periodic exposures. That's almost perfectly analogous to what you did. Smoking "pure" drugs? Not so much.




3- Did you not ever play with a magnifying glass when you were a kid? That one simple childhood experiment should have been enough to show that what you did was epically stupid.


The sun is a giant glowing ball of nuclear fire. So bright that it heats our entire planet from millions of miles away. Being directly in the line of the sun, is the difference between a cold night, and a warm day. Focus the sun's energy even a tiny bit (as via a magnifying glass) and you can actually set things on fire. Again, from millions of miles away. Most of us knew this as children.  Hell, even if you sit out in the sun long enough on a hot day, your skin "burns" and becomes painful, even without magnification.



Now, in the off chance that you're not trolling:



1- Go see a doctor.


2- If it makes you feel any better, there are people out there that practice what they call "sun gazing." In other words, they purposely stare at the sun. However, they do this starting with just a couple seconds at a time, and increasing length.... and to the best of my knowledge, no one has ever done it through binoculars.


Edited by Anonymous (10/23/13 06:58 PM)


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Anonymous #14

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #13]
    #19019190 - 10/23/13 12:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I did it as a kid (didn't know there was a name for it) despite the warnings. I got to the point I could stare at it for a minute or two without having to look away.

I had surgery on my eyes when I was really young and it left me really sensitive to light, like I couldn't even walk outside without squinting so bad I might as well have my eyes closed. So I wanted to weaken my sensitivity, and it seemed to work.

I have 20/20 vision, and see better than most people I know, including low light conditions where most people can't see anything but blackness.


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Anonymous #15

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #19024210 - 10/24/13 06:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i did this as a child for god how long... i wear glasses now and it took me until high school to realize this. probably one of the biggest regrets of my life..


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Anonymous #16

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19025035 - 10/24/13 11:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Any symptoms other than blurriness and headaches?


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Anonymous #1

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #16]
    #19027941 - 10/24/13 07:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So a little update, and thank you for the responses...

I went to the doctor, and like another poster had mentioned, I singed the protective layer around my retinas, and did extensive damage to the retinas, as well.He said the headaches will dissipate, but the eye damage is permanent :frown:

I was honest with him because I wanted him to know everything to properly treat me. He said if I continued, even a week more, I very well could have gone blind.  He also said that it is a very real possibility that in a few years I still may go blind.  :frown:
H
This has been a nightmare.  He said wearing glasses or contacts at this time could further damage my eyes, as they are incredibly sensitive now.  I honestly feel like a fucking moron.  I need to do monthly check ups with a leading doctor in the field, and he also wants me to speak to a therapist for my potential upcoming fate, as well as why I would do something so moronic. 

Thank you for all of your help guys.  Please keep me in your thoughts.


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Anonymous #11

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19028205 - 10/24/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:facepalm:

If you aren't a troll, you should probably avoid having children.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #19028274 - 10/24/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #11 said:
:facepalm:

If you aren't a troll, you should probably avoid having children.





That's pretty harsh :sad:

My wife and I have 2 children.  My oldest was the one who got me the binoculars (my wife bought them, knowing how much I enjoy watching birds and wildlife in the yard).

Please stick to positive criticism and avoid the insults.  I know what I did was stupid and I feel terrible about it.


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Anonymous #17

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19028405 - 10/24/13 09:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

A real troll would say you shoulda looked at my penis with the binoculars instead..


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Anonymous #16

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19028438 - 10/24/13 09:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



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Anonymous #1

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #16]
    #19028532 - 10/24/13 09:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #17 said:
A real troll would say you shoulda looked at my penis with the binoculars instead..



 

I only wish I was trolling.


Quote:

Anonymous #16 said:
It's also a little ironic: Erowid LSD (Acid) Vaults: Myths : Blinded From Staring At the Sun



 
What is ironic?  Are you suggesting I copied some obscure Erowid article?  Two people, on this very board, on this forum, have confirmed that they also did this, showing tht tis is more common than one may think.  I know what I did was moronic, but if you are implying I copied this from somewhere, it's just not true, no matter how much I wish it was.  :sad:


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Anonymous #9

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19030245 - 10/25/13 09:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

OP, if your dr advised against glasses/contacts as an aid in the meantime, what kind of treatment options is he planning on pursuing?

