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 ShroomyJ
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 P. Semilanceata, im 99% SURE!! 
#1901399 - 09/10/03 09:40 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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They look EXACTLY like they should according to all the guides, so.. for sure I want to ask you guys if im right..
Some aren't cony but more flat and those are older right?
It's not really visible on the picture but they are striped, well striped is not the right word but you know what I mean..
the spores are black or grey (maybe purplish)
They are very slimy on the cap, andd the stem is wrappable around your finger 
The color of the pics is way to bright by the way.. they are more brownish..
Growing in my back yard 1 metre next to horse and sheepdung.
Oh and if they are... should I let em grow longer or is it better to pick them as fast as possible, and if so, how is the easiest way of drying? I thought between two papers...
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 YidakiMan
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Re: P. Semilanceata, im 99% SURE!! [Re: ShroomyJ]
#1901444 - 09/10/03 09:54 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have never studied or even seen Lib. Caps but I have a big problem with this: "the spores are black or grey (maybe purplish)"
Are they black, grey, or purplish?
A psilocybe mushroom print will be purple or purplish brown.
Do they bruise blue?
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Re: P. Semilanceata, im 99% SURE!! [Re: YidakiMan]
#1901452 - 09/10/03 09:58 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Those aren't libs, they are probably some kind of coprinus. I think you may have better luck with the actives if you leave the confines of your back yard to hunt...
DH
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canid
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Re: P. Semilanceata, im 99% SURE!! [Re: spores]
#1901455 - 09/10/03 09:59 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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those are a Coprinous species.
the fact that you are trying so hard to find them is leading you to find where they are not.
try doing a search for as many descriptions, not pictures, as you can find for semies and read them all, one at a time, paying close attention to all of the things that are specificaly mentioned. these are going to be the things that are distinctive about the species.
with these important characteristics im mind, go back and look at the pictures again so you can see exactly how the specimens pictured fit the descriptions in each respect.
it is also a good idea to learn how to identify as many common and easy to id mushrooms as you can so you have a good jumping-off-point for learning how toid mushrooms in general.
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Attn PWN hunters: If you should come across a bluing Psilocybe matching P. pellicolusa please smell it.
If you detect a scent reminiscent of Anethole (anise) please preserve a specimen or two for study and please PM me.
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falseaddiction
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Re: P. Semilanceata, im 99% SURE!! [Re: canid]
#1901459 - 09/10/03 10:01 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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ya, not semilanceata.
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Paid
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Re: P. Semilanceata, im 99% SURE!! [Re: ShroomyJ]
#1901517 - 09/10/03 10:39 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Again sorry, not liberty caps :-( keep looking though :-)
your getting warmer :-)
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ShroomyJ
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Re: P. Semilanceata, im 99% SURE!! [Re: Paid]
#1901609 - 09/10/03 11:28 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hehe again eh.. well there are no other species here, never seen one other besides ones that dont look like em even a bit, and I think there are no other psilo's in holland besides liberty's
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mjshroomer
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Re: P. Semilanceata, im 99% SURE!! [Re: ShroomyJ]
#1901627 - 09/10/03 11:37 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Coprinus. Yup as noted by sveral shroomerites above.
mj
P. semilanceata stems are a straw yellow color/
mj
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doo
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Re: P. Semilanceata, im 99% SURE!! [Re: ShroomyJ]
#1901982 - 09/10/03 01:30 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
ShroomyJ said:
Hehe again eh.. well there are no other species here, never seen one other besides ones that dont look like em even a bit, and I think there are no other psilo's in holland besides liberty's
Don't limit yourself to just the liberty caps. According to the book " A Worldwide Geographical Distribution of the Neurotropic Fungi, an Analysis and Discussion" by the 3 Shroomateers,- Guzman, Allen and Gartz , there are a few other psilocybes that have been found in Holland.
Psilocybe cyanescens - a lignicolous species, Psilocybe liniformans- a coprophilous species, and Psilocybe strictipes - which, if I'm not mistaken, has a habitat similiar to liberty caps, have all been reported from Holland. Another species, Psilocybe puberula, which I know nothing about, is also listed.
While these have been reported from your area, they may or may not be a commonly found species. Before you go out hunting for any of these, do lots of research on each species, and how to identify psilocybes. Also, try to learn about any possible look-alikes. You don't want to pick and eat the wrong shit. That could be a fatal mistake.
Good luck, and I hope you find some goodies 
doo
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pluteus
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Re: P. Semilanceata, im 99% SURE!! [Re: doo]
#1902021 - 09/10/03 01:47 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you live in Holland, why dont you just go pick some up from a shop? Last time I was in Amsterdam there were at least six species for sale. I think the law has changed but they still at least sell sclerotia (philosophers stones) if not fresh mushies as well.
ok, maybe they are a little bit pricey and maybe you are really keen on getting your shrooms from mother nature, that's cool... They sell them in London now but there's no way I'd pay ?25 for 30g of cubies...
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doo
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Re: P. Semilanceata, im 99% SURE!! [Re: pluteus]
#1902049 - 09/10/03 01:56 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
pluteus said:
If you live in Holland, why dont you just go pick some up from a shop?
..........hehehe........that sounds like a good idea, and you can probaly get you a nice chunk of Moroccan to help mellow the trip out.
Wish it was like that here in the U.S., I know where I'd be after every payday. 
doo
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canid
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Re: P. Semilanceata, im 99% SURE!! [Re: doo]
#1902252 - 09/10/03 03:12 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wish it was like that here in the U.S
it may be someday. perhaps our grandchildren will be able to enjoy a more flexible concept of and acceptable practice of living than we do.
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Attn PWN hunters: If you should come across a bluing Psilocybe matching P. pellicolusa please smell it.
If you detect a scent reminiscent of Anethole (anise) please preserve a specimen or two for study and please PM me.
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aminitaman
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Re: P. Semilanceata, im 99% SURE!! [Re: canid]
#1903245 - 09/10/03 11:54 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Definitly some type of Coprinus,they look like these mushies I get in my yard all the time,If you notice they only grow when it dews outside,they arent a very strong mushroom at all,If you notice,every mornin there will be tons of them,but right when that sun rises they all die except for those big,healthy ones that can survive the heat all day till they can wait till dark and get that big drank of dew/rain from mother nature!
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ShroomyJ
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Re: P. Semilanceata, im 99% SURE!! [Re: aminitaman]
#1904641 - 09/11/03 10:31 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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They sell dried ones here.. but a new smartshop is opening up in the city, maybe they DO sell fresh ones, they are checked by the police often so..
Dried ones are supposed to be less strong..
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