I'm honestly curious what they can medically do about this if the damage is indeed permanent and any seeing aids like glasses will do more harm than good?   

I'm sorry this happened, but god damn..........


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Anonymous #18

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #19030295 - 10/25/13 10:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Man I'm truly sorry to hear about that. 

I'm guessing those visuals you got were actually what your eyes saw as they were being damaged.


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Anonymous #19

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #18]
    #19033286 - 10/25/13 09:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i used to stare at the sun as a kid too.  for the visual effects, they are amazing, OP is right about extended staring leading to almost dmt like visuals.  i think i was ten, and i really fucked up my eyes, but not like OP.  i had glasses for years, but got lasik a few years ago and see great now, better than I ever remember.

sorry OP, that sucks man.  but i do have a hard time accepting you doing that as an adult and thru binoculars.  damn man.  just damn.


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Anonymous #20

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #19]
    #19034314 - 10/26/13 05:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Dear anon1, first off try not to worry and ruminate about this, what's done is done and is in the past. I'm sure there's some sort of lesson to be learned in there somewhere.

As for dealing with the consequences, I would just keep an eye out for studies and breakthroughs regarding retina regeneration.

Even if they have nothing right now, they might have something in 3, 6 or 16 years. Maybe some good will come of it, you'll find ways to keep eyes healthy, become knowledgeable about eyes in general, etc. Or even implants or who knows what else they invent in a decade or two from now.

Please resume your normal and safe tripping activities if you feel the need to change states. There are many wonderful cacti and shrooms and DMT sources growing here for our pleasure and benefit, please make use of them and stay safe :thumbup:


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Anonymous #21

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19034353 - 10/26/13 06:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Man I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around how someone with a master's degree from college would think it's a good idea to stare directly at the sun... through binoculars.... multiple times.. total mindfuck.

You undoubtedly caused permanent damage to your retinas, that was the "intense visuals" you were seeing.
I've heard similar reports of people who stared at the sun through a telescope or something, crazy visuals - right before they went blind.

Anyway OP, I hope the damage isn't too severe but if you were getting intense headaches from it and seeing extremely blurry now the damage is already done. Hopefully it's not too bad and you can recover from it and it doesn't actually get worse.. which it very well could, but stay positive and DONT FUCKING STARE AT THE SUN.

Anyway if I were you I would be looking for anything and everything to help restore my eyesight, and things like this http://alignlife.com/articles/corporatewellness/top_herbs_for_vision_and_eye_health


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Anonymous #22

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #21]
    #19036191 - 10/26/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Giving the benefit of the doubt and saying your not a troll. I'll give an answer because most are ass hole responses. Staring at the sun was a dumb ass move to begin with but you def need to get your eyes checked out by an dr. thats a specialists in eyes.

I wore glasses and contacts for 8 years be for I had to go the hospital because they were the only ones taking medicaid and that's how I found out I had astigmatism.


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Anonymous #14

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #22] * 1
    #19036334 - 10/26/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Saying it's a dumb ass move is no less of an asshole response than the rest of the responses in this thread.. and he did go to a doctor.. :lol:


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Anonymous #23

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #19036930 - 10/26/13 06:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #14 said:
Saying it's a dumb ass move is no less of an asshole response than the rest of the responses in this thread.. and he did go to a doctor.. :lol:



no it's not, it was a dumbass move. You have to be fucking retarded to stare at the sun through binoculars.


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Anonymous #14

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #23] * 1
    #19037067 - 10/26/13 06:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It's still no less of an assholish response than any other reply in this thread. Show me one response that is more assholish..


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Anonymous #20

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #19037081 - 10/26/13 06:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #14 said:
Saying it's a dumb ass move is no less of an asshole response than the rest of the responses in this thread.. and he did go to a doctor.. :lol:



:whathesaid: :thumbup:


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Anonymous #24

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #20]
    #19037220 - 10/26/13 07:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



Edited by Anonymous (10/26/13 07:16 PM)


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Anonymous #23

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #24]
    #19038751 - 10/26/13 11:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

HAHA I hope you go blind asshole


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Anonymous #23

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #23]
    #19038753 - 10/26/13 11:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #14 said:
It's still no less of an assholish response than any other reply in this thread. Show me one response that is more assholish..



Here's one
Quote:

Anonymous #23 said:
HAHA I hope you go blind asshole




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Anonymous #14

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #23]
    #19038818 - 10/26/13 11:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:dumbass:


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Anonymous #23

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #19038822 - 10/26/13 11:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:datass:


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Anonymous #20

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #23]
    #19039732 - 10/27/13 08:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #23 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #14 said:
It's still no less of an assholish response than any other reply in this thread. Show me one response that is more assholish..



Here's one
Quote:

Anonymous #23 said:
HAHA I hope you go blind asshole






:girlofdisapproval: :justnotright:


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Anonymous #25

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly *DELETED* [Re: Anonymous #20]
    #19042192 - 10/27/13 07:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Anonymous #20

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #25]
    #19042760 - 10/27/13 09:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Here OP, this one explains the science of happiness, and yes as another anon said, you can adapt to everything, even being paralyzed and heavy stuff like that. Takes a while but after a year or two you're like :shrug:



Same guy, this one on making decisions.



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Anonymous #26

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19043754 - 10/28/13 12:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hey everyone,

For the past few months, I have been doing something that now I realize may have permanent ramifications on my eyesight.  This may seem like some troll thread because of the ridiculous nature but I assure you it is not.  Back in June, I stopped smoking weed and doing all psychedelics.  I was heavy into DMT and mescaline, tripping at least 5x a month for a number of years.  When I stopped, my head felt better in some ways, but I obviously missed it.  One day, while out in my backyard watching birds with a pair of binoculars, I (stupidly) decided to stare at the sun using the binoculars.  At first I couldn't last more than 10-15 seconds before turning away.  Afterwards I would get these intense psychedelic patterns, almost similar to DMT, without the mind fuck.  I started doing it almost every day, and gradually was staring at the sun through the binoculars for up to 2-3 minutes at a time.  I would have intense visuals for up to 10 minutes afterwards.  I stupidly did this for a few months before I started getting intense headaches during the day, on par with migranes I've had in the past.  My vision has also become extremely blurry to the point where I don't feel comfortable driving.  I stopped a few days ago and was really hoping this would subside.  I use to have 20/20 vision but now I can barely read the computer screen or a book without it being extremely blurry.  I know I have to see an optometrist so I whistled for one and when he came near, his license plate said fresh and he had dice in the mirror. If anything I could say that this doc was rare but I thought 'Nah, forget it' - 'Yo, homes to Bel Air'! I pulled up to the house about 7 or 8 and I yelled to the doctor 'Yo homes smell ya later'. I looked at my kingdom it was blurry as hell. To sit on my throne as the Prince of Bel Air.


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Anonymous #20

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #26]
    #19044358 - 10/28/13 04:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:awetermelon:  :Awemush:


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Anonymous #16

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19052096 - 10/29/13 02:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #16 said:
It's also a little ironic: Erowid LSD (Acid) Vaults: Myths : Blinded From Staring At the Sun



 
What is ironic?  Are you suggesting I copied some obscure Erowid article?





No. It's just ironic.


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Anonymous #20

Re: Please help - I really think I fucked up my eyes permanantly [Re: Anonymous #16]
    #19053238 - 10/29/13 05:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #16 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #16 said:
It's also a little ironic: Erowid LSD (Acid) Vaults: Myths : Blinded From Staring At the Sun



 
What is ironic?  Are you suggesting I copied some obscure Erowid article?





No. It's just ironic.



It contains a lot of iron.


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